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Umbrella Carp

Banned
Jan 16, 2019
3,265
With the hype for the next election building recently, I have been revisiting old editorials about the past 10 years in politics, in particular "Divided States of America" by Frontline:


It's a superb 4 hours (two 2 hour parts) that lays out in plain english Obama's rise to power, the rise of Palin and the populist right, Obama's entire term and every issue he faced from shootings to the financial crisis all the way to Trump's election. During the 4 hours, the producers regularly overlay clips of talkback radio hosts over the footage in the context of the shit that Obama was copping at the time from the hard right, and jesus fucking christ. It's only snippets but these people still easily come across as utterly batshit. Everything from the birther movement to the whining and doomsday talk about socialism and Liberal issues, It is truly unbelievable and sickening to listen to.

How did it get this bad? How did such cookie cutter fruit loops who should be shaking empty tins on the sidewalk become so....powerful within the Republican machine? Surely Sarah Palin was not so "talented" to pull off something so influential single handedly as to trigger the Tea Party and eventually Trump.
 

Sectorseven

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,560
People are more easily influenced when they are alone, and people often listen to the radio when they are alone.
 

Gpsych

Member
May 20, 2019
2,901
A huge number of Republican voters are essentially a racist-driven doomsday cult. I'm not even using hyperbole here - that's literally what a lot of them are. Political data informed the GOP that this base was out there, easy to galvanize, and simple to manipulate. The pieces were already in place, the GOP just needed a mechanism (right wing media) to get them together. This has been known since the "Southern Strategy," but prior to modern times, there was no way to really get them all together.
 

BDS

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
13,845
Even with Obama's poll numbers well above McCain's in nearly every poll for months before the 2008 election, much of white America still privately assumed there was no way he'd actually win. It's just liberals virtue signalling in public about supporting the black guy, but on election day they'll vote for what's right. And then on election day Obama won by a huge margin and millions of white Americans' brains broke. Just snapped into a million pieces. The established order had been upended. A black man was not supposed to win. That's not what's supposed to happen in God's white America. They completely and utterly lost their minds and never recovered.
 
Oct 26, 2017
9,942
How did it get this bad? How did such cookie cutter fruit loops who should be shaking empty tins on the sidewalk become so....powerful within the Republican machine?
Because they've been very deliberately targeted for recruitment due to the fact that they're incredibly easy to manipulate. Racists, Religious extremists, misogynists and their most recent acquisition, angry socially awkward adolescent men.
 
Nov 28, 2017
589
I'm probably wrong, but I think that the issue was started by Rush Limbaugh almost 30 years ago.
At least he is the first talk show host I remember that started employing what now could be called "Fox News tactics".
 

corasaur

Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,988
The talk radio cesspool started in the 90s with Rush Limbaugh and friends, I think.

The ramp-up of crazy started before then, though. There was civil rights backlash in the 60s and 70s, Clinton backlash in the 90s, the tea party during the obama years, and Trump now. it's been a steady escalation of rage and willingness to burn it all down.
 

RoaminRonin

Member
Nov 6, 2017
5,770
It's terrible and a form of brainwashing. My former job my manager would sit and listen to sinclair talk radio all day and just like you'd guess, he was a miserable pile of hateful shit of a human being.
 

Kthulhu

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,670
Even with Obama's poll numbers well above McCain's in nearly every poll for months before the 2008 election, much of white America still privately assumed there was no way he'd actually win. It's just liberals virtue signalling in public about supporting the black guy, but on election day they'll vote for what's right. And then on election day Obama won by a huge margin and millions of white Americans' brains broke. Just snapped into a million pieces. The established order had been upended. A black man was not supposed to win. That's not what's supposed to happen in God's white America. They completely and utterly lost their minds and never recovered.

Then 2012 happened and it got even worse



I've never heard it referred to as "talkback" radio
Me neither
 

patientzero

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,729
I'm probably wrong, but I think that the issue was started by Rush Limbaugh almost 30 years ago.
At least he is the first talk show host I remember that started employing what now could be called "Fox News tactics".

You'd really have to go back to Southern radio programs in the 1930s if you wanted to trace modern media practices along these lines.