Amazon Top 10 games 2018 Thus far-End of the year.
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it's an anecdote obviously but aside from 3d/2d mario and mario kart, i've legit never seen anyone even speak about nintendo games or any sort of marketing (bus ads, train ads, billboards, posters etc). i think when mario kart 8 deluxe was coming out there were a few posters here and there but it was pretty scarce at the end of the day.
from this past month alone, i've seen multiple fallout 76, rdr2, black ops 4 and spider-man ads round where i live.
that's not to say that ninty games don't do well in the uk (got no clue honestly - curious how well botw did) but they don't really have a presence here. everyone i know owns a ps4 not a switch, even back in the wii u days no one really owned it here, whereas it seemed like for a while the USA and Japan was keeping it alive. nintendo haven't really captured the uk market like they did with the wii, that shit was HUGE (but then again it was everywhere else).
even the sainsburys and tescos (large chain supermarkets) near my house (i live in london) don't even stock nintendo games. they stock the physical pc version of farming simulator 17 but no switch games. also bare in mind they had midnight launches for rdr2 and black ops 4. really tells you all you need to know about nintendo in general in the uk. it's an enthusiast thing more than anything.
germany and france are way better markets for nintendo europe. uk is sony land.
Listing by individual vs combined SKU, no digital for some publishers (Nintendo, Bethesda, Sega, etc).
Obviously CoD just isn't an Amazon purchase, it's probably more targeted to the Walmart/Gamestop side of things....
Yeah, I see, but I don't agree it's hurting the games performance. All it could be hurting is the game's placement on a not very relevant sales chart. Let's Go may not be in Amazon's top 10, but it will do fine anyway. If anything, the multiple SKUs will help it in bringing more dollars per purchase, and also pushing consoles with the bundle!
I guess that explains why Far Cry 5, which is #1 in the NPD rankings, is only #47 and #74 on Amazon
I didn't mean it is hurting the game's performance, I meant it is hurting its placement, yes
Yeah, I definitely do know Nintendo is the weakest of the big three in the UK, I am just curious as to what that entails in absolute terms haha. Thanks for the really detailed answer!
Weird I wonder what type of person would buy bother purchasing Far Cry 5 for PC on Amazon...
It's almost like some games perform better at some retailer than others...
And then shit gets all fucked up when you combine 3 skus and compare them to a single sku...
It's not just cod tho. What about FC5? Sport games? MH? There's no way these sold less on PS4 than DK, or Zelda selling more this year than Spider-Man or GoW.
while they may not give them to npd, they include them with their quarterly updates on game sales, which is actually the most up to date, reliable worldwide sales numbers we get from any publisher.
Definitely, I just wish we had them for comparisons sake to other games on the monthly charts
Why does games selling more at certain retailers surprise you?
Have you seen the stacks and stacks of stacks of Madden available at Best Buy at release? Have you seen the Walmart/Target/Other discount big box displays for CoD.
Big Box retailer sales of certain titles makes GameStop look like a mom and pop shop by comparison.
Either way -without a SKU Breakdown it's harder to compare things directly.
no problem! i remember wanting to get super mario odyssey at launch but my local tesco didn't even have it (buying physical games from large chain supermarkets is a big thing here in the uk) so i just decided to go digital. i'd like to buy more physical switch games but i'm not too hot on buying them from amazon, would prefer to pop into a shop and get them.
^ i see pictures of gamestop and what not in america stocking these physical indie games and i'm like "wow what the fuck i'm jealous why don't we get that". if you went into our equivalent of gamestop (it's called game) all you'd see in the nintendo section are nintendo published games and AAA stuff like FIFA and NBA. in general the nintendo sections in these dedicated game shops are fucking tiny compared to the ps4 and xbox one sections. like you'd be super lucky to even find something like the physical version of disgaea 5 complete in most game shops in the UK.
If these many games are skewed towards other retailers then this list is meaningless.
I think si. It will sell better than Spiderman. Mark my words...
The list tells you exactly how shit is selling at Amazon, nothing more nothing less.
Just because you can't extrapolate on shit doesn't make the Data worthless. You sure as fuck shouldn't extrapolate any of the sales data from any individual region of Europe or Japan either.
