Gabbo

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They absolutely should have instantly pulled out the moment the racism began. I will not disagree with that in the slightest. They mishandled the fuck out of it once they were in there. I'm not against action being taken. I'm for second chances when I personally believe it was a mistake. Based on the information we have available I feel they clearly did not do diligence with researching the website that they decided it was ok to host an AMA on. I accept their apology and will move on, but not forget this. Not everyone, or many will agree with me and that's ok. I take an apology as an apology and hope that things were handled internally. I do not need a public execution for this.

Now if it were to happen again, I would be right beside many of you asking for heads to roll. Despite how it may seem to you, I actually have a very low tolerance for this shit myself and I'm not defending THQN because they publish a lot of titles that I like. Rkelly makes a lot of music I loved as well but you won't find me listening to those songs anymore. I have a brother who is in jail for child pornography, and not only have I washed my hands of him, it's difficult to even admit I have a brother to people. My saving grace is we have different last names. Not only do I not want to be associated with him, I don't even wish to hear his name.

The people doing the AMA's responses to the posts show it was more than an accident. One does not respond to posts with pictures of knights and homophobic slurs with 'Hey that could be from one of our upcoming games!' as well preface the entire AMA with a twitter post of (specifically the bolded part) '"We're doing an 8Chan AMA and we have no idea why. Come join us!" without knowing exactly what you're doing before hand and on some level be okay with it. Like, if that tweet was just 'We're doing an 8Chan AMA!" fullstop, then maybe, just maybe that branch of THQN and the top level exec who took part in the AMA are just truly completely incompetent and shouldn't be running a company, but aren't terrible people. Maybe.

But 'we have no idea why.' is the verbal equivalent to promoting the fact you're going to be sticking a fork in a socket as a full grown adult. You know exactly what will occur if you do it, but you go ahead and do it anyway. And on top of that they stuck around and interacted.

Their followup has been their way to avoid any blame or public consequence. It seems to have worked for better or worse, since most press let them go with barely a slap on the wrist.
 

Commodore64

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There's a reason so many sites won't go after THQN.

There's a reason gaming press took so long to respond to gamersgate.

There's a reason why when they did respond to gamergate it had to written by white men.

Say what you want about YouTube (because it's true) but if it wasn't for free video hosting do you think we'd ever see anything like feminist frequency hosted on IGN or Giantbomb? I doubt it, because despite all the high horsing from gaming websites around gamersgate they never took time for inflection about how their own industry has contributed to problematic behavior.
 

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Ridiculous, press and developers have a symbiotic relationship. Doing what OP suggests hurts developers and press more than it ever will the executives behind this colossal fuckup. Frankly speaking, this should've ended in court.
 

Buff Beefbroth

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The one instance where "ethics in gaming journalism" is actually a concern and yet the very concept has been thoroughly poisoned well in advance!

Fun times.
 

Potterson

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You must realise most of $$$ comes from ads. Ads from publishers - directly or through PR agencies and media houses. Most outlets aren't part of some big media group (like Kotaku is I think, for example). So they don't really even get involved in anything "political". To not upset anyone. I wrote reviews couple of years ago for an outlet that would tell me to be less "harsh" for some games because "we won't get ads from that publisher".
 

Morgan Park

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1. Yea, sites should do more in this case. Put more pressure on them, etc. Don't let them forget.

2. So many folk just using this thread to be incredibly hyperbolic about the press in general and it's very funny.
 

eonden

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Ridiculous, press and developers have a symbiotic relationship. Doing what OP suggests hurts developers and press more than it ever will the executives behind this colossal fuckup. Frankly speaking, this should've ended in court.
Press is supposed to put a check into the industry regardless of the symbiotic relationship. If they put precedance on the well being of their relationship with developers over the industry (and customer confidence), they have failed.

Saying that they should not care is forgetting all the times media has put into check other industries, like cars, politics, or even computer hardware.
 

