The Wolves? I don't remember there being anything special about them other than they wanted to kill everything. They're long gone.Did we ever find out what was up with the people with weird symbols on their faces? I forget.
The Wolves? I don't remember there being anything special about them other than they wanted to kill everything. They're long gone.Did we ever find out what was up with the people with weird symbols on their faces? I forget.
Ouch. I feel like this could soon become an Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. situation where the ratings and views are starting to get in the cancellation zone....
The Wolves? I don't remember there being anything special about them other than they wanted to kill everything. They're long gone.
How is this series going? I managed to drop out just after Negan turned up. Has it got any better?
They've already said that it won't be.
No one knows what to expect really, but in the comicthe story picks up years later and all the communities are thriving, etc. when a new threat emerges in the form of the nomadic Whisperers - a group of people who, in addition to eschewing possessions and names, live in the wild and wear zombie skins. They freely walk around with the zombies and have a gigantic herd they can manipulate. Carl and Lydia (the daughter of the Whisperers' female leader Alpha) fall in love, prompting Rick to go into Whisperer territory to bring him back, which causes Alpha (who has snuck into Alexandria as a spy) to kill a bunch of Rick's friends in retaliation for crossing their border. Rick gets captured and once Alpha returns to the Whisperer camp, has a talk with Alpha where she disses his ideology and threatens him with her herd. As Rick and Carl are leaving, Lydia confesses that she isn't happy living with the Whisperers (they're all about survival of the fittest and shit) and wants to know if she can go with them - an angry Alpha allows it. Alpha says that if they cross their border again, the Whisperers will send the herd toward their communities. On the way back, Rick and Carl see all the people Alpha killed earlier, including Rosita and Ezekiel, and Rick vows revenge against the Whisperers.
Meanwhile, Negan is sort of reformed after having spent years in prison, but some idiot dude lets him out of the prison cell in the hopes that Negan will join forces with the Whisperers to defeat Rick because Rick killed his dad or something. Negan is like "okay fine". The guy takes Negan to the general area where the Whisperers are, but Negan kills him before he walks into the Whisperer camp. The Whisperers accept Negan because he's tough, but Negan doesn't agree with their barbaric way of life. Still, he hits it off with Alpha and just when you think they're setting up a romance between those two, Negan beheads Alpha. Negan returns to Rick with Alpha's head in a "look at what I did you can trust me now" kind of way.
There is a big battle between the Whisperers and Rick's people, which ends in the Whisperers unleashing the large herd and fleeing. Andrea (who is basically Rick's wife), Eugene, and some others lead the herd off a cliff. During this, Andrea gets bitten while saving Eugene and has an extended farewell (similar to Carl in the show) before dying. Rick and everyone else is sad.
That's the main storyline, but there are several smaller ones like the Saviors (lead by a woman) trying to take over again, Maggie becoming a tougher leader than Rick (she executes Gregory and beats the shit out of Rick for being weak), and Eugene communicating with a mysterious woman over the radio...
It's been the #1 show on cable for like 8 years, and the comics are still going strong, so a very long time.
Thanks for the spoilers. That will actually get me to watch every episode again.
But, after all that I want to see something different besides Alexandria and Hilltop. I'm f'n tired of it. Tell me about the helicopters next. What and who are they.
Is there going to be a purpose? Finding a cure? I want something different?
I miss the plot of everyone heading to DC to find a cure. Make this a reality or something similar to this.
The comic just introduced the Commonwealth, a community of 50K people.
But, after all that I want to see something different besides Alexandria and Hilltop. I'm f'n tired of it. Tell me about the helicopters next. What and who are they.
That isn't from the comic, but it might have something to do with what minus_me is talking about. Same with the old woman and her two female bodyguards we saw earlier in the season.
Robert Kirkman said that will never happen.
Makes sense from a writers perspective to churn out more comic books. Boring, to me, as a viewer watching the show. Hmmm maybe I will be done with the show
Yeah, no. It's still the #1 rated show on cable, and the only cable program in the overall top 10. It's been dipping, but it's not anywhere near the 'cancellation zone.' It's still a monstrous ad vehicle.