Amazon sells digital codes. I bought Smash on Amazon because I could get it digital plus $10 off.
Anecdotally there are more reasons for me to buy from Amazon due to discounts, and Nintendo physical games hold value the best (not due to game quality, mind, but due to Nintendo limiting stock artificially and overcharging for tons of their cheap games) so they're good for a trade in.
In other words, Nintendo ranking high here is pretty meaningless.
Was it really not clear enough I was talking about it being meaningless in the context to general sales numbers in the US? And the last part makes no sense unless entire countries got into dispute with many of the big games this year and decided not to sell them?
Hopefully looking at this list will finally stop people using Amazon rankings to comment on how well a game is selling.
Amazon makes up a certain percentage of games sales in the US and here are their SKU rankings for 2018 YTD.
How is that not context?
General Sales numbers in the US or World shouldn't be extrapolated from smaller data sets anyway that's Chartz level shit.
Why are people still buying games from Amazon when their shipping service has gotten sloppy, their courier is terrible, and they don't even offer a price advantage to the competition anymore?
Except the list is so skewed by the fact they didn't sell many of the biggest games of the year for months making it worthless if you're trying to guess the top 10 games of the year in the US. If you all care about is what games sold better on Amazon then good for you, but I wasn't talking about that.
Makes sense it's mostly Nintendo due to less digital purchases on average. Smash being above Odyssey despite not even having released is pretty crazy though, I could see this being one of Nintendo's biggest launches ever.
Far and away the most convenient shopping experience around.
Individual vs combined SKU does not change how off these Amazon rankings are: GOW and Spiderman are both PS4 exclusives, 2 and 3 in ND rankings yet behind Mario Party in Amazon.
Iirc Spiderman opened at near 3 million, GOW at 2 million+ and Mario Party was not close to either.
Iirc Spiderman opened at near 3 million, GOW at 2 million+ and Mario Party was not close to either.
How the fuck are they off?
They're literally just rankings of shit that Amazon has sold.
Spider man sales are pushing 5 million after a month. It's going to hit 10
Smash 4 combined sales was 13 million on a combined install base of around 85 million, which included people who double dipped. Roughly 15% attach rate
Switch has about 22 million units sold. Even if Switch sells another 20 million units, and attach rate goes up to 20%, thats still only 8.4 million units. If Smash beats Spider Man PS4 it will only be because both the game and the Switch itself have really really really strong legs and it will happen 5 years down the road when they're selling Spider Man 3 on PS5. It's not happening this fiscal year.
I see a lot of Nintendo ads around my end these days, there's a Pokémon Let's Go billboard right next to my house and weirdly I see like 10 consecutive bus shelter ads for Diablo Switch on my commute to work.
Why does it hurt? Because it's not on a list based on single SKUs? The amount of revenue is still the same so in the end it doesn't matter if it is on this list or not.
really? where do you live? i live in camden and there's fuck all unfortunately.
Amazon software rankings are meaningless, and they're generally heavily weighted towards Nintendo titles for whatever reason.
why would amazon's best selling list have an obligation to represent total market figures? it tells you what sells best on amazon. nothing more, nothing less.
they're meaningless how? they tell you what they're supposed to tell you.
damn, some people are getting salty over this. it's crazy.
Leeds, there's been a lot of Nintendo advertising ever since the switch released, especially bus shelter ads. Buses themselves are all dominated by RDR2 ads but I've seen more Diablo Switch ads than anything else weirdly, a few Fallout ones here and there.
Yes and it would be tracked as a separate SKU on Amazon (therefore with a different ranking) while it is combined in the NPD thread. You are completely missing the point.
which of his questions implies amazon's list is supposed to be a representative of the entire market?
people are saying the list is off, or that the info it provides is worthless, those statements don't make any sense.
Meaningless in that they aren't a good representation of the market.
If we establish Amazon is a poor predictor of reality (90-100% market) what is the point in guessing Amazon rankings?
OP posts Amazon's list then proceeds to ask what our top 5 prediction will be. So you saying OP is asking us what our top 5 predictions will be on Amazon instead of overall?
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