Sephiroth

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I was pretty satisfied with the Easy Allies discussion about this. They have little influence and wouldn't be able to start a chain reaction of solidarity against THQN, but they laid out the events well and echoed most people's thought on the matter and even discussed if they should not cover their games.

tl;dr shouldn'ta done that
 
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Its unfortunate that I'll have to boycott them, wanted to support more budget but creative larger titles

Fuckin disgusting though
 

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Press is supposed to put a check into the industry regardless of the symbiotic relationship. If they put precedance on the well being of their relationship with developers over the industry (and customer confidence), they have failed.

Saying that they should not care is forgetting all the times media has put into check other industries, like cars, politics, or even computer hardware.

No one said they should not care, certainly not me. What you want goes beyond caring. You want them to go on a crusade against the company which is both harmful and infeasible.
 

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You should not count on any games media like IGN, Gamespot or other major website because they count on publishers being their sponsors. You should organize with other people and continue bringing attention to this to as many people as possible and continually remind others with what THQN did.
 

eonden

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No one said they should not care, certainly not me. What you want goes beyond caring. You want them to go on a crusade against the company which is both harmful and infeasible.
What I want them to do is not to have forgotten immediately after that happened. The fact that the PR manager who organized that is still working for THQN is quite sad, when you compare it to how other industries work.
 

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With very very few exceptions the gaming press have failed to actually act like a proper press at every turn before this so I'm not sure why anyone was expecting better on this occasion. So long as they get their free games and invites to industry events they will lick the shittiest boots put in front of them.

They've let us down before... they'll let us down again.
 

Greatest Ever

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Because the "gaming press" isn't real journalism. It's entertainment news, which is itself just more entertainment. And the "gamer" market broadly either 1) just doesn't want to bother caring and just wants their review scores, trailers, and unboxing videos or 2) widely intersects with fairly shitty demographics, which together defines not only the core audience, but many of those in the gaming press industry.

You will never see a major outlet refuse to cover major gaming releases or run a real campaign against a major publisher with deep issues, because that will decrease their volume of entertainment content, damage relations with effective business partners, anger large swaths of the "gamer demographic", and those producing content for these outlets are part of that very same demographic and thus themselves may not care or are actively against calling these things out for suspect reason. And ultimately, it's not their job. They sell previews of and reactions to entertainment products, not journalism.

People need to stop pretending the "gaming press" is anything more than it is, or that the "gamer" crowd's issues aren't as deep and wide as they are.
Nailed it. It's paid video game blogging.
 

spam musubi

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It's worth noting that a lot of games journalists end up working as community managers, PR, or internal reviewers/consultants at publishers, all of which are better paying and more stable positions than most journalists positions. So being too negative towards companies is bad for their career prospects.
 

DaveB

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Well... If biting the hand that feeds wasn't a legitimate fear for them, they'd probably have more guts to speak out against stuff like that. I had a friend back in the day whose website gave a poor review to a game and the publisher stopped sending them press materials and games.
 
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Basically the word journalism should not be used when talking about most of gaming related press. The vast majority of content out there is either news (mostly reposted or stuff they have nicked from websites like this), game reviews or the odd opinion piece. I had a big falling out with a friend of mine who became beyond obnoxious when he decided he was a "games journalist". The irony being he absolutely hated Kotaku for some reason which is funny when you think that Jason Schreier is one of the few people who does actually does live up to the name of "gaming journalist" who does actual research and investigative journalism in this industry.

This former friend of mine ended up managing to bag a job as an editor of a niche gaming website despite having no prior experience other than writing the odd review for even more obscure websites. His very first article was a top 10 list of Fire Emblem characters he wanted to fuck. Which is an accurate representation of the inane kind of "content" he would go on to write, turns out this gaming website is owned by a publisher with an online store so most of the stuff on there is just badly disguised advertising to get you to buy shit.

