Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the whole "Eugene becoming a Savior" thing never even happened in the comics if I remember correctly.
No, he was never a savior. He's also not nearly the coward he was made in the show.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the whole "Eugene becoming a Savior" thing never even happened in the comics if I remember correctly.
It was decent. Not the best but for this season I'll take it I guess. I nearly died laughing when Sith Lord Maggie appeared. So dumb.
I mean think about it. Remember how much of a wreck Rick was when his family members died? Dude didn't even see it happen. Now imagine being in Maggie's shoes, seeing it happen in a brutal fashion and then not being able to do a single thing about it.Maggie is just annoying on the show. She has moments of stupidity in the comic as well but she is a much more stable and level-headed person there and you buy her as a leader.
On the show she's just an emotional wreck and last night's conspiracy moment just reinforces that.
So Eugene's plan depended on none of the Saviors firing a single bullet on their way to the ambush point? If even one Savior had shot a walker on the way, his entire plan would have been exposed.
I mean think about it. Remember how much of a wreck Rick was when his family members died? Dude didn't even see it happen. Now imagine being in Maggie's shoes, seeing it happen in a brutal fashion and then not being able to do a single thing about it.
Is Maggie still Pregnant? Like it legit feels like they just "dropped" that whole aspect and forgot about it.
Jesus is always there when you need him.
Nah, that was definitely realI read a theory on another board that the entire Godfather scene was Negan dreaming because it hard cut from that to Negan waking up....anyone buying that?
I don't, doesn't make sense for one and does he even know who Jesus is? Why would he be in the dream?
The funniest part of the Maggie gang was the dark lighting they had them in to make them seem extra sinister lol
Pretty sure that was Maggie's. Judith is a toddler these days.I skipped out on most of this season, did Maggie have her baby yet? Is that the baby Enid had or was that Judith?
Literally the only way it makes sense for Jesus to be there is to deliver this info to Rick. Any agreement at all totally betrays the character they've built for him, pretty much since his introduction.I think you are all reading too much into the Maggie scene. I don't feel like they mean to be actively hostile towards rick, I think they just want to kill Negan and show Rick he was wrong. Also, just because Jesus is there that doesn't mean he will agree to maggie's plan. For all we know, he will immediately walk out of that room and head straight for Rick to tell him what they are planning.
In the comics Jesus is kind of a right hand man to Rick at this point, perhaps this could be how they move in that direction with his character?
Did she name it?Pretty sure that was Maggie's. Judith is a toddler these days.
Pretty sure that was Maggie's. Judith is a toddler these days.
That's the baby Rick found at the savior outpost. Maggie is still pregnant.I skipped out on most of this season, did Maggie have her baby yet? Is that the baby Enid had or was that Judith?
Well that's explains the melt down better at the end. I figured 2 years went by.Maggie has not had her baby. Only a few weeks have passed since Glen's death in the shows timeline. The baby in that scene was "Gracie", the baby that rick gave to Aaron after he killed the father at one of the savior's outposts.
Why would Jesus do a 180 in the meeting in the last scene? I skipped the last two episodes please fill me in.
The episode was just frustrating for many reasons.
1. Negan fake death
2. Maggie splinter
3. "All Out War", is a tiny battle
4. Oceanside such an afterthought
5. No one dies for sucha build up.
I mean seriously. The same freaking cast is back next year. Some of the known actors should have taken a dip in this war but now we have to once again deal with the cry baby priest, the wuss Eugine, Rosita the angry tough girl and the indecisive Tara just to name a few.
I am so annoyed that the girl with the neck tattoo that ratted out Two-Face got to live.
Im supposed to buy that a bunch of those evil people are suddenly working for the greater good? I dont recall her doing anything worth sympathy
The show seems to be notorious for build up which amounts to nothing.LOL it makes no sense. She ran "without looking back" (according to her) just to tell Negan that Dwight was the traitor, that's dedication right there. Now all of a sudden she surrenders and becomes a "good-guy", yeah whatever.
The most ridiculous thing to me was Rick killing nameless Saviors left and right only to suddenly grow a conscience when it came to the one person who deserved death the most. I feel like if he had any respect for Maggie he would've left Negan's fate in her hands rather than force his decision on her. Like just don't separate the pregnant lady from her target it's not that hard.
LOL it makes no sense. She ran "without looking back" (according to her) just to tell Negan that Dwight was the traitor, that's dedication right there. Now all of a sudden she surrenders and becomes a "good-guy", yeah whatever.
TVLINE | Am I right in thinking that Rick/Michonne vs. Maggie/Daryl will be a driving force going into Season 9?
Gimple | What Maggie has said to Daryl and Jesus was, "The Hilltop is going to flourish… I'm going to lead this place and make it work. But after that, I have this little thing on my to-do list, and it has to do with Negan." That's the main thing. It isn't like, "I wanna get Rick!" or something like that, it's about Negan.
TVLINE | Really? Because it seemed pretty threatening to Rick and Michonne to me.
Gimple | Make no mistake, no one is getting in front of Maggie to stop her. That's where there is danger and potential conflict.
TVLINE | Tell me about Jesus' reaction to Maggie's plan to show Rick and Michonne how wrong they are to keep Negan alive. Jesus seemed cool with it. But he's Mr. Live-and-Let-Live…
Gimple | Well, he's not Morgan. I don't think he rushes to kill anyone at all. If someone is surrendering to him, he won't do it. But he has Maggie's back, and this is Negan we're talking about. That's sort of a different thing. Would [killing Negan] be Jesus' first choice? I don't know. But he does support Maggie. And [in his mind, the question would be,] is this about killing an innocent, or is this about what Maggie sees as justice or even neutralizing a danger? It's complicated.
TVLINE | Is it safe to assume that some kind of agreement has been reached for Lauren Cohan to continue on as Maggie?
Gimple | We're talking about that, and we will be telling peeps what's up with all that soon. But obviously, we're going to do something. Otherwise, that scene would be tricky business.
This dude really had no clue what he was doing IMO. There's a reason so many people interpreted it as a threat to Rick and Michone, lol.. nice work Gimple.
Negan should have died. In no scenario is him living acceptable. Why make a change from the comic - Carl - and not also kill off Negan?
This show has hit Dexter Season 8 levels of stupid.
You would expect there to be at least one casualty in a story arc titled "All Out War."
I mean seriously. The same freaking cast is back next year. Some of the known actors should have taken a dip in this war but now we have to once again deal with the cry baby priest, the wuss Eugine, Rosita the angry tough girl and the indecisive Tara just to name a few.