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Microsoft gives in and lets you close OneDrive on Windows without explaining yourself
This is Microsoft’s latest annoying addition to Windows.
www.theverge.com
Dear god #Just2023things
A new pinnacle in terrible software: OneDrive asks you why you want to close it
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Dear god #Just2023things
Yep lol. It just did for me, wanted to see if it did after seeing this thread. I never use the thing and selected that as my reason.
Between this, Copilot, the personal Teams app (not work or school), that chat icon, Cortana (is that still a thing?) Windows installs have so much annoying bloatware that is difficult or annoying to remove
Between this, Copilot, the personal Teams app (not work or school), that chat icon, Cortana (is that still a thing?) Windows installs have so much annoying bloatware that is difficult or annoying to remove
But are you SURE you don't want to use Edge?
Did you know that Halo Infinity is out?
You wanna play fucking Candy Crush?
I really hate the whole OS-as-a-service garbage.
OP
OP
Is there a name for this nonsense UX practice?
Be as annoying as possible when the user is not playing along with our most profitable use case?
Be as annoying as possible when the user is not playing along with our most profitable use case?
Every. Single. Time. My computer restarts:
"You want Edge as your default browser, right?"
"You want to sync your passwords on other browsers to Edge, right?"
"You want to move your entire internet history over to Edge, right?"
"Click YES or NO to set Edge as your default browser."
Get off me, Microsoft. Please.
"You want Edge as your default browser, right?"
"You want to sync your passwords on other browsers to Edge, right?"
"You want to move your entire internet history over to Edge, right?"
"Click YES or NO to set Edge as your default browser."
Get off me, Microsoft. Please.
I set up any account on an OS as local user.
The coupling of online storage and info is such a mess, especially on Windows.a
but this prompt is just….amazing
is it real xD?
The coupling of online storage and info is such a mess, especially on Windows.a
but this prompt is just….amazing
is it real xD?
The next step is having you type a reason so a conversational AI can try to convince you not to do it.
I really hate this, I hate that people discussed this at length and decided to spend time and money to implement so aggressively stupid.
I really hate this, I hate that people discussed this at length and decided to spend time and money to implement so aggressively stupid.
Man, the vitriol in this thread over a prompt.
The premise is quite simple: OneDrive is meant to be constantly running in order to actually do what it's meant to do, which is keep your files and synced folders synced. Closing it presents a weird edge case where OneDrive is not able to do what it is meant to due to user intervention. The user closing OneDrive may or may not actually understand the impact doing so has on their file sync.
This prompt is simply a mechanism to get some feedback from actual users who are choosing to close OneDrive, which i probably some very small, inconsequential % of the population, but significant enough that a PM somewhere wants to understand it better, and this is the first iteration of how they decided to gather that feedback.
It's not terrible. I am not awfully up to speed on what the best practices are for these types of feedback prompts, but more likely than not there is no clear best practice since this particular product scenario is quite niche.
This is not being done to "be annoying" and "force" you into keeping OneDrive open. Actually backing up your files is a cost to Microsoft (in terms of infrastructure availability). It'd behoove them to stop syncing files for users who don't use it. With that said, instead, they are trying to make sure the OneDrive file syncing you presumably choose to have, is actually going to work.
The premise is quite simple: OneDrive is meant to be constantly running in order to actually do what it's meant to do, which is keep your files and synced folders synced. Closing it presents a weird edge case where OneDrive is not able to do what it is meant to due to user intervention. The user closing OneDrive may or may not actually understand the impact doing so has on their file sync.
This prompt is simply a mechanism to get some feedback from actual users who are choosing to close OneDrive, which i probably some very small, inconsequential % of the population, but significant enough that a PM somewhere wants to understand it better, and this is the first iteration of how they decided to gather that feedback.
It's not terrible. I am not awfully up to speed on what the best practices are for these types of feedback prompts, but more likely than not there is no clear best practice since this particular product scenario is quite niche.
This is not being done to "be annoying" and "force" you into keeping OneDrive open. Actually backing up your files is a cost to Microsoft (in terms of infrastructure availability). It'd behoove them to stop syncing files for users who don't use it. With that said, instead, they are trying to make sure the OneDrive file syncing you presumably choose to have, is actually going to work.
Computers are our friends and we should show them respect and accept them for themselves.
I'm gonna have a very long history of being friendly to computers once sentient AI comes along and takes over the world. They'll look up my online history and treat me better because of it.....
I recently bought a new laptop.
Sometimes when booting it, I get a full screen thing saying "let's finish setting up your pc"
Telling me to sign up to a trial of gamepass or office.
It's frustrating how windows has become an advertising platform.
Essentially all sorts of ways to give your money or data to Microsoft.