Everything is about clicks and advertising, basically. Which is not to say that this issue doesn't exist in other forms of media but it's much easier to identify and discern the difference between say Daily Mail website style puff pieces and what you will find on The Guardian. Whereas in gaming media you really, really have to dig deep to any kind of interesting or challenging content that isn't vapid advertising. I will say though that the non gaming press really does go for it when it comes to shamelessly writing articles to use as promotion rather than journalism. I have never forgotten somehow coming across an article on Samantha Cameron (David Cameron's wife) during the run up to the UK election that ended up causing Brexit when the Tory leader shat himself when he thought he might lose the precious racist vote to UKIP and promised that fucking referendum which has divided the country like never before. This is how they describe Samantha, prepare yourself mentally for the most hateful sentence ever constructed in human history:

"Tall, almost supermodel skinny, effortlessly glamorous, shifting her dark brown hair from her eyes, there is more than a hint of slinky rock chick Chrissie Hynde of The Pretenders about her."

If that sentence doesn't make you vomit in your mouth a little and be forced to swallow it back down you're made of stronger stuff than I am. At least the gaming industry doesn't tend to display this level of extreme sycophantism towards itself.
 
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Im not against that. Im against a media wide ban on the publisher.
Money is the only language corporations understand. If no one gives them coverage, they lose visibility, and thus, money.
Remember, they decided to promote thier company on a site where child pornography, sexual abuse, and other disgusting stuff is freely discussed and condoned. The fact that they got away scot free speak volumes about the industry.
 

Mobyduck

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The gaming community doesn't care and I don't expect the gaming media to care either. Unless it's something that directly affects their enjoyment of a game, they won't bother.
 

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Money is the only language corporations understand. If no one gives them coverage, they lose visibility, and thus, money.
Remember, they decided to promote thier company on a site where child pornography, sexual abuse, and other disgusting stuff is freely discussed and condoned. The fact that they got away scot free speak volumes about the industry.

Who do you think has more to lose in your scenario? A large publisher, the devs or the gaming press?.

Its pointless imo. This should be a matter for the courts.
 

Datajoy

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There isn't really an institutionalized "gaming press". Outside the obvious few examples of those doing real reporting on the industry, most outlets are just infotainment sites that have no journalistic integrity or standards.
 
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Who do you think has more to lose in your scenario? A large publisher, the devs or the gaming press?.

Its pointless imo. This should be a matter for the courts.
There's a lot of other things the press can do other than talk about the actual games y'know?

But anyway, the only person that I know that does actual journalism is Jason Schreirer so...
 

Kemono

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Not even the normal press is interested.

I think we can get a few deepeer questions from kotaku or polygon when e3 arrives. THQ will have new games and they'll talk about them with journalists.

But the THQ pr-people are aware of that and will come prepared (i think).

E3's gonna be interesting for this whole disaster.
 

SturokBGD

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You must realise most of $$$ comes from ads. Ads from publishers - directly or through PR agencies and media houses. Most outlets aren't part of some big media group (like Kotaku is I think, for example). So they don't really even get involved in anything "political". To not upset anyone. I wrote reviews couple of years ago for an outlet that would tell me to be less "harsh" for some games because "we won't get ads from that publisher".
Yes, that is the problem being discussed here.
 

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Who gets sued by whom here?

Im not sure how it works were the publisher is based, but basically a company held a public forum on a site where as far as Im lead to believe child pornography is readily available which is in turn very very illegal pretty much everywhere. Ideally you'd call your local government representative to inform them of this and they should investigate. I doubt a lawyer would have much trouble making a case against them.
 

jeelybeans

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Most of the gaming press is white men and many have expressed complacent "moderate" "both sides" "were apolitical actually" type views on these issues which is shitty cover.
 

alr1ght

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The gaming press works for the publishers, not consumers. Take that in to account when you read some opinion pieces.

Presssneakfuck is good people, though.
 

Imran

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I've emailed them almost daily for the last month. They've blocked me on Skype. I don't know where you're getting the idea that this was let go, but it's inaccurate.
 

vrcsix

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They're mostly the kind of outlets that wouldn't report on Apple or Disney either. The difference is that Apple and Disney are big enough for mainstream press to pick up on.

