Eamon

Prophet of Truth
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Apr 22, 2020
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Love it - BSG is so fracking good

Season 1 - Season 3's first third or so is my favorite collection of TV. The remainder or Season 3 and 4 is bit less excellent but still worth watching.
 

barbarash22

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Oct 19, 2019
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Still holds up? Never seen

I'd say yes, very.
Obviously there are some things that might be a little irritating and usually are avoided nowadays (shaky cam, abundant visual noise which leads to seemingly low image quality, zooms) but it's still is great.
Pacing is uneven but it's worth to stick with it, even if it sometimes seems to go nowehere.
The end result of all the slow buildup are always really tense episodes with in incredible battle sequences, that are still unmatched I'd say, even if the VFX aged a little.
The soundtrack is also great.
 

tuffy

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Oct 25, 2017
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You just reminded me I still have the series on DVD. There's probably almost no chance that this will someday get a 4K transfer, so it's safe to upgrade to HD?
Given its age and how it was made, a 4K version of this show is highly unlikely.

Though amusingly, the pilot movie for the 1978 show does actually have a UHD right now, simply because that one was shot and edited with a theatrical run in mind.
 

PoeticProse22

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Oct 25, 2017
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I adore this series, ending and all (the highs of which are numerous and deeply satisfying). One of the greatest pieces of television ever.
 

LV-0504

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Oct 6, 2022
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You just reminded me I still have the series on DVD. There's probably almost no chance that this will someday get a 4K transfer, so it's safe to upgrade to HD?
There have been rumblings about it recently, but for various technical reasons I can't see it happening. Even if it did I'd be worried it would be a DNR'd mess.

At this point the Blu Ray set probably isn't very expensive so I would suggest you go ahead and pull the trigger
 

FrakEarth

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Oct 25, 2017
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Anti what?? Dude is selfish the entire time
Nah that's his starting point. He's a narcissist, motivated by self interest, and we're supposed to think he's a dick from the off:

"And even now, as the fate of your entire world hangs in the balance all you can think about is how this affects you."

But he's a stand-in, a personification of all humanities flaws.

Edit: I'll spoiler tag this actually:

  • Season 1 is basically Baltar in self-preservation mode, he creates the cylon detector but he's still serving mostly himself
  • He's introduced to monotheism and starts to believe himself an instrument of God (narcissism, but based in the visions), later learns of Hera and starts to believe he might actually have a higher purpose
  • He saves Cally from Crashdown
  • He fights the cylon logic bomb
  • He helps Gina, the tortured and raped Cylon victim aboard Pegasus
  • He uses Hera's fetal bloodwork to help treat the President's cancer
  • He ultimately has a setback because, as Vice President, he reads Roslins succession letter in which she says he is selfish and compassionless, leading him to gift Gina the nuclear warhead and challenge Roslin politically
  • On New Caprica it's not long before that mistake comes back to haunt him and he is effectively made a puppet of the occupying cylons, living under the threat of assassination
  • It's later revealed that he was aware Gaeta was passing information to the resistance, and in Face of the Enemy it's actually revealed that Gaeta is a hypocrite and was "sleeping with the enemy" in a way that got people killed on New Caprica too. It's what he whispers to Gaeta that ends up getting him stabbed with a pen.
  • When New Caprica is liberated, his life is still in the balance and he has to prove himself worthy of living by helping the Cylons in various ways - such as investigating the infected plague ship / basestar.
  • He's tortured by a number 3 and tells his Head Six that he loves her. An insight in to why he betrayed humanity in the first place.
  • When he's reunited with the fleet, he's then tortured by Roslin and Adama, raising suspicion in to his involvement in the attack on the colonies
  • They debate extrajudicially killing him instead of giving him a public trial, but they relent and do the right thing
  • He writes his manifesto in incarceration, revealing his lower class childhood, his struggles and shame, the facade (dropping his old accent etc)
  • His lawyer is killed
  • Romo Lampkin and Lee defend him and he's ultimately acquitted, the trial turning guns on the fleet for their hatred of him and use of him as a scapegoat for collectively experienced tragedies and mistakes
  • Following the trial he has only enemies, no real friends or supporters - so when the religious cult take him in and make him a messiah figure - it not only serves his ego, it serves as another vehicle for survival
  • When Gaeta and Zarek launch a coup, Baltar's group support Roslin and Adama in defeating it
  • When Adama calls for volunteers to go on the final mission to rescue Hera, Baltar has a late dose of courage and allows his cult to evacuate Galactica without him so he can join the fight
  • He's instrumental in diffusing the conflict in CIC before the revelation of Cally's murder makes it all go to shit
  • In flashbacks we see the only thing that makes him briefly dismiss his pursuit of Six on Caprica is the care of his elderly father in care
  • At the very end, he establishes the natives can be mated with... "Ya gotta one track mind doc."
  • He knows farming.

