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2017-18 Season TV Cancellations/Pilots: E Corp does hostile takeover. Shuts down fsociety
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I can't think of anything that Fuller's working on now that he's gone from Star Trek, American Gods, and The Vampire Chronicles.
He beat your estimate by a good five months!
^ Haha. The cycle is moving a lot faster than I expected.
There can only be laughter in response.
Yeah, it's getting really hard to care about new projects he announces.
Came to make this joke but you beat me to it lol. No shows are good enough for Fuller it seems. Maybe he wanted $20 million per episode. ;)
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Seems like a lot of this happened in February (article about the cost overruns on American Gods, steps down from Amazing Stories & The Vampire Chronicles)
I love Fuller, but at a certain point you just have to accept that the problem is probably him and not the network suits.
That's my concern. If it does happen, it'll be tough to get super excited about something that could fall apart a month or two in. Which is sad since Hannibal's an all-timer for me.
Frankly, more Hannibal seems like a Monkey's Paw wish at this point. Series ended well, they should let it lie.
It's a limited engagement for only a couple months.
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Well that Fuller news is not too surprising. Christoper Rice tweeted out the first page of the script a while back and Fuller's name was nowhere to be seen so I assumed then that he had left.
No network was attached to it, and it was always a Christopher Rice led joint. People just went hard with the Fuller connection because he's the bigger name. So it's more likely Rice/Fuller drama (if there was any drama) than network/Fuller drama.
Well damn, nevermind! Thanks for the corrections. That's good news.
I know for a fact that on at least one of these it was absolutely executives interfering in his creative vision, but I can't imagine it was that for all four shows he has left in the last year or so. So it's definitely starting to seem like he just doesn't play well/refuses to compromise with Executives, which will make it increasingly tough for him to get these kinds of positions.
I had no idea she was Metcalf's daughter until I looked it up. I still remember thinking how freaky it was they found a younger lookalike. lol
Also what the heck is Genius and why are they subjecting kids to it??
Good Girls renewed for season 2 by NBC
NBC has also picked up 2 more series (in addition to New Amsterdam)
The Village
The Enemy Within
The Village sounds like something they'll pair with This is Us.
NBC has also picked up 2 more series (in addition to New Amsterdam)
The Village
The Enemy Within
The Village sounds like something they'll pair with This is Us.
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lol how many "former genius locked up in prison gets released to solve case" shows are there now?
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Vanity Fair: Is Peak TV Slowly Killing TV Critics?
It's a pretty good look into what it takes to be a critic in the age of Peak TV.
It's a pretty good look into what it takes to be a critic in the age of Peak TV.
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Yeah it's an odd example but I agree with the point. There is a better example in the article where a critic discovers how good Please Like Me (and it is so good) is after the first season has aired, but it was a less convenient pull quote to cite here.
I really wanted to get into this show but just couldn't past after a few episodes
Damn, Alan still beating this drum and I'm glad he is. I think this article is spot on with the current problem of just so much content out there. A lot of people will dimiss the critics who move on quick, but as they note there is far too much to even begin to think about sitting through. Its a big reason why I'll just jump off a show, even if it's mid season, if it's not grabbing me.
I mean, part of this is recap reviews being the standard form of TV reviewing. It's not like there are fewer movies being made and somehow film critics can survive going to like 5 different festivals each year to review 30+ films in a month (in addition to the shitty blockbusters that come out every week that they have to review as well).
The CW
Renewed:
Supernatural
Arrow
The 100
The Flash
Jane the Virgin
DC's Legends of Tomorrow
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend
Supergirl
Riverdale
Black Lightning
Dynasty
Canceled:
The Originals
Life Sentence
Valor
TBD:
iZombie
NBC
Renewed:
This is Us
Will & Grace
The Good Place
Superstore
Good Girls
Canceled:
Taken
TBD:
Law & Order: SVU
Law & Order: True Crime
Chicago Fire
Chicago P.D.
