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'Royals' Creator Mark Schwahn Fired Amid Sexual Harassment Allegations
"The Royals" creator and showrunner Mark Schwahn has been fired after being suspended shortly after Variety reported on detailed allegations of sexual harassment during his time on "One Tree Hill."

"We have concluded our investigation and Mark will not be returning to 'The Royals,'" a spokesperson for Lionsgate TV said in a statement. "The fourth season of the show has already completed production and will air as scheduled on E! in the spring."
 

Zoe

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Oct 25, 2017
14,313
Happy! is amazing, but it occurred to me that they're doing limited commercials because they can't fill up all the space due to the content. Hope one season is enough...
 

G_Shumi

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Oct 26, 2017
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Thursday night's ratings:

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CBS still practically the only network showing new episodes.
But NBC's surprise new episodes of Great News was not great.
 

Kschreck

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Oct 27, 2017
6,088
Pennsylvania
With X-Files coming back January 3rd (and looks awesome: https://youtu.be/VV5-vvNPnLo) I am hoping someone does a nice official discussion thread for the show. I am also curious to see if the show will return with high ratings again as it did with the last event series. Still the season looks like it's going to potentially be great and I am excited for that. :)
 

Hobbun

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Oct 27, 2017
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I enjoy CW shows. They always get slammed because they aren't 'quality TV'. It really depends on what your expectations are. I don't expect any Emmy award television from them, but they are fun, popcorn shows.
 

CommodoreKong

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Oct 25, 2017
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I enjoy CW shows. They always get slammed because they aren't 'quality TV'. It really depends on what your expectations are. I don't expect any Emmy award television from them, but they are fun, popcorn shows.

Yeah I watch the Superhero shows and Riverdale and mostly consider those shows dumb fun with the occasional flashes of higher quality episodes and some decent quality seasons.
 

SeanM

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Oct 26, 2017
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With X-Files coming back January 3rd (and looks awesome: https://youtu.be/VV5-vvNPnLo) I am hoping someone does a nice official discussion thread for the show. I am also curious to see if the show will return with high ratings again as it did with the last event series. Still the season looks like it's going to potentially be great and I am excited for that. :)

It does look fun, but there doesn't seem to be nearly as much hype as last time. I don't see much discussion, there's not too much ads and marketing (I see way more ads for that other Fox show 911), the video views are pretty low, etc. I think it's going to underperform big time unfortunately.
 

Danthrax

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So we have live + seven-day ratings (basically, ratings for shows that include delayed viewing from DVRs, Hulu, viewings on networks' individual websites, etc.) for the week of Dec. 4 through 10. We only get about 30-ish shows from network and cable each because TV by the Numbers releases them in the form of "total gain" and "percentage gain" instead of just ranking them by highest live+7 demo ratings. So I typed them up because I find weird projects for myself to do like that. I also made separate lists adding the last known live + same-day ratings for shows that aren't on those live+7 lists and put asterisks next to them to indicate that they're probably a little higher in the live+7s but not by a lot.

With the cable shows, I stopped when shows got less than a 0.3 because damn there are a lot of low-rated cable shows.

Anyway, I think this gives an interesting picture at what people are really into as far as TV goes these days. Enjoy.



NETWORK live + 7 ratings

The Big Bang Theory [CBS] 4.5
The Good Doctor [ABC] 3.4
Young Sheldon [CBS] 3.3
Modern Family [ABC] 3.0
Will & Grace [NBC] 3.0
Empire [Fox] 2.8
Survivor [CBS] 2.5
Chicago PD [NBC] 2.2
Law & Order: SVU [NBC] 2.2
The Goldbergs [ABC] 2.1
Criminal Minds [CBS] 2.0
Chicago Med [NBC] 2.0
The Orville [Fox] 1.9
American Housewife [ABC] 1.9
SEAL Team [CBS] 1.8
Superstore [NBC] 1.8
Star [Fox] 1.8
Family Guy [Fox] 1.8
The Middle [ABC] 1.8
The Gifted [Fox] 1.7
SWAT [CBS] 1.7
Lethal Weapon [Fox] 1.7
Black-ish [ABC] 1.7
Hawaii Five-O [CBS] 1.7
Designated Survivor [ABC] 1.6
Blue Bloods [CBS] 1.6
NCIS: Los Angeles [CBS] 1.4
The Flash [CW] 1.4
Brooklyn Nine-Nine [Fox] 1.3
Blindspot [NBC] 1.3
Agents of SHIELD [ABC] 1.2
Riverdale [CW] 1.1
Supernatural [CW] 1.0
Kevin (Probably) Saves the World [ABC] 1.0
Once Upon a Time [ABC] 0.9
Supergirl [CW] 0.9
Arrow [CW] 0.8
Jane the Virgin [CW] 0.6

