“Please arrive 15 minutes before your shift starts”

[Liquid Plejades]

Title should be self explanatory. Some colleagues at work were discussing this matter and how if you're paid hourly then you have no obligation to show up 15 minutes before your shift, and one of them said even if you're salary and your contract says "9 to 5" then your boss can't ask you to show up at 8:45. I personally do show up earlier as i don't like rushing things, although my boss doesn't care as long as I'm not late for my start time, but totally get why people are saying this. Those 15+ minutes add up to hundreds of dollars in wages through the year if someone is being asked to come early to prep for their shift everyday or do whatever else before.

Thoughts?

 

[Smokeymicpot]

Only if I get to clock in.

 

[Walter White Walker]

I show up about 5 minutes before any appointment/work. I'm not showing up 15 minutes early unless you're paying me for that time.

 

[Freezasaurus]

If you're gonna start paying as soon as I get there, sure. Otherwise fuck off. These fucks seem to think they're also entitled to time they're not paying you for.

 

[WascallyWabbit]

On a personal level I get why some would like to do that
As a requirement? I hate it
They should have to pay you if you need to prep to get started before your day

 

[Icebergslim]

You should honestly be doing that anyway

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Pay me 15 minutes early then?

 

[onadesertedisland]

The time clock should begin when you leave the house. And end when you arrive home.

 

[Ascenion]

Pay me or fuck off.

 

[Shahed]

Depends on how you look at it.

If it's a case of please target getting here 15 mins before in case something happens that could make you late, then fine. It's just for leeway.

If it's an expectation to deal with things at work beforehand? Nah

 

[andymcc]

if you're an hourly employee and do this every day-- that is an hour and fifteen minutes a week of wages being stolen from you.

 

[Friskykillface]

I usually show up with 5 minutes to spare
It was easier at my retail hell job since I walked there
I never clock in early though unless they pay me

 

[shadow2810]

"please arrive x minutes before ..." is the dumbest thing ever, just give people earlier time then

 

[QuigleyMcShine]

If your shift starts at 9 but your boss wants you there 15 minutes before your shift then your shift actually starts at 8:45 and you should be paid for that.

 

[fracas]

i work a salaried job with a 35-minute commute each way for four 10-hour days.

I already wake up at 6 am and get home shortly before 6 p.m. - I'm showing up as my day starts and not a second earlier lmao. Hard pass at giving away my limited time.

 

[Rag]

My old shop foreman would get mad at our new hires if they weren't in the shop 'at their station and ready to work' within five minutes of the day starting. I treat my new crew like adults. We all know what we need to be working on and we all know when to be here. It's not worth the mental energy to worry about when my people get here if they are getting their work done.

 

[blacklotus]

Nope. Work hours - arriving and leaving - are sacred. That being said, when I'm asked to do some more hours because there's a real necessity and I can, I always do. Same way when I need something my employer usually comes through.

 

[zombiejames]

Only if I get to clock in.

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The correct answer.

 

[The Albatross]

In Massachusetts you have to be paid for this time.

 

[blacklotus]

You should honestly be doing that anyway

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You should be doing what?

 

[Shadybiz]

I have always been the type to do that anyway, but that's just to help make sure I'm not late due to traffic or something.

But, I'm not working during those 15 minutes, not for free, anyway. I'm just...there.

 

[Strike]

Only if I get to clock in.

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[skillzilla81]

Not unless you're paying me for that time. That's ~5 hours a month you're not paying me for.

 

[Serpico99]

Hated that shit in the Army. Show up 15min prior to nothing, because the thing doesn't start for another 30min.

 

[PinkSpider]

They tried this at our former place once. Luckily I'd moved from ops and rolled in 5 minutes late as a matter of principle (Often working at home till late at night). Luckily I hopefully have the skills such rolls are long gone and from my view if you act like that as a business people are going to give their minimum effort.