The show is being written and produced to be made on the cheap, do the least work for maximum profit with no care for the story or characters. Glad the finale had weak viewer numbers. The show is just a hack job run by greedy suits and the producers revealing in the money maker with their easy slice. It's all one big circle jerk with marketing BS.
i think maggie
will be cover the story of Sherry from the comic.
is a easy way to get rid of the actress if she isn't renew her contract
I'd despise that almost as much as the Godfather scene from this finale, as it would rob the show of one of the strongest scenes in the comic.
After Negan is freed and banished as his 'reward' for his role in the Whisperer War, Maggie tracks him down to a farm house and is prepared to execute him. There he apologizes for all the wrong he'd done. He remembers Glenn's name and his horrified that Maggie's only real recollection of Glenn is his dying moment. And when he begs her to kill him, to end it all...she walks away, leaving him broken and alone with the horrors he committed.
Her character's been fucked up ever since she got to the hilltop back in S7.I fear they're gunna fuck up Maggie's character, especially if she ends up leaving the show.
I don't mind it, is not a show or comic that I follow so sacredlyShoot didn't realize I could spoil comic readers at this point. It's issue 174: A Solitary Life.
I just wish they stopped milking this shit and started barreling onward to a series finale already.
Now that the junkyard group is dead and Jadis (I mean Ann) moved out of there and Morgan left, I bet we'll never see the junkyard or the helipad or their related helicopter ever againThat scene with Maggie, Jesus and Daryl is gonna lead to some goddamn nonsense. But what else is new, right? smh
The overarching story line should be moving outside of their little worlds, and shifting all momentum to some big picture stuff, which i'd like to think those helicopter sightings (and maybe those women with the van) represent.
I just wish they stopped milking this shit and started barreling onward to a series finale already.
They aren't milking anything - The Walking Dead is designed, as a franchise, to have an open ended narrative.
Of course they're milking it. You can probably expect another 4-5 seasons of bare-bones development (while adding even more characters), with moronic decisions designed to prolong the (our) suffering.
Of course they're milking it. You can probably expect another 4-5 seasons of bare-bones development (while adding even more characters), with moronic decisions designed to prolong the (our) suffering.
I'd despise that almost as much as the Godfather scene from this finale, as it would rob the show of one of the strongest scenes in the comic.
After Negan is freed and banished as his 'reward' for his role in the Whisperer War, Maggie tracks him down to a farm house and is prepared to execute him. There he apologizes for all the wrong he'd done. He remembers Glenn's name and his horrified that Maggie's only real recollection of Glenn is his dying moment. And when he begs her to kill him, to end it all...she walks away, leaving him broken and alone with the horrors he committed.
Ya definitely not next season. They won't cover 47 issues in 1 season.I think they could still get to this point... probably wouldn't be next season knowing them though
I mean the cure is obviously a societal one and not a medical one. You already see that the walkers aren't really a threat if you have a peaceful society, as you then will generally know when people die and to properly take care of them so the don't become a threat. Human violence primarily creates more walkers that you can't account for. Sure there will be the occasional sudden death you don't know about, but generally that isn't going to collapse your entire community.
Then blow them all away then!
I DO NOT WANT to see another f'n random bite on a character(Carl). It's f'n stupid.
So you want purely a post apocalyptic drama and not a zombie apocalypse drama?
I'm tired of the stupid random bites and the tribe vs tribe war
They should know how to annihilate all the zombies by now
Shit is getting old watching it on tv
TBH I'm not sure how much of the comics will be in play now after this season took a steaming dump on it with Carl's death and how they treated the characters throughout. For instance, there is no Maggie revolt behind the scenes, just some bitter acceptance that Glenn would prefer it this way.
However, here's what the landscape is in comics right after All Out War and what may happen (not including impossible things due to this season and others):
Things are hazy at the end as I can't find those issues
- There's a 2 year jump. The communities are working together, though the Saviors keep to themselves mostly other than Dwight. Sherry and a few seek to no longer be a part of things and go their own way and rebel.
- Gregory attempts to poison Maggie while plotting with Hilltoppers who were pissed at an incident between Carl, Sofia, and their violent kids. Enid could be a stand in possibly. Jesus saves her by witnessing the act. Maggie executes Gregory through hanging, breaking Rick's no killing rule.
- A new group comes along. Some initial mistrust happens, particularly in finding Negan in a jail cell. Everything works out smoothly though. Introduces a solid lgbt couple.
