4Chan Rumor: Square Enix might sell off its western division to Ubisoft after the latest disappointment from Marvel's Avengers.
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Very true.
I've always wondered if there was more to that Hitman deal than we heard, or if it was just because Square genuinely didn't think anyone else could pump out dependable hits from the IP besides IO - so why bother....
But Hitman has worth even just in its name alone. How many Hollywood films have we seen? And if one of those actually hits - or if Netflix comes calling - why give that up? I don't understand that deal.
Much as I'd love to play a Mankind Divided sequel, I don't know if Ubisoft is the answer.
I'm calling bull.
I'm calling bull.
I don't know why you keep telling me about TR sales? I never even mentioned it originally. I just said in recent years their western branch was mismanaged af and that TR sales projection proves that very well. Because it's absolutly not healthy looking there.
They made mistake after mistake this gen so my point stands: it wouldn't be THAT weird for SE to sell their western business.
I think SEs CEO genuinly liked the IP and agreed to IOI taking it. Wouldn't be the first time a SE CEO burns money on something personal lol
Nah, they still own it.
Australia: https://search.ipaustralia.gov.au/t...267504?s=2508f2cd-3989-42ce-81b8-0b31b5a7c780
Japan: https://www.j-platpat.inpit.go.jp/c1800/TR/JP-2007-077481/3D584B6172728D76959C69183CAF979D0D06E4D219E79EF4543E3B7F3E71B922/40/en
Europe: https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/trademarks/001305846
US: https://tsdr.uspto.gov/documentviewer?caseId=sn78428222&docId=ACR20151030055613#docIndex=2&page=1
Maybe there was some cultural baggage on Square Enix's end with being associated with a game that's about assassinating people. If there's a big stigma in Japan, it may have been a no-brainer to hand off the IP (which seems like it's more popular in the west anyway) for free to end the association.
Square Enix acquired Eidos Interactive as their western publishing label and then rebranded the company as Square Enix Europe.
Goodbye Eidos, Hello Square Enix Europe
Square Enix's takeover of British publisher Eidos wasn't going to stop at just ownership. It's running all the way through to publisher names, with "Eidos" given the chop in favour of the more ominous "Square Enix Europe".
kotaku.com
They're pushing these western IP's because it's the business of the subsidiary brand that they acquired. Interestingly enough, Eidos was planned to be the exclusive western publisher for Enix games as the Japanese company failed to gain any market share down there.
Embracer Group has the capital to acquire Square Enix Europe, they'd rather eat the whole cake than take piecemeal portions this time around.
Nope, Square Enix still owns Taito but only really uses the company as their arcade brand and to boast ownership of Space Invaders.
Ubisoft does make sense from a logistics perspective, at the very least due to Eidos Montreal being close to Ubisoft Montreal. That said not sure if it's a great move.
They were right many many times tho. Remember the switch launch? Everybody and their mom didnt believe milk was real... and then 1,2 switch happened...
Anyways... The new Tomb Rider trilogy was great. If Ubisoft keeps it, then I dont mind. Now I dont believe this rumor at all, but seems funny nonetheless.
Square Enix acquired Eidos Interactive as their western publishing label and then rebranded the company as Square Enix Europe.
Goodbye Eidos, Hello Square Enix Europe
Square Enix's takeover of British publisher Eidos wasn't going to stop at just ownership. It's running all the way through to publisher names, with "Eidos" given the chop in favour of the more ominous "Square Enix Europe".
They're pushing these western IP's because it's the business of the subsidiary brand that they acquired. Interestingly enough, Eidos was planned to be the exclusive western publisher for Enix games as the Japanese company failed to gain any market share down there.
Embracer Group has the capital to acquire Square Enix Europe, they'd rather eat the whole cake than take piecemeal portions this time around.
Nope, Square Enix still owns Taito but only really uses the company as their arcade brand and to boast ownership of Space Invaders.
Realtalk: Embracer is our best bet for getting anything Legacy of Kain related. Darksiders practically took over that "3d Gothic action-adventure with a byzantine plot" mantle anyhow.
If square was really selling thier western companies to anyone, it would not be Ubisoft, but rather It would be Sony.
I'm confused by people going "but there's been times that a 4chan rumour was right!" as though it nullifies the many, many times a 4chan rumour that sounded like complete bs turned out to be complete bs.
Just because you're right 20% of the time doesn't mean I don't have to care that you're wrong 80% of the time.
