Actually, if you look back you might realize that terrorist groups like the "Irgun" wanted it.Just watching this video would probably be enough to understand that Israel got attacked early on by every other country, and tried again and again to make peace. No one seemed to want it.
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Actually, if you look back you might realize that terrorist groups like the "Irgun" wanted it.
Israel didn't pop out of nowhere without any kind of violence or terror.
I don't need to watch anything.Watch the video, it's 10 min long and you'll learn some stuff.
Israel was created because the British's gave it to the Jews. And British's gave a land to the Palestinians too. No violence or terrors. Israel got attacked by all the Arabs countries surrounding it just after.
I don't need to watch anything.
Palestine wasn't "given" by britain. It existed before britain. Go read on Irgun, maybe you will learn stuff:
Irgun - Wikipedia
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Colonized a lot of countries including Palestine, then under pressure from terrorists like Irgun decided to create a state over there for the Jews?
I agree but important people here don't soooo.... perhaps they changed....This forum isn't mainstream media, they shouldn't be censored for calling out the truth
So... Go Israel, go make good use of your new weapon of destruction and hope your new technology will be a big success. Now go and kill those..........Ah yes, every Israel related thread ends up with just fuck Israel post.
Colonized a lot of countries including Palestine, then under pressure from terrorists like Irgun decided to create a state over there for the Jews?
Do you even know what happened back then? It is not like Palestine was the only country occupied by Britain at the time...
The fact you link a 10 minutes video attempting to explain a very long and complicated conflict tells me all I need to know.
State of Palestine - Wikipedia
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Part I: History
In 1947, the UN adopted a partition plan for a two-state solution in the remaining territory of the mandate. The plan was accepted by the Jewish leadership but rejected by the Arab leaders
The Arab Higher Committee did not declare a state of its own and instead, together with Transjordan, Egypt, and the other members of the Arab League of the time, commenced military action resulting in the 1948 Arab–Israeli War
I don't see anything about pressure from terrorists. But Wikipedia is probably lying, anyone can edit it after all.
Just watching this video would probably be enough to understand that Israel got attacked early on by every other country, and tried again and again to make peace. No one seemed to want it.
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A plot of land is nobody's "to give" for that matter, not the Jews' Brits' or Arabs'... all of human history is just a game of kill and enslave the population, proclaim land as yours... until another invader comes and does the same to you.Palestine was still not theirs to give and no country should decide what another country is supposed to be like. It had it's own people with their homes. Israel was created out of terror and massacre's. The Irgun article I posted talk about it. Specifically the Deir Yasin massacre, the hotel of david massacre?.
You never heard about the David hotel massacre? Did you read the link I sent earlier?
To say that Israel came from no violence and is innocent is a big fat lie.
It belonged to the people living there at the time which is why someone coming in and cutting it in half is some really bizzare excuse to me.A plot of land is nobody's "to give" for that matter, not the Jews' Brits' or Arabs'... all of human history is just a game of kill and enslave the population, proclaim land as yours.
Palestine was still not theirs to give and no country should decide what another country is supposed to be like. It had it's own people with their homes. Israel was created out of terror and massacre's. The Irgun article I posted talk about it. Specifically the Deir Yasin massacre, the hotel of david massacre?.
You never heard about the David hotel massacre? Did you read the link I sent earlier?
To say that Israel came from no violence and is innocent is a big fat lie.
It belonged to the people living there at the time which is why someone coming in and cutting it in half is some really bizzare excuse to me.
What country is not built from land soaked with blood? It's really just human nature to take over land and declare it as their own, it's not unique to israel or any country for that matter, on both sides there are people who just want to live their lives and religious extremists take that all away for greed and power.Palestine was still not theirs to give and no country should decide what another country is supposed to be like. It had it's own people with their homes. Israel was created out of terror and massacre's. The Irgun article I posted talk about it. Specifically the Deir Yasin massacre, the hotel of david massacre?.
You never heard about the David hotel massacre? Did you read the link I sent earlier?
To say that Israel came from no violence and is innocent is a big fat lie.
People living there were under a regime that did just the same just before, it's all recency bias and some religious mumbo jumbo or manifest destiny that is normally used to justify the previous takeover and ethnic cleansing that ensued.It belonged to the people living there at the time which is why someone coming in and cutting it in half is some really bizzare excuse to me.
You do know that a lot of members from Irgun ended up working for the state right?King David Hotel bombing - Wikipedia
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The Jewish political leadership publicly condemned the attack. The Jewish Agency expressed "their feelings of horror at the base and unparalleled act perpetrated today by a gang of criminals"
=> Also go shit on the British and the United Nations. They agreed and signed a contract.
I don't thankfully.
What country is not built from land soaked with blood? It's really just human nature to take over land and declare it as their own, it's not unique to israel or any country for that matter, on both sides there are people who just want to live their lives and religious extremists take that all away for greed and power.
I agree with you both on this point.People living there were under a regime that did just the same, it's all recency bias and some religious mumbo jumbo or manifest destiny that is normally used to justify the previous takeover.
The AI system for Carmel was reinforced and trained ... with a few other games such as "Doom," to teach the AI different strategies for ... target detection
Maybe read the OP of this thread.Ah yes, every Israel related thread ends up with just fuck Israel post.
they'll be able to say "Gamers are one of the most oppressed peoples on the planet" while they colonize.
I completely agree, Arabs and Jews lived together peacefully in Palestine for decades, the British and then the cold war powers had to ruin all that.However, I feel the way Israel was created (to split a country in half) is the worst way it could have been done. Going into a country and then splitting it by force will only lead to violence. Co existing natrually without splitting is what should have been done. You would think humanity would learn instead of doing the same mistakes over and over.
Like what would people think if they one day were told the land they are living on is now not their anymore and is another country?
Exactly.I completely agree, arabs and jews lived together in Palestine for decades, the British and then the 2 cold war sides had to ruin all that.
Today it's even worse, as the leadership in both Israel / Palestine couldn't give two shits about their citizens.
Israel was created to be a refuge for Jewish people where they don't get massacred like in dozens of genocides through history. They have been pretty successful with that. The methods of achieving that goal are certainly debatable, but compared the state with their perpetrators is ridiculous.
I have enough history knowledge about the current crimes of the current Israeli government to say fuck them.I won't adventure myself in this discussion but I'm sure most people saying fuck Israel don't have any clue of the history of the country itself.
This topic had absolutely no hope of not going off the rails tbh.
I mean seriously did you want to have any discussion about this? For real?
OP literally created this thread to criticize Israel so thread is very much on rails.
No idea but irrelevant to the post I responded to.
"Their methods" are next to others illegal occupation, discrimination, and massacre. A refuge against massacre achieved by the same on a smaller scale. And not to mention it isnt even an actual refuge for all jews, considering things like the forced sterilization controversy. I dont think the user you quoted said anything outrageous.Israel was created to be a refuge for Jewish people where they don't get massacred like in dozens of genocides through history. They have been pretty successful with that. The methods of achieving that goal are certainly debatable, but compared the state with their perpetrators is ridiculous.
It's literally about a military using gaming for genocide.
Ah yes, every Israel related thread ends up with just fuck Israel post.
YepIsraelis deserve peace and freedom. They don't deserve an apartheid state with video game weapons. The Israeli government and military are very deserving of these fuck Israel posts.