They are most likely considering Pro models that already are 20TF or more. Next gen consoles will go way above 30TF
AMD RDNA 3 RX 7000 Series General Discussion Thread
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I feel that I'm either skipping the RDNA3/Lovelace gen or going AMD... no way I'm going with an Nvidia card with the amount of TBPs being thrown around.
Currently riding a 3070, the only thing I'm gonna miss about Nvidia is their software (Nvidia Broadcast is a godsend, but I can afford to pay for a Krisp subscription so there's that at least).
Currently riding a 3070, the only thing I'm gonna miss about Nvidia is their software (Nvidia Broadcast is a godsend, but I can afford to pay for a Krisp subscription so there's that at least).
PS5/XSX can't even run last gen games at native 4k unless 30 fps, they barely can do RT even at 1440p as well. Great jump in tech is always welcomed, even if its not mainstream yet.
Its theoretical performance but still difficult to believe when compared to RDNA2 theoretical performance. This is gonna be the biggest performance jump in GPU history.
I think a 60 - 70TF RDNA 4 (?) SoC built on leading TSMC node by then (3nm or maybe better) with Zen 5 (?) would make for a sweet generational leap over the PS5. No to mention the far, far better RT performance they'll have. Quite exciting times. :)
Correction 4K/120 ;).
Navi 33 will do that at N21 performance or even more at 1080p-1440p ;).
Am I reading this wrong or I'm right in saying that RDNA3 mid to mid-high range would have reasonable TDP/ Power requirements? All this talk of the Nvidia 40 series being very power hungry had me thinking of sticking with my 2080 for longer.
Yeah, Navi 33 is interesting because it's a TSMC 6nm part but probably 200W or less but performance on par with 6900XT if not faster at 1440p or lower. And clocked at maybe higher than 3Ghz.
I would just enjoy it for now. It's a nice card.
If you wanted to sell then you basically should have done it 3 months ago. A 3060ti non lhr already lost almost half of its value compared to late 2021
So you read some impossibly stupid bullshit made up by AMD fanboys?
Yeah, we already knew that Lovelace was just buying time until they can get Hopper (their mcm architecture) working
Where are you reading that? The chart in the op is saying like 500W
Hopper isn't for gaming. there is, allegedly, a gaming Hopper in the form of the AD102. and Hopper is monolithic, so far. there might be an MCM Hopper, but that could just be saved for Blackwell
This sounds more appealing than whatever Nvidia is cooking (literally) up. Just hoping for improved RT performance. This also bodes well for pro consoles/next-gen. Just need twice the GPU perf for systems to get fidelity modes at high frame rates. Should be easily doable eventually with RDNA3.
Chip shortage probably will make the console gen longer.
With the chip shortages blunting growth, I don't expect next gen hardware until 2028 at the very earliest.
silicon and silicone are two different things :P
and scaling for silicon is hitting limits
Fair enough. I just want something that can get me 1080p/120 at decent settings for the next few years so I'm just kind of using the assumption that the XSX/PS5 will on average be about 1440p/60 for most games this gen with my choice of future GPU, so that's just what I'm hoping/waiting on even if it'll likely not happen for a bit longer. But that's okay, I need a new CPU first anyway since my Broadwell i5 is starting to finally show it's age with the new cross gen games, and that probably won't happen until Zen 4 is unveiled so I can get hopefully the best bang for my buck
Hasn't been an issue for a decade, shit, Nvidia's been the one with problematic drivers since the RTX cards came out.
You can buy 10 TF RDNA2 under 500$ right now. Its called PS5
Is power draw really going to skyrocket with these new GPUs?
I've been running 650w PSUs for like a decade and it has always been enough for a single flagship GPU, I have a 2080 paired with a 5900x right now and I don't really want to change the PSU when I get a new GPU because they turned into electricity hogs...
I've been running 650w PSUs for like a decade and it has always been enough for a single flagship GPU, I have a 2080 paired with a 5900x right now and I don't really want to change the PSU when I get a new GPU because they turned into electricity hogs...
TBH if I could get 4k120 on max settings I would want it. Until this happens ya, why wouldn't we want a motor powerful card? I know I am not the only one either. Why wouldn't we if it was possible?
Where are you getting this? Everywhere I look I see ps5 for 800+. I have not seen one at 500.
my iPhone actually rekt me on that one lol
And when you say this are you referring to how many transistors we can pack on different die sizes and all that?
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Well technically I can, but I haven't been able to get one yet. I do plan to get one eventually, I just prefer PC gaming, just waiting for when an upgrade will be worthwhile for me personally since I prefer to only upgrade once or twice a console generation
I can already see cryptobros/resellers salivating at the amount of money they could make out of these cards.
I think I can still break even or a little more if I tried to sell it. But yeah I definitely missed the boat when selling it. I had it since late October 2021 but I took too long to decide whether or not I wanted to keep it 🤡.
These will come out and become old and dated and we will all still be stuck with out 1tf Switches lol.
Intel really got put in a hard place, now their first offering is not going to drop and save the prices, we are almost at MSRP and when the new cards from AMD and Nvidia start dropping they are going to get forgotten. At minimum they should move Battlemage to the start of the year because if they stay mid year adjusting for their last release adjustment, I legit don't see how they gain market.
I hope AMD mid offerings are 300w at most.
I hope AMD mid offerings are 300w at most.
In a shop, it's all in one. You don't need CPU etc. Its sweet spot in price/ performance in gaming.
my comment was more about people being against "smarter" ways of doing things, like upscaling. native resolution doesn't seem to be the best use of power, IMO. especially if you're aiming for 120fps. and even then, if you could do 2160/120fps, there's also the option of a lower resolution, 120fps, and even higher visual settings. for as much as people talk about IQ, there's more to it than just increasing the resolution, which these higher powered gpus can go towards
Hmm... Managed to snag a RTX 3060 for close to MSRP ($477 Canadian, or $371 US as of this post) about a week ago. I'm using a 1650 Super at the moment, which actually performs surprisingly well (I only use a 1080p monitor)... But the 4 GB VRAM is really hurting (Really easy to max it out, even with lower settings), so when I saw a near MSRP price I had to go for it.
If the power draw of these GPUs are as high as some say they are, I think I can be happy with the 3060 for a good many years, especially with how upscaling tech is getting better. I was aware the next round of GPUs was around the corner, but since there's no guarantee you'd get them for a reasonable price and the rumored power draw, I figured I'd take the risk. Hoping it pays off, heh.
If the power draw of these GPUs are as high as some say they are, I think I can be happy with the 3060 for a good many years, especially with how upscaling tech is getting better. I was aware the next round of GPUs was around the corner, but since there's no guarantee you'd get them for a reasonable price and the rumored power draw, I figured I'd take the risk. Hoping it pays off, heh.
Once you get to xx60 levels, power draw isn't crazy. All this power draw talk is only for the high end, xx80/xx90 and x800, x900
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