Just because you're right 20% of the time doesn't mean I don't have to care that you're wrong 80% of the time.
They did not, SE still owns the Hitman IP.
As for this rumor...oy. No reason to think it's true, but SE is incredibly unhappy with its Western studios.
Because you said the only success came from their Japanese branch because that isn't true - Tomb Raider is still one of their biggest assets recent or otherwise.
If they sell off their western division, the only global successful and lucrative franchises they have left are Final Fantasy and the occasional mainline Kingdom Hearts game.
Let's also not forget the huge problems their Japanese division had in the last decade. I'm sure the existence of the western division at that time made that phase way more palatable than otherwise.
From the community that gave you QAnon comes the next scintillating conspiracy rumor, VIDEOGAME DIVISION SELL OFFS.
Seriously people. When the nazi harboring, trump enabling, child porn hosts give you your videogame news, maybe just like ... ignore it until it's covered by someone more reputable. Could 4chan anon person be right? Sure. Might Q really be a secret top level agent in the Trump administration trying to uncover a Democratic party satanist child kidnapping rape ring? Uhh, yeah, maybe that too.
Or maybe it's all bull shit.
Seriously people. When the nazi harboring, trump enabling, child porn hosts give you your videogame news, maybe just like ... ignore it until it's covered by someone more reputable. Could 4chan anon person be right? Sure. Might Q really be a secret top level agent in the Trump administration trying to uncover a Democratic party satanist child kidnapping rape ring? Uhh, yeah, maybe that too.
Or maybe it's all bull shit.
What are the implications of Square-Enix Western division acquired by Ubisoft?
I'm not well versed on this, so I can't really see the upsides and the downsides of this.
I'm not well versed on this, so I can't really see the upsides and the downsides of this.
I mean this could easily be wrong as hell and I wouldn't surprised but their western branch honestly hasn't been the best in terms of critical and commercial acclaim, Tomb Raider being the only franchise I know still doing well.
I don't think they are gonna sell the whole branch but I could see a restructuring and them letting go of a few assets.
I don't think they are gonna sell the whole branch but I could see a restructuring and them letting go of a few assets.
I find that hard to believe. The team that made Avengers is incredibly talented and the problems with the game come down to business decisions.
Well, whatever they do I hope they keep Tomb Raider going the way it is. Those were 3 of my favorite games over the past 7 years.
The only issues I see with Embracer Group acquiring Eidos Interactive is the 8chan stink and the fact that Darksiders 3 was far more of a budget title than its predecessor. I don't want to see these Eidos properties be revived only to have smaller budgets that affect graphics and performance.
Sony would value the acquisition of Eidos Interactive, Tomb Raider, Deus Ex and Hitman would be complementary to the western IP's of Sony Worldwide Studios. Question is, are they really willing to pull a Microsoft?
There is no upside to this, expect mass layoffs and consolidation to reduce duplication. Also, expect the suits at Eidos Interactive to still sticking around despite being the very reason why Square Enix Europe shoots themselves in the foot at every given opportunity.
For game quality, Sony buying Crystal Dynamics x Tomb Raider would be amazing.
I don't think this particular rumor is true, however with Eidos and Crystal Dynamics having released like 1 successful game in the past 20 years, It could be likely.
No need to believe 4CH rumors, of course and would be surprising if any of it ends up being true.
Square doesn't sell their IP's, but MSFT has been pretty cozy with Crystal Dynamics for the past 10+ years, even poaching some of their high profile talent for their 1ST party studios...
Square doesn't sell their IP's, but MSFT has been pretty cozy with Crystal Dynamics for the past 10+ years, even poaching some of their high profile talent for their 1ST party studios...
I was just joking that Uncharted is just a male tomb Raider series.
Maybe because Ubisoft is the only one interesting in buying it. Not that i believe in the rumor, but just because someone is selling doesnt mean that Microsoft will outbid everyone.
If true, could be any number of reasons; maybe Square thinks Ubisoft is the easiest way, maybe they already spoke to Microsoft and the deal fell through, maybe no one but Ubisoft was interested, maybe Microsoft was interested but thought the asking price was too high, just because Microsoft has a shit ton of money doesn't mean they're willing to just buy anything without first seeing value in said purchase. The rumor just said they were selling to Ubisoft, nothing about the series of events that might've taken place that lead to Ubisoft.
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