It's really a shame. It's an industry rife with issues, yet investigative journalism is in short supply.
 

svacina

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Im not sure how it works were the publisher is based, but basically a company held a public forum on a site where as far as Im lead to believe child pornography is readily available which is in turn very very illegal pretty much everywhere. Ideally you'd call your local government representative to inform them of this and they should investigate. I doubt a lawyer would have much trouble making a case against them.
Now, I'm no expert on 8chan, but while I bet people post child porn there because edge I somehow doubt it has a dedicated cheese pizza board as such and that every each cp post results in ban and deletion. Because it's pretty doubtful that whoever owns the place now wants FBI's boot up their ass. 8chan is a cess pool but it's not dark web.
What I am trying to say is that I doubt you could nail the actual site owners for child pornography ("it's against board rules and if users upload it we take action as soon as it is discovered!") unless you want to breach the protections site owners have against user generated content, let alone a third party which hosted an AMA on a video game related board.

I guess you could see share holders suing if shares plummet, but that hasn't been the case.
 
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I've emailed them almost daily for the last month. They've blocked me on Skype. I don't know where you're getting the idea that this was let go, but it's inaccurate.


If that makes you feel better, I always counted out of the "most of the press is spineless". :")
Then again, I'm not targeting individuals here but publications as a whole. Of course one or two writers cant decide independantly that their publication as a whole should stop covering a publisher. But following THQN's refusal to answer to that, I kinda naively wished that major publications would decide to take a public stance on not providing them coverage until a proper answer was given.
 

Shinjica

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I didn't hold the gaming press to high standard in the first place. In my opinion, not many were doing an actual journalist work and most of the time doing an opinion work about games and reposting press releases sent by publishers.

But after the whole THQN stuff, which for those who may not know about, is basically a few higher ups from THQ Nordic, taking the decision to hold an official AMA on a website known for hosting child pornography, drawn but also real one, and doubling down on that decision, to then pretend it was a mistake on their end and didnt make proper research (when it's obvious even when you step on said website). As of right now, no actions from THQN has been taken toward these higher ups.

But the other problematic thing that happened following that is the weak press coverage. Sure, a few did their job reporting it accurately but others talked about it in a lame way as a "whoopsie they made a mistake !".

And today ? Well they totally let that slip away.

We're talking about a key members of a big publisher giving a spot to a website hosting child pornography and here we have the press being lenient toward that, when, if they had a fuckin spine, they should've collectively take the decision to stop covering THQN stuff and stop reviewing their games until proper actions were taken. If the biggest websites and editors in chief just decided that, the whole thing would've been resolved in a few days and THQN would've had no choice but to take proper actions, if they wanted their promotion back.

In the end, none of that happened. Crazy.

In any other industry or in any serious press, the journalists would keep coming at them until an actual answer was given. They'd keep pressing them until something was done.
Imagine if Disney hosted an AMA on a website hosting child pornography ?
Imagine if Apple hosted ab AMA on a website hosting racist content ?
The press would go insane on that.

But not the gaming press, who decided to remain the obedient and lenient promotion tool.

I basically feel like that, save for a few persons, the whole gaming press is nothing but a spineless advertisment billboard. I knew they werent the most pro-consumers, but now I know they are totally at the boots of publishers.

Game journalis are, for he majority, a second layer PR for the publishers
 

olag

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Like how someone took the time to make a pdf detailing why customers would have issues with epic exclusives .

But the press' response isn't even to acknowledge the points or publish an article contesting them. Instead they have opted to report exclusive games when they happen with snide comments conflating entitlement on the customers part.
 

btkadams

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There are definitely some real gaming journalists out there (as the OP admitted), but it's no surprise that the majority are more like enthusiasts. That's been known for many years...

Say what you want about enthusiast press being under a publisher's boot, but I think that the larger gaming enthusiast press has moved on because their audiences have as well. Most gamers probably didn't hear about this news and I'm guessing a lot of those that are aware of it have already moved on too. You could say that about most scandals that happen. We all move on to the next horror show in the news each day, gaming related or not.
 

demondance

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The OP is damning enough and doesn't even get into the fact that shortly after all this, 8chan also played host to the Christchurch shooter, in real-time during the attack, while their users largely cheered him on.