38 shows




NETWORK live + 7 ratings with last known live + same-day ratings for shows with asterisks next to them (they got a 0.5 or less bump in live + 7 ratings)

*Football Night in America [NBC] ≥5.4
The Big Bang Theory [CBS] 4.5
*Thursday Night Football [NBC] ≥4.3
*The OT [Fox] ≥4.3
*Football Night in America Pregame [NBC] ≥3.2
The Good Doctor [ABC] 3.4
Young Sheldon [CBS] 3.3
Modern Family [ABC] 3.0
Will & Grace [NBC] 3.0
Empire [Fox] 2.8
Survivor [CBS] 2.5
*Football Night in America [NBC] ≥2.3
*The Simpsons [Fox] ≥2.3
Chicago PD [NBC] 2.2
Law & Order: SVU [NBC] 2.2
The Goldbergs [ABC] 2.1
Criminal Minds [CBS] 2.0
Chicago Med [NBC] 2.0
The Orville [Fox] 1.9
American Housewife [ABC] 1.9
*The Voice (Monday) [NBC] ≥1.8
*The Voice (Tuesday) [NBC] ≥1.8
SEAL Team [CBS] 1.8
Superstore [NBC] 1.8
Star [Fox] 1.8
Family Guy [Fox] 1.8
The Middle [ABC] 1.8
The Gifted [Fox] 1.7
SWAT [CBS] 1.7
Lethal Weapon [Fox] 1.7
Black-ish [ABC] 1.7
Hawaii Five-O [CBS] 1.7
Designated Survivor [ABC] 1.6
Blue Bloods [CBS] 1.6
*Thursday Night Football Pregame [NBC] ≥1.5
NCIS: Los Angeles [CBS] 1.4
The Flash [CW] 1.4
*Mom [CBS] ≥1.4
*Bob's Burgers [Fox] ≥1.4
Brooklyn Nine-Nine [Fox] 1.3
Blindspot [NBC] 1.3
Agents of SHIELD [ABC] 1.2
*Family Guy [Fox] ≥1.2
*Man With a Plan [CBS] ≥1.1
*Speechless [ABC] ≥1.1
*Life in Pieces [CBS] ≥1.1
Riverdale [CW] 1.1
*The Great Christmas Light Fight [ABC] ≥1.0
*60 Minutes [CBS] ≥1.0
Supernatural [CW] 1.0
Kevin (Probably) Saves the World [ABC] 1.0
*Superior Donuts [CBS] ≥0.9
*The Wall [NBC] ≥0.9
*Lucifer [Fox] ≥0.9
*Fresh Off the Boat [ABC] ≥0.9
Once Upon a Time [ABC] 0.9
Supergirl [CW] 0.9
*Macguyver [CBS] ≥0.9
*Dateline [NBC] ≥0.9
*America's Funniest Home Videos [ABC] ≥0.9
*9JKL [CBS] ≥0.8
*The Mick [Fox] ≥0.8
*The Great American Baking Show [ABC] ≥0.8
*Gotham [Fox] ≥0.8
*Hell's Kitchen [Fox] ≥0.8
Arrow [CW] 0.8
*The Mayor [ABC] ≥0.7
*Wisdom of the Crowd [CBS] ≥0.7
*Madam Secretary [CBS] ≥0.7
*Bull [CBS] ≥0.6
Jane the Virgin [CW] 0.6
*20/20 [ABC] ≥0.5
*Dateline Mystery [NBC] ≥0.5
*Encore! [ABC] ≥0.5
*The Exorcist [Fox] ≥0.4
*Valor [CW] ≥0.2
*Dynasty [CW] ≥0.2
*Crazy Ex-Girlfriend [CW] ≥0.2

78 shows




CABLE live + 7 ratings

The Walking Dead [AMC] 5.4
Talking Dead [AMC] 1.8
Real Housewives of Atlanta [Bravo] 1.5
Teen Mom [MTV] 1.4
Gold Rush [Discovery] 1.3
Love and Hip Hop [VH1] 1.3
The Curse of Oak Island [History] 1.2
Black Ink Crew [VH1] 1.2
South Park [Comedy Central] 1.1
Shameless [Showtime] 1.1
Vikings [History] 1.1
Real Housewives of New Jersey [Bravo] 1.0
Fixer Upper [HGTV] 1.0
Psych: The Movie [USA] 1.0
Vanderpump Rules [Bravo] 1.0
Below Deck [Bravo] 1.0
Street Outlaws [Discovery] 1.0
Keeping Up With the Kardashians [Entertainment] 0.9
Chrisley Knows Best [USA] 0.9
Black Ink Crew Chicago [VH1] 0.9
Top Chef [Bravo] 0.8
Floribama Shore [MTV] 0.8
The Challenge: Champs vs. Stars [MTV] 0.8
Knightfall [History] 0.7
Holiday Baking Championship [Food] 0.7
Are You the One [MTV] 0.7
Happy! [Syfy] 0.7
Major Crimes [TNT] 0.6
Don't Be Tardy [Bravo] 0.6
Married to Medicine [Bravo] 0.6
Broad City [Comedy Central] 0.4
Total Divas [Entertainment] 0.4
Long Island Medium [TLC] 0.4
Mr. Robot [TNT] 0.4
Long Road Home [National Geographic] 0.3
Van Helsing [Syfy] 0.3
Teachers [TV Land] 0.3
Marriage Boot Camp: Reality Stars [WE TV] 0.3

