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NY Times Spoils Batman #50 in Headline (Tom King pissed)
- Thread starter ManaByte
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White Knight is a deconstruction of Batman. Joker and Harley are the ones that get the growth.
Now Batman can brood and obsess over where he went wrong, realize he was getting married for the wrong reasons, seek happiness in other ways and ultimately realize that it's okay to be happy being Batman leading to a "brighter" Dark Knight.
Ha, just kidding!
Ha, just kidding!
You know how this shit goes lol
Meanwhile, Peter Parker is poor again, so like... yeah
And this is what I get for ever daring to have hope that maybe DC were actually interested in doing something new with Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle after all these years. They should have never done this storyline at all if they had no intentions of even letting them actually get married.
Even in the off chance that this is a fakeout of a fakeout, having Selina fall for that shit is so stupid.
It's also just such a tired interpretation of the character. Particularly when he already has such strong family ties. He's a fucking parent himself after all.
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This makes sense, looking forward to reading the issue!
It's a feature, not a bug.
It's a feature, not a bug.
it's okay, crazy ex talia and/or the government can clone bruce more sons and he can adopt them
that's totally less weird than bruce having sex
that's totally less weird than bruce having sex
Eventually, yeah.
My hope was that we'd at least get to see King go through with the wedding proper and have a good year or two's worth of comics where Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle were actually married and happy for once. Ideally it would've been even better for them to get a lengthier marriage in comics and have that end up as a new norm like Damien Wayne was.
But nope, gotta stick with the Same Old Same Old.
But nope, gotta stick with the Same Old Same Old.
Lots of pearl clutching in this thread
Also more spoilers for people who didn't read Batman #5
he is also going to die in this run, you can start pre-whinng about that too
3rd time in under 10 years.
thankfully #2 wasn't drawn out too long but was still a terrible arc
I didn't expect this to last, but not even going through with it...makes me glad I am not reading the book on a regular basis.
Honestly, my advice for folks who want lasting growth and character development is to look outside the big superhero books released by Marvel and D.C.
Check out stuff like the venerable Astro City, for instance, or even Invincible (which is still a soap opera in many ways but a much better one than most cape books and did reach a definitive conclusion).
Honestly, my advice for folks who want lasting growth and character development is to look outside the big superhero books released by Marvel and D.C.
Check out stuff like the venerable Astro City, for instance, or even Invincible (which is still a soap opera in many ways but a much better one than most cape books and did reach a definitive conclusion).
Batman is pretty much an oudated and bad character and he will keep being forever considering not even something as simple as this can happen. Glad I stopped reading cape comics since Marvel ruined Spider-man.
Some stories are more about the journey than the destination.
This particular journey has been really fucking good.
I mean look whats happening soon,
straight back to his outdated classic costume,
Im really getting fed up with Comic BS, they won me back with Rebirth after the New 52 crap and now DC is going off the rails again as well.
It really makes the shitty filler books even shittier. That offbeat thing with Booster Gold sucked, that Ivy two-parter sucked. They read like distractions when they came out, and now we learn they didn't even distract us from anything.
The best issue of Batman this run was his doubledate with Superman and Lois. I was hoping this would lead into more of that, because I'm so sick of capes punching badguys. But nope!
Thank god for Image.
The best issue of Batman this run was his doubledate with Superman and Lois. I was hoping this would lead into more of that, because I'm so sick of capes punching badguys. But nope!
Thank god for Image.
I mean look whats happening soon,
straight back to his outdated classic costume,
Im really getting fed up with Comic BS, they won me back with Rebirth after the New 52 crap and now DC is going off the rails again as well.
Such a bland costume..
What's with the fucking angle on this, it looks weird. It's fucking with my brain.I mean look whats happening soon,
straight back to his outdated classic costume,
Im really getting fed up with Comic BS, they won me back with Rebirth after the New 52 crap and now DC is going off the rails again as well.
I gave up hope about Bruce and Selina after what happened with Hush. Didn't read King's run and now I don't ever want to. At least Vision was great and I'm hearing good stuff about Mister Miracle.
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They literally spoiled the issue beat by beat. Wtf?
Also I knew something would happen to stop the wedding.
Also I knew something would happen to stop the wedding.
This outcome makes sense for King's Batman, and the entire run is very much worth reading.
It's not worth reading, no. The best bits are Batman x Catwoman, and as we now know, they go nowhere. Everything else is pretty standard broody Batman punching badguys.
Mr. Miracle is, however, amazing. It'll also be over in a few issues, so you don't have a giant set to collect but maybe two trades.