Chicago Med
The Blacklist
Blindspot
Timeless
The Brave
A.P. Bio
Rise
Champions
Good News
Fox
Renewed:
The Simpsons
Empire
The Orville
The Gifted
9-1-1
The Resident
Canceled:
New Girl
TBD:
Family Guy
Bob's Burgers
Brooklyn Nine-Nine
The Last Man on Earth
Gotham
Lethal Weapon
Lucifer
Star
The Mick
The Exorcist
Ghosted
LA to Vegas
CBS
Renewed:
The Big Bang Theory
Young Sheldon
NCIS
NCIS: Los Angeles
NCIS: New Orleans
Blue Bloods
Hawaii Five-0
Mom
Madam Secretary
Bull
MacGyver
SEAL Team
SWAT
Canceled:
Me, Myself, and I
9JKL
Wisdom of the Crowd
Living Biblically
TBD:
Criminal Minds
Scorpion
Code Black
Life in Pieces
Kevin Can Wait
Man with a Plan
Superior Donuts
Ransom
Instinct
ABC
Renewed:
Grey's Anatomy
Modern Family
Roseanne
The Goldbergs
The Good Doctor
Canceled:
Once Upon A Time
Scandal
The Middle
The Mayor
Inhumans
Ten Days in the Valley
TBD:
Black-ish
Fresh Off the Boat
American Housewife
Marvel's Agents of SHIELD
How to Get Away with Murder
Speechless
Quantico
Designated Survivor
Kevin (Probably) Saves the World
Splitting Up Together
Deception
Station 19
For the People
The Crossing
Alex Inc.
Renewed:
Supernatural
Arrow
The 100
The Flash
Jane the Virgin
DC's Legends of Tomorrow
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend
Supergirl
Riverdale
Black Lightning
Dynasty
Canceled:
The Originals
Life Sentence
Valor
TBD:
iZombie
NBC
Renewed:
This is Us
Will & Grace
The Good Place
Superstore
Good Girls
Canceled:
Taken
TBD:
Law & Order: SVU
Law & Order: True Crime
Chicago Fire
Chicago P.D.
Chicago Med
The Blacklist
Blindspot
Timeless
The Brave
A.P. Bio
Rise
Champions
Good News
Fox
Renewed:
The Simpsons
Empire
The Orville
The Gifted
9-1-1
The Resident
Canceled:
New Girl
TBD:
Family Guy
Bob's Burgers
Brooklyn Nine-Nine
The Last Man on Earth
Gotham
Lethal Weapon
Lucifer
Star
The Mick
The Exorcist
Ghosted
LA to Vegas
CBS
Renewed:
The Big Bang Theory
Young Sheldon
NCIS
NCIS: Los Angeles
NCIS: New Orleans
Blue Bloods
Hawaii Five-0
Mom
Madam Secretary
Bull
MacGyver
SEAL Team
SWAT
Canceled:
Me, Myself, and I
9JKL
Wisdom of the Crowd
Living Biblically
TBD:
Criminal Minds
Scorpion
Code Black
Life in Pieces
Kevin Can Wait
Man with a Plan
Superior Donuts
Ransom
Instinct
ABC
Renewed:
Grey's Anatomy
Modern Family
Roseanne
The Goldbergs
The Good Doctor
Canceled:
Once Upon A Time
Scandal
The Middle
The Mayor
Inhumans
Ten Days in the Valley
TBD:
Black-ish
Fresh Off the Boat
American Housewife
Marvel's Agents of SHIELD
How to Get Away with Murder
Speechless
Quantico
Designated Survivor
Kevin (Probably) Saves the World
Splitting Up Together
Deception
Station 19
For the People
The Crossing
Alex Inc.
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What's the current title about? Read the last 3 pages and must have missed it. Also lol the Fuller Express does not stop leaving the station.
This is Us had already been renewed for S2 and S3. Does this mean it's been renewed further? :D
Glad Kevin Can Wait is ending tonight, but it'll surely be renewed and is just the season finale. Man With a Plan hasn't had as many episodes this season, I guess, so it's not over this week which is nice.
Glad Kevin Can Wait is ending tonight, but it'll surely be renewed and is just the season finale. Man With a Plan hasn't had as many episodes this season, I guess, so it's not over this week which is nice.
I love Sepinwall but I continue to think this problem is critic-specific. I get why they don't always want hyper-serialized shows and I'm sympathetic how Netflix and the like bing-dumping an entire season in one day plays havoc with their preferred review format. But I don't see why it isn't sustainable.
I took his comment to be about the storytelling more than binge. He's praised of online only binge shows before.
It's allllllreaaaaaaddddddy dead. Meh, it's not as good as it was at its best, but I'd like/watch a final season.
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That it hasn't been cancelled yet is good news for the show but yeah wouldn't be surprised if it got got.
But why aren't heavily serialized shows sustainable? The more classic mold is certainly a standalone hour show that sets and up resolves it's primary plot in an episode (even if some threads will carry forward to the future) and there is a lot to admire in that model and, not coincidentally, it lines up very nicely with the episodic review format that Sepinwall is a huge proponent of.
But why isn't it equally valid to take the book/chapters approach to serialized story telling on TV? We don't typically critique a novel on the basis of whether it's chapters are standalone.
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It's an article about TV criticism with the words "TV critic" in the title. So that some issues raised in the article about TV critics mainly concern TV critics shouldn't come as a surprise.
The context of the article makes it abundantly clear what he talks about and what sustainable means in that context.
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