• Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
  • We have made minor adjustments to how the search bar works on ResetEra. You can read about the changes here.
Status
Not open for further replies.

Frozenprince

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
9,158
Chapo Trap House is totally right if people are labeling fucking George Carlin alt-right.

Political humor is dead.
 
Nov 8, 2017
957
This sums up a significant chunk of the under-40 Republican base. Many of them don't really give a shit about traditional culture war issues like climate change or gay marriage and have instead moved on to straight-up white supremacy, "cultural marxism," and closed borders.
I haven't heard his stance on closed borders, so I can't comment on that. But I've never got the "white supremacy" vibe from him. The way he talks about minority athletes and comedians, two fields he's familiar with, he praises people of all colors and backgrounds for their physical and mental abilities.

You may be right though. I only listen to his podcast when he has his conspiracy theory buddy on, or when he has a fighter I like. Other times when I've checked out the podcast, Joe seemed very out of his element and uninformed. And I'm not listening to the JRE to learn anything, that's for damn sure.
 

hephaestus

Member
Oct 28, 2017
673
I could honestly see this site calling George Carlin a alt right especially after his "rape can be funny bit"
 

Luminish

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,508
Denver


On top of the parade of racist assholes that Rogan gives a voice to on his podcast, never really telling them their wrong but simply replying with "Huh, interesting", he's constantly hanging around with them.

I'll go ahead and post a photo of him hanging out with Left activists as well:

footage-not-found.png

Rogan and Rubin are flat out alt-right in every way but outright saying they're alt right.

Harris is mostly liberal, but is also an idiot that takes the right at face value but not the left. It's like he found his identity as being part of that group without knowing what that group is actually about. Not unlike some normal fans of Rogan and Rubin.

Peterson is a transphobic liberal that found out there's a lot of easy money in the right and knows to pander to them.

That's my understanding of them anyway.
 

marrec

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
6,775
George Carlin was very anti-conservative. He was a constant critic of conservatives, Republicans, and especially the religious right. He was critical of the left when it came to political correctness or liberal paternalism, but I don't think that makes him alt-right.

Unless there's a side of George Carlin that I don't know of.

It's hard to say, many ERA posters would very likely categorize him as alt-right based the fact that many alt-right dorks would be parroting his anti-PC stuff and that's the only exposure said posters would have of Carlin.

There's a lot of labels being thrown around that are more a reaction to how the opposite group is acting rather than a thoughtful inspection of the person being labeled.

Rogan is a stoner who understands that controversy helps maintain and grow his audience. To label him as "alt-right" is to give way too much credit to his ability to actually take a substantive stance on any issue.
 

Deleted member 2533

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,325
If you are supposedly a fan of Rogan, I'm absolutely baffled by what could possibly be in this photo that is shocking news to you. He's had every single one of those people on his show and it's common knowledge they are all socially friendly as well. What's the big revelation here?

Oh, all these entertainers act like they're friends and stuff, seeing an actual photo of them all hanging with the boys is just disheartening.

I've been on the fence for a while with him, and it's just getting glaring now.
 

Pein

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,242
NYC
He's not alt-right. Stop throwing that label around so freely.

I listen to his podcast daily and he might be on the more conservative side but condemning him as alt-right is too much.
 

Bear

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,894
He's not alt-right. Stop throwing that label around so freely.

I listen to his podcast daily and he might be on the more conservative side but condemning him as alt-right is too much.
It is curious how people label everyone they don't agree with as alt-right. Absurd really, especially considering the term has only been around for a little over a year.
 

Fudgepuppy

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,270
I don't know if he agrees with them or their viewpoints, I've never seen him really do that on his podcast, but he's definitely enabling them and not giving many others a platform.

He should get Anita Sarkeesian on his show.
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
Member
Oct 24, 2017
34,395
This is great. Almost Onion level.

It might be, and I can see how it'd apply to Rogan, but the examples listed on Wikipedia are... sketchy. Most of those listed are pure alt-right, not "alt-light" whatsoever.

The fact that leftists and right wingers alike get pissed off at Rogan make me even more a fan of his podcast. He's not playin for your team and conforming to your value system
The important thing is that you find a way to feel superior to both.
The recent Ted Nugent episode was great btw. I think Ted Nugent is an idiot politically speaking and yet he proved to be one of the most interesting guests yet.
Callint Ted Nugent "an idiot politically" is quite the euphemism. He's a pedophile, a misogynistic, a racist, and a violent psychopath.
 

Spinluck

▲ Legend ▲
Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
28,499
Chicago
He seems to especially love giving airtime to anyone that has gotten shit for speaking their mind. That could mean a scientist who puts out some nutty pseudoscience book, a racist troll like Milo, or someone who got fired from their job for saying the wrong thing. A lot of these people are highly problematic, but I think it's more the fact that they're controversial that interests him than anything they're saying.

His personal beliefs seem kind of party agnostic. He constantly says negative things about Trump, but I get the sense that he's more libertarian/anarcho-capitalist than anything resembling liberal.

This is true. I don't like that some of these people are given a platform to speak their nonsense, but I never watch those episodes of his podcast or hear them out because I've heard it all before and know what their about.