I think the run has been pretty mediocre overall. I'd consider 'I am Gotham' to be very skippable, 'I am Bane' too. The Kite Man chapters in 'A War of Jokes and Riddlers' are good, but the rest is eh. The parts of the engagement run that were drawn by Clay Mann are good, but otherwise I don't think much of it. And there was one really good issue with Swamp Thing.
But I wouldn't recommend at least half of the 50 issues.
But I wouldn't recommend at least half of the 50 issues.
Indeed, but the cyclical return to the status quo can still feel exhausting after so much hype. I think both companies would be better off if they didn't mess around with the fans like this.
It would avoid creating the current sense of frustration that comes from hyping up things that will seemingly not matter.
I would probably appreciate reading all the trades of this run in order to have the full context, mind you, at some point in time...but I have little or no interest in experiencing this type of gimmick on a monthly basis. That sounds unpleasant.
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I would be pissed too. This is why I quit superhero comics completely though, you can never do anything truly interesting because after a year or two you always go back to status quo and nothing ever ends.
It's like when they ran House MD into the ground because they needed more seasons, but over decades instead of a decade.
It's like when they ran House MD into the ground because they needed more seasons, but over decades instead of a decade.
I think comic book readers of mainstream comics are divided by those who had "the moment" and those who still did not. I call the "moment" the moment you quit comics and says that you will never read comics again. My moment was the end of the Clone Saga. Once Bein Reilly's run with Dan Jurgens started and they removed Peter I was gone, not just of Spider-Man comics, but comics themselves. I only came back with Bendis Ultimate Spider-Man, Millar's Ultimate X-Men, Bendis New Avengers, Millar's Civil War and finally Ed Brubaker's Captain America. After the death of Peter Parker in the Ultimate Universe, I considered quitting comics altogether again. Then... something happened. I gave Spider-Island a chance. I did buy Brand New Day first issues but that was not enough to hold me, but then I read Spider-Island. Back to back. And I was hooked, crying and screaming YES, YES, YES THIS IS THE MOTHERFUCKING AMAZING SPIDER-MAN. And I was back to the main line. Dan Slott brought me back to the main universe and made me not give up comics again. I tracked back all the Brand New Day issues and Dan became my favorite Spider-Man writer of all time. Blame him for me sticking around.
I mean, is there a reason to be shocked? Anyone who reads comics knows that the shit doesn't last what with updating the continuity and all.
Tom King spends a year exploring what an engaged Batman/Catwoman would look like, and people say that's a failiure and "lol comics" because he didn't tie the knot. Nothing in that has been invalidated by this outcome, this makes complete sense within the comic.
The fact that they got people who don't even read comics pissed because they were somehow hyped is DC's own doing though. But even then, is anyone in this thread actually surprised or heartbroken because of this twist?
I don't think anyone was expecting Batman to stay married from now until the end of time. He was going to get divorced or rebooted sooner or later, yes.
But the fact that DC couldn't even deliver on an event they promised and hyped up for months and months in advance? Yeesh.....what the fuck? Who thought this was a good idea and why did they think it was a good idea?
I was gonna say, aren't they gonna bring back the round yellow emblem next?I mean look whats happening soon,
straight back to his outdated classic costume,
Im really getting fed up with Comic BS, they won me back with Rebirth after the New 52 crap and now DC is going off the rails again as well.
But since Doomsday Clock might as well be 6 years away I guess they have more than enough time to circle back around to that.
then why don't you get out of here and crawl back to the manga thread
Which apparently raised expectations that Tom King could get to write an equally good married couple for at least a few months. So some of the disappointment stems from his own track record too. I can't even judge whether it has all been truly invalidated or not, but it is making people lose faith.
I am not entirely surprised, but then again they want people with far more investment and bigger wallets than me to buy this. My own mildly negative outlook is not going to be as important to their bottom line as the more pessimistic reactions of some regular readers and the reduction in casual purchases right now.
I do think the fact that they didn't go through with the wedding is surprising, and reading the results for #Batman50 on Twitter suggests that a good amount of people are surprised too. One person claims they bought 100 issues as wedding favours. There are stores that bought dozens of different variant covers, at least one that bought a wedding cake to celebrate the event.
It isn't strange that people who don't even read comics were hyped, as it was positioned as a big summer event. 'Batman and Catwoman's wedding'. 'I wonder who will show up - the Justice League in tuxedos? Will some of the villains Catwoman has allied with turn up too?'. 'Oh, I wonder who the best man will be... I guess Superman? What story will he tell?'. 'This will be a really interesting change to the status quo - will they patrol together?'. 'I wonder if...'