 

[Kyuuji]

"lmao"

 

[grand]

They can definitely expect that from you to facilitate shift changeover or to ensure you are ready at station. But obviously if you are hourly, they have to be paying you starting at clock in/when you arrive on site.

 

[Beefsquid]

If you are not allowed to clock in until your shift start absolutely the fuck not. That's a lot of wages being stolen if you're forced to show up for 15 unpaid minutes each day.

 

[andymcc]

You should honestly be doing that anyway

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i should not get paid for time i'm dedicating to work?

 

[Masterspeed]

"I got here 15 minutes early, I was just on the loo"

works every time

 

[AvianAviator]

Arriving a little early to your shift is a good idea so you can switch with the person before you.

15 minutes is a little long for that, especially if you actually start working in those 15 minutes (unless you get to clock in during that time)

 

[Extra Sauce]

You should honestly be doing that anyway

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time is the more precious resource humans have. giving it away for free is wild.

 

[Mesoian]

Then you should get to clock in at the start of those 15 minutes.

Full stop.

 

[Kaiser Swayze]

As long as you get to clock in and are paid, sure. Some jobs require a little bit of time for a shift handoff.

 

[mhayes86]

Only if the employee gets paid for showing up early to their shift. At my hourly jobs (local grocery store in my hometown and then Target), it was suggested to show up about 15 minutes early, but I think it was mostly a "safety net" to make sure you were at work on time. You couldn't clock in until 5 minutes prior to your shift start, and at least at Target, you were locked out of clocking in without a manager if you showed up I think 10 minutes late.

 

[Haloid1177]

I would not react well to being told that, but I do it on my own accord usually anyway.

 

[BWoog]

You should honestly be doing that anyway

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Fuck this.

 

[smart patrol]

lol that sounds pretty toxic. "hey just show up 1/4 hour early with no compensation"

 

[Kuga]

Hourly? lol no, unless I'm allowed to record those 15 minutes as work time. And even then that situation better be the exception rather than the rule.

 

[wenis]

I would clock in for the 15 minutes then and leave 15 minutes early. They can fire me if they want.

 

[astro]

Na.

I make sure I am prepared and give myself the time I need. If I personally need 15 minutes to get myself comfortable for a shift, I will give myself that. If I need 5, that's what will happen.

It should not be dictated unless it is paid.

 

[Nude_Tayne]

Sure!

I get to leave 15 minutes early right?

 

[Masterz1337]

Don't be late to clock in and it won't be an issue.

Personally I show up anywhere 5 minutes early to 5 minutes late, and I always end up staying a little late too so I don't get any complaints at my job.

 

[EntelechyFuff]

The time clock should begin when you leave the house. And end when you arrive home.

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I've always felt this way.

 

[Kill3r7]

Sure if they let you punch in the moment you arrive. Otherwise no thanks.

 

[gozu]

Please arrive 7 and a half hours* before your 30 minute shift at 16:30 starts. Thank you!


* you may or may not have to work during those 7h30

 

[Layell]

It's a failure of the job and scheduling.

If your job opens and they schedule you to start at 9, you can't feasibly be ready for customers right when you clock in.

I am not a big fan of my job having me log in, sign into a VPN with my twofactor authentication, and two other apps before I can "start". But I take it back by chilling between clients.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

I may arrive 15 minutes early, but I'm not walking through those doors before time

 

[Ouroboros]

You should honestly be doing that anyway

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Not sure if you are meaning "you should show up early but not work until your specified time? I would agree. I never like to come in right at 8am as I feel rushed. But you bet if I'm here at 7:45am, I'm getting a cup of coffee and browsing era until 8am strikes and I officially clock in.

 

[julia crawford]

i take thirty minutes every morning after starting work just to start being productive, very glad to have a job that allows it

but i will sometimes take a little of sunday night just to take a look at what i'll be looking into the next day, but that's never been asked or expected of me, it's just a habit of mine

damn last post of the page, always sad when it happens