- Whisperers target the group when Dante (the good Savior who pleaded for Rick to give some Saviors a chance) and others come upon their territory. They are a group that behaves in a primal fashion with an Alpha and Beta. They wear walker skin suits so they can move among and weaponize herds, whispering to talk safely hence the name.
- A young whisperer named Lydia is captured who doesn't want to return to be raped by the others all the time and live in that way. She became a lover for Carl, but this may end up going into Enid's court if they attempt this storyline still.
- To keep people off their land, Alpha infiltrates a huge fair the community is throwing and kills a large number to spike their heads on the territory line. Ezekial and a pregnant Rosita (involved with Eugene but pregnant with Siddiq's kid) are among the several victims.
- A man pissed at Rick sets Negan loose. Negan kills the man and seemingly joins the Whisperers to the kill Alpha and return to Rick with her head. Negan is allowed out under Dwights command and supervision. Maggie doesn't know of this as shes running Hilltop. This kicks off the war proper with Beta leading the assault.
- Gabriel dies by Beta. Hilltop is burned down. Lucille is "killed" in a fight between Beta and Negan.
- Michonne, Dwight, and others disguise themselves as Whisperers to get behind the "lines" and kill them and redirect the massive herd of thousands.
- The war "ends" with only Beta and a couple others surviving and the massive herd bearing down on Alexandria. Sherry is plotting with sympathetic Saviors to rebel once Rick and co. get through this, and the new Kingdom leadership is also plotting agaist the status quo.
I left off much of what occurs after the next conflict as they have enough material likely for a season with it.
They've already said that it won't be.
No one knows what to expect really, but in the comicthe story picks up years later and all the communities are thriving, etc. when a new threat emerges in the form of the nomadic Whisperers - a group of people who, in addition to eschewing possessions and names, live in the wild and wear zombie skins. They freely walk around with the zombies and have a gigantic herd they can manipulate. Carl and Lydia (the daughter of the Whisperers' female leader Alpha) fall in love, prompting Rick to go into Whisperer territory to bring him back, which causes Alpha (who has snuck into Alexandria as a spy) to kill a bunch of Rick's friends in retaliation for crossing their border. Rick gets captured and once Alpha returns to the Whisperer camp, has a talk with Alpha where she disses his ideology and threatens him with her herd. As Rick and Carl are leaving, Lydia confesses that she isn't happy living with the Whisperers (they're all about survival of the fittest and shit) and wants to know if she can go with them - an angry Alpha allows it. Alpha says that if they cross their border again, the Whisperers will send the herd toward their communities. On the way back, Rick and Carl see all the people Alpha killed earlier, including Rosita and Ezekiel, and Rick vows revenge against the Whisperers.
Meanwhile, Negan is sort of reformed after having spent years in prison, but some idiot dude lets him out of the prison cell in the hopes that Negan will join forces with the Whisperers to defeat Rick because Rick killed his dad or something. Negan is like "okay fine". The guy takes Negan to the general area where the Whisperers are, but Negan kills him before he walks into the Whisperer camp. The Whisperers accept Negan because he's tough, but Negan doesn't agree with their barbaric way of life. Still, he hits it off with Alpha and just when you think they're setting up a romance between those two, Negan beheads Alpha. Negan returns to Rick with Alpha's head in a "look at what I did you can trust me now" kind of way.
There is a big battle between the Whisperers and Rick's people, which ends in the Whisperers unleashing the large herd and fleeing. Andrea (who is basically Rick's wife), Eugene, and some others lead the herd off a cliff. During this, Andrea gets bitten while saving Eugene and has an extended farewell (similar to Carl in the show) before dying. Rick and everyone else is sad.
That's the main storyline, but there are several smaller ones like the Saviors (lead by a woman) trying to take over again, Maggie becoming a tougher leader than Rick (she executes Gregory and beats the shit out of Rick for being weak), and Eugene communicating with a mysterious woman over the radio...
It's been the #1 show on cable for like 8 years, and the comics are still going strong, so a very long time.
I've seen you say this kind of thing a few times and it's just not true.
The comic is better than the show. Miles better. The show tells the same stories but worse, especially the past 2-3 years.
I do think the show would be much improved by Gimple responding to viewers' mail after the credits.I hold both the comic and show in the same esteem - sometimes one is better than the other but most of the time they're on equal footing.