To anyone even slightly in the know, there was absolutely nothing surprising about that. It wasn't even the first murderer with heavy ties to the place. Yet THQN thought it would be a cutesy place to go and wink at the gamers and do some promotion.

8chan is full of supporters of and actual perpetrators of white supremacist terrorism, misogynistic mass killing, and child pornography. You literally couldn't come up with a worse list of notable factions of a single community of human beings. And this mainstream gaming company decided, "yeah, we'll go do some PR with these guys."

the cyberpunk future fucking sucks
 

bytesized

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Because the "gaming press" isn't real journalism. It's entertainment news, which is itself just more entertainment. And the "gamer" market broadly either 1) just doesn't want to bother caring and just wants their review scores, trailers, and unboxing videos or 2) widely intersects with fairly shitty demographics, which together defines not only the core audience, but many of those in the gaming press industry.

You will never see a major outlet refuse to cover major gaming releases or run a real campaign against a major publisher with deep issues, because that will decrease their volume of entertainment content, damage relations with effective business partners, anger large swaths of the "gamer demographic", and those producing content for these outlets are part of that very same demographic and thus themselves may not care or are actively against calling these things out for suspect reason. And ultimately, it's not their job. They sell previews of and reactions to entertainment products, not journalism.

People need to stop pretending the "gaming press" is anything more than it is, or that the "gamer" crowd's issues aren't as deep and wide as they are.
Great post, not much else to add.
 

Jecht

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I've emailed them almost daily for the last month. They've blocked me on Skype. I don't know where you're getting the idea that this was let go, but it's inaccurate.

Probably the fact that this information is found in a forum post and not on the site itself? (Unless I'm mistaken and you have written about this.)
 

angelgrievous

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I'm curious what those of you in here saying game journalist aren't real journalist think what "real" journalism is because there are many different types of journalism and saying that they're not "real" is pretty vague without knowing what you consider to be real.

Imagine saying someone who has a cooking show on youtube isn't a real cook because they don't work at Eleven Madison Park.
 

Eumi

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I'm curious what those of you in here saying game journalist aren't real journalist think what "real" journalism is because there are many different types of journalism and saying that they're not "real" is pretty vague without knowing what you consider to be real.

Imagine saying someone who has a cooking show on youtube isn't a real cook because they don't work at Eleven Madison Park.
I imagine that they're basing their definition of "real" more on what they're doing than where they work.

But the point they're making is that there's a difference between the type of journalism that they believe should be happening (fonsindering how much Schreier is brought up, I'd look to his stuff for example), and what "most" journalists are actually putting out, which lets be honest is really just glorified PR a lot of the time.

If you want an actual analogy, it's more whether or not you would consider someone a cook if all they did was heat up Birdseye brand frozen meals. Like sure, technically it is still cooking, but they aren't trying to make a point about semantics. I doubt people are actually, literally trying to claim that they're somehow "fake" journalists, it's just a way to emphasise their low opinion on their output.
 

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Probably the fact that this information is found in a forum post and not on the site itself? (Unless I'm mistaken and you have written about this.)
https://www.gameinformer.com/2019/0...e-board-with-reputation-for-child-pornography

This whole thread is just another bad faith posting about "games journalism" not too different from how Gamergate caught on. And I'm not saying the OP is a Gamergator but we really need to move past this kind of rhetoric. Journalism needs to improve in general but everyone said their piece about this and there's nothing else you can really do.
 
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Green Yoshi

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The OP is pretty has many information I wasn't aware of, thank you.

I dont understand tho what's in for THQN to do that. I can understand the situation from "some high ups get asked to greenlight an AMA on a forum and because they dont know any they say yes to whatever is suggested by people under and this happens". But if this was indeed some very targeted move and such... why? To promote child pornography? So the narrative here is that someone in a executive position has put the reputation of the company on the line to publicly promote CP?

I dont understand. Maybe im still missing stuff.
They got approached in a very friendly and polite manner. ;-)

Some adults here in Europe just don't understand the internet at all. That's why we will get upload filters in the next two years.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/13/...tive-article-13-11-internet-censorship-google
 

angelgrievous

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I imagine that they're basing their definition of "real" more on what they're doing than where they work.

