https://gizmodo.com/americas-obesity-problem-is-getting-even-worse-1829068201
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America's Obesity Problem Is Getting Even Worse
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I may be missing something here, but if West Virginia has the highest rate at 38.1%, how is it that the national rate is 39.6%?
I wonder if they're mixing BMI with the percentage of people in the obesity range for BMI? I'm not sure.
This will *never* improve without serious regulation and investment on a federal scale. And that won't happen without serious campaign finance reform. And the chances of that are, uh
it's kinda depressing how many of the WORLD's problems have known and feasible solutions that are....shoved under the rug. Not enough money in helping folks, I guess.
Other states have larger populations than West Virginia.
WV: 1.816 million * 38.1% = 691,896 people
CA: 39.54 million * 25.1% = 9,924,540 people
California has more obese people than West Virginia has people.
Edit: actually, the report directly addresses this:
Different data methods
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What has been working in Hawaii and Colorado that isn't working in Iowa and West Virginia?
Yep pretty much. And like even something as simple as this being mandatory on nutrition facts would totally change peoples perspectives on food.
Like people's LARGEST issues are how much food we are consuming and the amount of calories associated, vs what is expended. We just eat way too fucking much food. I gag now at eating out and knowing a meal is literally worth a wholes day of food. Now imagine eating out like that 3 or two times a day and it's no wonder why people are obese.
Colorado has a very big outdoor culture involving hiking, mountain biking, kayaking etc which goes along with a generally healthier lifestyle.
Considering the numbers, they're pretty much going to have to be haha. Not much choice :P
instead of the useless "per serving" table, there should be a "per 100 g" table so you can easily calculate percentages and compare percentages between different brands
Nope. Labels are WILDLY different. The only reason that has it is because this is made by an California company. But most do not give both per serving and whole package.
Most labels simply force you to do the math on how many calories the whole package is.
This too. A universal serving size weight work wonders as well.
Problem is tons of people don't recognize obesity even when it's right in front of you.
I actually noticed how skinny people were when I went to Denver. It's only noticeable when you go to certain places.
Is BMI the one that doesn't measure accurately? Like a body builder would be considered obese under it, right?
Even then, having seen the reaction to even the most minor of positive changes here in England, I don't think public opinion is not going to support that serious regulation. We get a small tax on sugar because sugar-related health issues are a burden to our country's health system and its society as a whole... people want it gone because their energy drinks taste a little different. The opposition for the kinds of regulations needed to make serious change will be much, much greater, and I'd argue that would be true for both sides of the political spectrum.
Personally I see the main thing preventing is this idea that "personal responsibility" is the be-all and end-all when it comes to the causes of obesity. Because the idea of obesity as an addiction is not commonly regarded as true any significant change is seen as a punishment for those who aren't fat and an "easy way out" for those who are.
Either that or people simply don't care enough to ask for it; I'm frankly seeing a lot of parallels with climate change when it comes to just how apathetic people can get regarding such a significant issue.
BMI is accurate for the vast majority of people, and the outliers are too few to really affect more wide-reaching sets of data. If your BMI reading says your obese and you aren't a body-builder... there's a fair chance you're obese.
I live in a corner of the world where obesity is not particularly normal, and these numbers are blowing my goddamn mind.
It's hard to imagine.
It's hard to imagine.
Is it just me or is the BMI not that accurate for tall people. For my height (6'2") the low-end of normal is 145 lb, I was that weight after my last growth spurt at 14 when I was nothing but skin and bones (before I started doing weights). I'm trying to get back to the high-end which would be 194, but at that weight I'll be freaking slim and wearing 32-33 pants. I'm wearing 34s at 218.
I say this as a fat person who has been fat most of his life.
Fat just isn't carried well on most people and it's hard to dress up.
There used to be way more attractive people out there for the dating pool before we all got fat. Being fit instantly raises your physical appeal by like 4 points for most people.
Fat just isn't carried well on most people and it's hard to dress up.
There used to be way more attractive people out there for the dating pool before we all got fat. Being fit instantly raises your physical appeal by like 4 points for most people.
BMI works for the general population. How many serious body builders do you think are out there?
Sugar is crack. People are so hooked on artificial flavors etc. I remember how pissed I was when I finally tried an actual blueberry and strawberry and it wasn't like the flavoring I was used to have in my mind of what they should taste like.
People really have little grasp on how health issues and poor diet is the main way people die.
Everything goes back to capitalism. People don't have money so they lean towards cheap food which is mostly unhealthy and abundant and unhealthy. The entire system there is rigged. Nobody has time to dedicate to self care, including working out, because they work extreme hours. Everything is fucked.
As someone who has seen the epidemic first hand in medical settings over the years, this is a huge problem that's just waiting to explode. People are getting so fat that nurses are getting injured trying to flip them over in bed. The amount of drain this has on our healthcare system is huge given how much obesity affects your whole body.
And it definitely doesn't help when obese people act extremely aggressively to any notion to try and change their situation. Note how past legal attempts to deal with soda portions are met on ERA with people demanding the right to drink or eat as much as they want. But we have to ignore them, because these attempts do work, and we have to keep going with them (more aggressively too).
And it definitely doesn't help when obese people act extremely aggressively to any notion to try and change their situation. Note how past legal attempts to deal with soda portions are met on ERA with people demanding the right to drink or eat as much as they want. But we have to ignore them, because these attempts do work, and we have to keep going with them (more aggressively too).
It can skew if you have certain builds. A better indicator is hip to waist ratio.
You are one sandwitch away from FAT.
lol joking. I think the BMI is a general rule but it doesn't apply to everyone. I have small bones and I'm pretty thin at the waste line, so if I would be at the high end I would definitly have a lot of fat.
I blame the food industry. They are just like cigarette makers, only less insidious and evil.
The thing is, I don't really think people who are obese care how much calories are in their milkshakes or cookies. When I used to gorge on food, I didn't really care about that either. What made me realize that I needed to lose weight wasn't any warning on labels or anything like that.
Empirically, I don't think nutrition facts have been shown to substantially impact people's eating habits. In a broader sense, the replication crisis in psychology and a long history of attempts to nudge people's behavior point to a pattern: people are resilient in what they do. That isn't to say that there are no levers to push and pull, but that we should no longer expect small, inexpensive, limited changes (like fixed portion sizes, small soda taxes, or mandatory labeling) to produce meaningful results.