He loved Caprica Six throughout. His journey is the death of his ego and learning to overcome his flaws. Learning to be brave, learning to be willing to sacrifice and risk death. He goes from serving only himself to trying to serve something bigger (humanity's children, the future, his opera house vision destiny etc).

Best character in the show IMO.
 
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harleyvwarren

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Oct 31, 2022
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Will always try to get someone else to watch this, just to see if they love or hate Gaius Baltar immediately, and pinball between these feelings for 3 seasons.
 

Quinton

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Does this include the extended editions of episodes like "Pegasus"? They're all so much better than the broadcast cuts.

Also it bothers me so much that they misspelled frakking
 

Niklel

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Aug 10, 2020
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The strongest 2-part pilot (aka the "miniseries") in a TV show I've ever seen.
The show has rather low lows and very high peaks. So kind of an uneven experience, but I loved it overall. Need to rewatch it.
 

Listai

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Oct 27, 2017
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The ideal viewing order:

thunderpeel2001.blogspot.com

Battlestar Galactica Viewing Order (No spoilers!)

The ultimate viewing order for Battlestar Galactica! With so many off-shoots, extended episodes, webisodes, one-off movies and weird bits...

I don't know if it's ideal when it comes with a disclaimer that you have to mute dialogue during certain portions of a TV movie so as not to spoil a later season.

I get it with webisodes etc but man is that daft.
 

LV-0504

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Oct 6, 2022
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I don't know if it's ideal when it comes with a disclaimer that you have to mute dialogue during certain portions of a TV movie so as not to spoil a later season.

I get it with webisodes etc but man is that daft.
You can 100% watch it in broadcast order and it is just fine, tbh I think Razor works better between season 3 and 4 anyway.

Should I start this or The Expanse?
I only recently watched The Expanse and really liked it, but it doesn't even come close to BSG's level.
 

MayorSquirtle

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May 17, 2018
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Most important thing to anyone watching for the first time is to watch the two episode miniseries first. I understand why, but it bugs the hell out of me that it's always listed separately on these services, I'm sure lots of people have missed it. For all intents and purposes, it is the pilot lol.

It's really tempting to do a rewatch and follow along with Tricia's podcast. It's been ages since the last time I saw it all.
 

BobHarris

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Dec 20, 2017
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I caught the original run right at the end, so had the joyous experience of catching up just as the finale hit.

I enjoyed it immensely. Easily one of my favorites TV show memories, even if it wore its heart on its sleeve a little too much at times.

In the intervening years I have tried rewatching several times but always find myself falling off relatively quickly. Even though it holds up, it just doesn't grip me the same way when I know how every thread plays out.
 

Cruxist

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Oct 27, 2017
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Let me be real here, Caprica is an interesting premise with a brave new direction but the risk didn't pay off. Caprica is a really bad show.

It's the kind of failure you like to see. They swung for the fences with this odd prequel. It's a bad show, but it's also somewhat interesting to watch.
 

TanookiTom

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Oct 29, 2017
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BSG is GOATed and stil one of my favorite shows ever. Not sure how they pulled that off. And unlike many others i was even quite satisfied with the finale.

The only caveat I would give to new watchers: it still follows the "old" tv show format of up to 24 episodes per season. While this gave them a lot more time to build the world and characters (something that I often miss in more modern shows), it inevitably results in some stinker episodes. Sadly even some of those will include some vital information that may seem inane at first but then the show will pick it back up later (which in itself is one of the things that made BSG so amazinig).

But there ARE some really bad episodes that you better end up skipping.
 

Aiqops

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Aug 3, 2021
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BSG is GOATed and stil one of my favorite shows ever. Not sure how they pulled that off. And unlike many others i was even quite satisfied with the finale.

The only caveat I would give to new watchers: it still follows the "old" tv show format of up to 24 episodes per season. While this gave them a lot more time to build the world and characters (something that I often miss in more modern shows), it inevitably results in some stinker episodes. Sadly even some of those will include some vital information that may seem inane at first but then the show will pick it back up later (which in itself is one of the things that made BSG so amazinig).

But there ARE some really bad episodes that you better end up skipping.

I ain't skipping any Greys or 24 episodes for example upon my rewatches and I won't skip any here either.šŸ§
 

chalkitdown

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Oct 26, 2017
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Yes but he does it so well.


I agree with the first bit. For me skipping is only something to do on a rewatch.

'Scar' in season 2 is, for me, the only truly terrible episode of the whole show. There are defintiely some other bad one, but they never get as bad as that. And even then, you can't skip it because something important happens in the pre-title sting. Though, I guess you could skip the rest of the epipsode after the opening credits. lol
 

Soap

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Oct 27, 2017
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'Scar' in season 2 is, for me, the only truly terrible episode of the whole show. There are defintiely some other bad one, but they never get as bad as that. And even then, you can't skip it because something important happens in the pre-title sting. Though, I guess you could skip the rest of the epipsode after the opening credits. lol
Any episode that has focus on a certain relation is horrible

Caprica six and Tigh