38 shows




CABLE with last known live + same-day ratings for shows with asterisks next to them (they got a 0.2 or less bump in live + 7 ratings)

The Walking Dead [AMC] 5.4
*Monday Night Football [ESPN] ≥3.49
Talking Dead [AMC] 1.8
Real Housewives of Atlanta [Bravo] 1.5
*Sportscenter [ESPN] ≥1.5
Teen Mom [MTV] 1.4
Gold Rush [Discovery] 1.3
Love and Hip Hop [VH1] 1.3
The Curse of Oak Island [History] 1.2
Black Ink Crew [VH1] 1.2
South Park [Comedy Central] 1.1
Shameless [Showtime] 1.1
Vikings [History] 1.1
*Thursday Night Football [NFL] ≥1.09
Real Housewives of New Jersey [Bravo] 1.0
Fixer Upper [HGTV] 1.0
Psych: The Movie [USA] 1.0
Vanderpump Rules [Bravo] 1.0
Below Deck [Bravo] 1.0
Street Outlaws [Discovery] 1.0
*WWE [USA] ≥0.96
Keeping Up With the Kardashians [Entertainment] 0.9
Chrisley Knows Best [USA] 0.9
Black Ink Crew Chicago [VH1] 0.9
*WWE [USA] ≥0.87
*NBA regular season [ESPN] ≥0.83
Top Chef [Bravo] 0.8
Floribama Shore [MTV] 0.8
The Challenge: Champs vs. Stars [MTV] 0.8
*WWE [USA] ≥0.78
*WWE Smackdown [USA] ≥0.76
Knightfall [History] 0.7
Holiday Baking Championship [Food] 0.7
Are You the One [MTV] 0.7
Happy! [Syfy] 0.7
*Street Outlaws [Discovery] 0.68
*Hallmark Original Movie: The Christmas Cottage [Hallmark] ≥0.68
*Live PD [A&E] ≥0.67
*Logan [HBO] ≥0.64
*NBA regular season [ESPN] ≥0.6
*90 Day Fiance [TLC] ≥0.6
*Scared Famous [VH1] 0.6
Major Crimes [TNT] 0.6
Don't Be Tardy [Bravo] 0.6
Married to Medicine [Bravo] 0.6
*Top Rank Boxing [ESPN] ≥0.59
*Heisman Trophy [ESPN] ≥0.58
*Live PD [A&E] ≥0.56
*Robot Chicken [Adult Swim] ≥0.55
*Hallmark Original Movie: Sharing Christmas [Hallmark] ≥0.55
*Monday Night Countdown [ESPN] 0.53
*NBA Basketball [TNT] ≥0.51
*Sportscenter [ESPN] ≥0.49
*Thursday Night Football Pre-kickoff [NFL] ≥0.48
*Dragon Ball Super [Adult Swim] ≥0.48
*Moonshiners [Discovery] ≥0.47
*Thursday Night Football Post-game [NFL] ≥0.46
*Rachel Maddow [MSNBC] ≥0.45
*NBA regular season [ESPN] ≥0.45
*Finding Escobar's Millions [Discovery] ≥0.45
*NFL Countdown [ESPN] ≥0.45
*Street Outlaws [Discovery] ≥0.41
*Hunt for Zodiac Killer [History] ≥0.4
*Liga MX [Univision] ≥0.4
Broad City [Comedy Central] 0.4
Total Divas [Entertainment] 0.4
Long Island Medium [TLC] 0.4
Mr. Robot [TNT] 0.4
*Moonshiners Special [Discovery] ≥0.39
*NBA Basketball [TNT] ≥0.39
*Snoop Dogg Jokers Wild [TBS] ≥0.38
*Tucker Carlson Tonight [Fox News] ≥0.38
*Dragon Ball Z Kai [Adult Swim] ≥0.38
*College Basketball [ESPN] ≥0.38
*Liga MX [Univision] ≥0.38
*Premiere League [NBCS] ≥0.38
*Rachel Maddow [MSNBC] ≥0.36
*Rachel Maddow [MSNBC] ≥0.36
*Property Brothers at Home: Drew's Honeymoon House [HGTV] ≥0.36
*College Basketball [ESPN] ≥0.36
*Squidbillies [Adult Swim] ≥0.36
*Rachel Maddow [MSNBC] ≥0.35
*Drop the Mic [TBS] ≥0.35
*Full Frontal With Samantha Bee [TBS] ≥0.35
*Thursday Night Football Pre-game [NFL] ≥0.35
*The First 48 [A&E] ≥0.35
*Sportscenter [ESPN] ≥0.35
*Chopped [Food] ≥0.34
*Sportscenter [ESPN] ≥0.34
*Tucker Carlson Tonight [Fox News] ≥0.34
*Cash Cab [Discovery] ≥0.33
*Hannity [Fox News] ≥0.33
*Watch What Happens Live [Bravo] ≥0.33
*The Jellies [Adult Swim] ≥0.33
*Pardon the Interruption [ESPN] ≥0.32
*Village of the Damned [Investigation] ≥0.32
*Murder in the Heartland [Investigation] ≥0.32
*MLS Playoffs [ESPN] ≥0.32
*UFC Fight Night [FS1] ≥0.32
*Logan [HBO] ≥0.32
*Guy's Grocery Games [Food] ≥0.32
*Sportscenter [ESPN] ≥0.32
*Hannity [Fox News] ≥0.31
*Unusual Suspects: Deadly Intent [Investigation] ≥0.31
*Married to Medicine [Bravo] ≥0.31
*Sportscenter [ESPN] ≥0.31
*College Gameday [ESPN] ≥0.31
*Black Clover [Adult Swim] ≥0.31
*Christmas Cookie Challenge [Food] ≥0.3
*House Hunters Where Are They Now [HGTV] ≥0.3
*College basketball [ESPN] ≥0.3
*Hannity [Fox News] ≥0.3
*Outlander [Starz] ≥0.3
Long Road Home [National Geographic] 0.3
Van Helsing [Syfy] 0.3
Teachers [TV Land] 0.3
Marriage Boot Camp: Reality Stars [WE TV] 0.3