A lot of the time with Rogan I can't really tell.
 

marrec

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
6,775
It is curious how people label everyone they don't agree with as alt-right. Absurd really, especially considering the term has only been around for a little over a year.

I mean, it ain't that surprising. It's a nebulous label that has lost all real meaning a lot like "hipster" did and just as quickly.
 

GustyGardens

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
946
He's got a lot of views that I don't agree with, but I don't think he's alt-right. I think he's right leaning, but *right leaning* doesn't mean alt-right. Maybe I haven't seen thing the right stuff, though? Am I missing something here?
 

TheGhost

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
28,137
Long Island
Looks like a bunch of podcasters and media people hanging out. Is that not allowed?

Joe Rogan is far from a tikki torch carrying Alt Righter. At worst he is conservative which end of the day is not the end of the world.
 

Moff

Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,787
Rogan is certainly anti progressive and he says that a lot in his podcasts, I don't think everyone with conservative views is alt-right, though. The term has expanded a lot lately, though. Originally it was coined by Richard Spencer I believe, who is a straight up Neo Nazi advocating for a white ethnostate, now I feel everyone with slightly conservative views is called alt-right.

More about my personal view of Rogan. I do watch/listen to his podcasts sometimes, as someone mentioned above, he often has great guests simply because he is huge, not because he has interesting views. I do think he should have more left progressive guests on his show (although I think he said once he invites them but they don't accept) and talking with right wing figureheads he often acts like a coward. I listened to some of the Ted Nugent podcast last week and Joe tried to adress some of Nugent's bullshit views, you could see that Joe did not agree with him but instead of arguing he backed down very fast to talk about hunting for another hour.
 

Luminish

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,508
Denver
Only one I wonder about sitting with that group if he didn't die is Charles Hitchens, except it's hard to see a genuinely likable and funny person hanging out in that group.
 

Deleted member 11173

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
609
Joe Rogan has been a pile of shit for years. The dude can't keep his ego in check anymore and has a inflated self worth.
It doesn't help that he is king of the idiots he places around him.
 

legacyzero

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
4,252
Rogan is certainly anti progressive and he says that a lot in his podcasts, I don't think everyone with conservative views is alt-right, though. The term has expanded a lot lately, though. Originally it was coined by Richard Spencer I believe, who is a straight up Neo Nazi advocating for a white ethnostate, now I feel everyone with slightly conservative views is called alt-right.

More about my personal view of Rogan. I do watch/listen to his podcasts sometimes, as someone mentioned above, he often has great guests simply because he is huge, not because he has interesting views. I do think he should have more left progressive guests on his show (although I think he said once he invites them but they don't accept) and talking with right wing figureheads he often acts like a coward. I listened to some of the Ted Nugent podcast last week and Joe tried to adress some of Nugent's bullshit views, you could see that Joe did not agree with him but instead of arguing he backed down very fast to talk about hunting for another hour.
And therein, lies my problem. Not only should we not be using the term "Alt Right", because it was created by a goddamn NAZI trying to make his views more mainstream, the left just keeps running away with the term, giving it the precedent that literal Nazis want it to have. Y'all are literally falling for that shit.

Rogan ain't some groundbreaking individual. But he's also not a neo-Nazi lmao
 

Dyle

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
29,955
He's definitely comfortable with the alt-right, given the kind of platform he gives to many of his guests. Perhaps calling him an alt-right enabler, like most conservatives, would be a better designation?
 

Sybil

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
1,642
Wow, I never considered him alt-right, but that photo there...whew
if I somehow ended up sitting with those people, I'd think I died and got thrown in some ungodly pit in Hell
 

HStallion

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
62,262
Technically yes, but not in its current form or meaning. Wikipedia says it was coined in 2008, but seems like it didn't really take on the meaning it has today until 2016. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right

The term has always meant the same thing but a lot of your typical conservatives began adopting the name just like they did Deplorable. If they want to wear a term coined by a Neo Nazi to give white nationalism a rebranding that's on them. They just legitimized the term for the mainstream in the process and did nothing to alter what it stands for.
 

Denamitea

Member
Nov 1, 2017
2,709
It's nothing new that Joe Rogan is a racist piece of shit.



Fast forward to 10:20, where he describes groups of black people as "Planet of the Apes"

And then there's this.

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/platfor...000s-family-joe-rogan-overtly-racist-comments

He is garbage and his fans are trash too.



It's interesting also in that right after in that clip where he makes that "planet of the apes" joke and seems to be shocked to have had a positive experience with black people he complains that "dozens" of people unjustly called him racist on Twitter.

Fuck Rogan, man.
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
76,219
Providence, RI
It might be, and I can see how it'd apply to Rogan, but the examples listed on Wikipedia are... sketchy. Most of those listed are pure alt-right, not "alt-light" whatsoever.

Hm... Let's check that Wiki again.

Others have described it as an offshoot of the alt-right, but the alt-lite remains distinct from the alt-right in that it claims to reject identity politics—including the white nationalism and racialism of the alt-right—though they share other key features and beliefs.


Oof. They literally just list a bunch of racist alt-right nuts. Haha.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.