But the point they're making is that there's a difference between the type of journalism that they believe should be happening (fonsindering how much Schreier is brought up, I'd look to his stuff for example), and what "most" journalists are actually putting out, which lets be honest is really just glorified PR a lot of the time.

If you want an actual analogy, it's more whether or not you would consider someone a cook if all they did was heat up Birdseye brand frozen meals. Like sure, technically it is still cooking, but they aren't trying to make a point about semantics. I doubt people are actually, literally trying to claim that they're somehow "fake" journalists, it's just a way to emphasise their low opinion on their output.
Well that's fair and I'll agree that most of the gaming press' output is wanting but I think it's a bit offensive to say they're not "real" journalist because they're not reporting on what they want them to be. To be fair though there are those out there that are, it's just not usually the big mainstream ones (although someone did just post a gameinformer article, which I'm sure landed in a few hundred thousand homes).

I would also like to see the gaming press go beyond what they're doing now (I agree, it's a lot of PR). I just don't think it would be a sustainable business practice unfortunately. Hell, it seems working at IGN, one of the largest outlets there is, is hard as is. It's just that what most "gamers" want are just hype shows, trailers, and gameplay, not deep dives into the industry itself.

I am glad Jason Schreier is still doing what he does though, he's a breath of fresh air.
 

Eumi

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https://www.gameinformer.com/2019/0...e-board-with-reputation-for-child-pornography

This whole thread is just another bad faith posting about "games journalism" not too different from how Gamergate caught on. And I'm not saying the OP is a Gamergator but we really need to move past this kind of rhetoric. Journalism needs to improve in general but everyone said their piece about this and there's nothing else you can really do.
We need to stop responding to any criticism of the media with references to gamergate.

Gamergate wasn't, isn't, and never was about ethical journalism.

It was an organised harassment campaign against women and other targets that they found acceptable.

This has abso-fucking-lutely nothing to do with gamergate, unless you're somehow implying that criticising the media's coverage of a company association with 8 chan will somehow morph into an organised harassment campaign.
 

Gotdatmoney

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People harping on this ignore that this is a business. its not just gaming. So many industries and press operate this way. Not because they dont want answers but because this is about making money before everything. Boycotting THQ Nordic does what for their bottom line exactly?

What major publications can you point out that have moved to ban coverage of a major corporation and partner for an ethical fuck up? Would it be great if we could see more public pressure on THQ Nordic? Yes. Is it really in their best interest? Nope.

And the other thing to note is that its not on outside influencers to determine how a company handles internal discipline. Everyone is yelling fire them immediately. Not every country is the US where you can just do that. Without following company procedure you open yourself up to huge legal implications. Even if these people are facing internal punishment or are eventually going to be fired (or even if they aren't) the company has zero to gain by making it public.

I dont understand what people actually expect. As long as the media has to work with publishers this intimately its not going to operate on a purely moral compass. It just isnt.
 

eonden

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https://www.gameinformer.com/2019/0...e-board-with-reputation-for-child-pornography

This whole thread is just another bad faith posting about "games journalism" not too different from how Gamergate caught on. And I'm not saying the OP is a Gamergator but we really need to move past this kind of rhetoric. Journalism needs to improve in general but everyone said their piece about this and there's nothing else you can really do.
The thread was made a week after the news, when most (if not nearly all) the media had already dropped the news and there seemed not to have been any major pressure from the journalists to address the issue.

Also, equating any type of possible negativity on gaming journalism with Gamergates (which just hide their racist and mysogynistic campaign on "ethics of journalism") is quite bad for the industry.
 

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I've emailed them almost daily for the last month. They've blocked me on Skype. I don't know where you're getting the idea that this was let go, but it's inaccurate.
Ever since the start, you were always better than most on this issue though. Very few media outlets seem to be doing what you are doing, and that's a shame really. They definitely aren't writing about it if they are.

Unless what I say is totally wrong and that's just the public impression I got.