117 shows
 

The Hobo

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Oct 27, 2017
3,048
Given that AoS is on Friday nights now, is that a good rating? I know Friday shows usually aren't high performers.
 

Danthrax

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Oct 25, 2017
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TVLine said:
Penned by David S. Goyer (Man of Steel) and Ian Goldberg (Once Upon a Time) and set two generations before the destruction of Superman's home planet, Krypton follows Seg-El (played by Cameron Cuffe), the legendary Man of Steel's grandfather, who is faced with a life and death conflict – save his home planet or let it be destroyed in order to restore the fate of his future grandson.

With Krypton's leadership in disarray and the House of El ostracized, Seg finds himself in a difficult position. He must redeem his family's honor and protect the ones he loves while being challenged by familiar DC characters such as Brainiac (Da Vinci's Demons' Blake Ritson) and time-traveler Adam Strange (Melrose Place's Shaun Sipos).

I'm kinda getting Caprica vibes.
 

Pluto

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Oct 25, 2017
6,480
Man im enjoying it but if the technology didn't reveal it, i'd swear Nikita was an early 2000's show.
It probably feels a bit dated because it is based on the movie from 1990 and is heavily influenced by its style, Division and how it is set up and works is basically straight out of that movie.
Just like James Bond always feels like a guy from the sixties despite using 21st century technology.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It probably feels a bit dated because it is based on the movie from 1990 and is heavily influenced by its style, Division and how it is set up and works is basically straight out of that movie.
Just like James Bond always feels like a guy from the sixties despite using 21st century technology.
Oh yeah, thanks.
Don't even mean that as a negative just heavy vibes in a lot of elements.
 

Pluto

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Oct 25, 2017
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Oh yeah, thanks.
Don't even mean that as a negative just heavy vibes in a lot of elements.
I didn't take it as a negative and I agree with you, it has that vibe.

If you haven't seen the 1990 Nikita I recommend it, it's pretty good and if you compare it to the Maggie Q Nikita it's interesting how much they actually took from it. I like that they didn't stray too far, it would have been easy to change everything and just keep the title and backstory but this show still feels like Nikita.
 

BlueScrote

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Oct 25, 2017
1,630
Wait how did the worst character on blackish get a spinoff

That's something I've been wondering too. She was by far the weakest character of both the main family and even the work/office cast. Maybe she'll have more room to grow/change being in the POV role rather than relegated to the indifferent oldest daughter role. I didn't think the backdoor pilot was terribly good, but I'll definitely give it a shot.
 
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