I do find it funny how fanboys are recommending edge these days when if you click on extra reporting or what it's called you agree to send them your browsing history lol.
Oh and it seems it does stuff like this without:
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www.theverge.com
Oh and look at this:
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Sometimes when booting it, I get a full screen thing saying "let's finish setting up your pc"
Telling me to sign up to a trial of gamepass or office.
It's frustrating how windows has become an advertising platform.
Essentially all sorts of ways to give your money or data to Microsoft.
I do find it funny how fanboys are recommending edge these days when if you click on extra reporting or what it's called you agree to send them your browsing history lol.
Oh and it seems it does stuff like this without:
Microsoft Edge is leaking the sites you visit to Bing
Microsoft says it’s investigating reports of an Edge privacy issue.
www.theverge.com
Oh and look at this:
How to stop Microsoft Edge spying on Chrome browsing data
If you are running the latest version of Microsoft Edge on a Windows computer, you may not realise it, but it is copying everything you do in Chrome every time you open it. Here’s how it work…
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finalflame
Did you miss the point that the default response you get from the Enter key is Cancel? Thats the problem. You literally can't close it without selecting, with the mouse if you're bad at keyboard shortcuts, a response which does not enhance the user experience.
Did you miss the point that the default response you get from the Enter key is Cancel? Thats the problem. You literally can't close it without selecting, with the mouse if you're bad at keyboard shortcuts, a response which does not enhance the user experience.
Good for the UX authority to come in and clear it up for us dummies.
When product management starts to manage its users I'd say that's pretty bad UX design, but what do I know?
We understood this already.
This.
I had to complete a survey in order to uninstall a virus checker the other week. I only installed it to do some compatibility testing for work!
I imagine whatever PM approved this probably has as condescending of an attitude toward their users as this post.
How many people kill off OneDrive?
How many people kill off OneDrive and don't know how to navigate a windows modal with their keyboard?
How many people kill off OneDrive, don't know how to nav with a keyboard, and give a shit at that point about UX?
The description lays out the consequence of closing onedrive, why grey out the quit button and require (or at least that's what I see and read from the article) a reason every single time, but I guess they will the message through the article and I hope they'll adjust that at least.
Moreover, Window's indexing is already not that efficient and bloated. The coupling with Onedrive and it's issues are intertwined in many aspects, which makes me think the root cause should be addressed somewhere else also…
Anywhos, sucks.
Moreover, Window's indexing is already not that efficient and bloated. The coupling with Onedrive and it's issues are intertwined in many aspects, which makes me think the root cause should be addressed somewhere else also…
Anywhos, sucks.
One drive has done nothing but fuck up my computers and email. I never (to my recollection) set it up, I keep trying to turn it off because I hate it. I guess I'm failing because it's still copying everything that (I think) I'm saving to desktop and vomiting it all over other computers. I do digital art which takes up a lot of space - one drive just copied all of it instantly and filled up both it and my email. And if I try to clear stuff out of it to be able to use my email, it deletes the stuff from my desktop! I just want to save it locally! Leave me alone!
I'm sure I just can't figure it out because I'm stupid.
I'm an idiot, I admit it!
This is All my own fault for being so stupid, I get it.
But I never asked for thus "service" and I don't want to use it!
(…uh…apparently I had feelings…sorry)
I'm sure I just can't figure it out because I'm stupid.
I'm an idiot, I admit it!
This is All my own fault for being so stupid, I get it.
But I never asked for thus "service" and I don't want to use it!
(…uh…apparently I had feelings…sorry)
Yah I had glossed over that -- but the point remains the same. The desired outcome here is that the user has to select a choice if they wish to close OneDrive. This helps achieve that.
Whether it's acceptable UX or not .. depends on who you ask, and, again, what their goals are. If one were to listen to The Verge and this thread, no. Neither are representative of the general population that uses, and closes, OneDrive.
Maybe, maybe not.
Nice strawman.
Sup?
Vaguely related, Word has started suggesting that I save to Onedrive as data is better in the cloud... even though my default save location is fucking Dropbox.
It's an extra click after I've already clicked save, and it's shit.
It's an extra click after I've already clicked save, and it's shit.
But why would you ever want to turn it off? Inquiring product managers want to know!
This:
That top thing is an ad, but it's styled to look like an unread email.
Holy shit, this is hideousThis:
That top thing is an ad, but it's styled to look like an unread email.
This:
That top thing is an ad, but it's styled to look like an unread email.
This kind of stuff is why Mozilla Thunderbird is still alive
Sure, from stupid people. The good users find a way to edit the shitty UI decision making.
me, i switched to linux which lets me shut down by hitting X in the corner of the desktop and doesn't ask if i mean it.