I mean like I said, there's a reason for that. It's the same reason a lot of people in the US think Lou Diamond Phillips is Mexican
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Anya Taylor-Joy, a win for people of color! (According to Variety)(Up: Article changed see threadmark)
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I mean like I said, there's a reason for that. It's the same reason a lot of people in the US think Lou Diamond Phillips is Mexican
I've always assumed that "Latino/Latina" WAS an ethnic term - that Hispanic would be a larger cultural/lingual umbrella. The idea of being "white Latina" is new to me. If Hispanic is lingual, and Latin is "from Latin America," is there a term that would be applicable for "US residents with a brown complexion from a country in Central/South America" divorced from either of those? Like the equivalent of "mestizo" or what have you. I guess "brown" works, but when I hear that I imagine an umbrella that also includes, say, people from South Asia or MENA.
The US has a tendency of labeling people in ways that do not make sense.
Latino itself is a strange amalgamation of every single person south of the border, and even those from across the Atlantic.
Argentinians and Mexicans are pretty damn different, and we Spaniards (Antonio Banderas) shouldn't even be in there.
My wife's ex step father who was born in America and has Mexican parents, honestly thinks that Italians in Italy are 'people of colour". It does happen and I don't know why. Anyway I don't tend to make decisions on this stuff purely because as the whitest person I know (ginger hair and very white) it isn't my place to decide this kind of stuff at all.
I'm a light skinned Mexican, my brother and sister are darker skin toned , I'm a person of color as I would probably apply to a scholarship of that sort for example .
Its weird that if you look different from what people think that you should like, you're automatically white, even though you are not.
Because you can't get accepted because of how different your name is and the difference of your culture that is.
So no I'm not white just because I am light skinned.
Everyone from Latin America is Latino. That's literally the definition of Latino.
The problem here is that some people in the US don't realize that there are white Latinos.
Must be disappointing for her that she can't take certain roles that she might otherwise, due to her skin color.
I mean technically yeah lol. I'm probably mixing up latino and hispanic.
She's ethnic white European descent on both sides of the family, she's white.
Hispanic generally means someone is from Spanish speaking America.
EDIT: In the US, at least. In other parts of the world, it has a broader context as someone from Spain, or the former colonies of the Spanish Empire worldwide.
Yeah, I have family members on my mom's side and friends who 100% look white, with parents who are both dark-complected. It's kind of messed up that they come from households that largely represent the struggles and systemic bigotry levied against many people of color, are culturally Mexican, speak Spanish, self identify as Mexican POC, etc - but are often robbed of that self-identity due to them popping out differently than their other siblings.
But... that doesn't apply to Anya Taylor Joy.
She is, I'm saying the typical American thought process, which is that "Latino = not white", even if they identify as white, hence why I included the last part, which points out that Argentina is literally the whitest country in the entire Americas.
That applies to a very large chunk of Argentina in particular, doesn't make then any less Latino to be frank. They're just....white latino....
Well, she speaks perfect Spanish with a reeeaally heavy Buenos Aires accent. It's pretty fascinating considering she just lived there as a child.
I have no accent in English but I have enough of an accent in Spanish that native Mexicans can sometimes tell what part of Mexico my parents come from.
This reminds me of when people say "The West." They are generally excluding Central and South America...even though most people there speak a European language as their primary language and the countries are mostly Christian with capitalist economies and democratic governments.
This is pretty much the reason why "Latinx" is such a dumb term. "Latino/Latina" is already a broad (BROAD) generalization made so US society can put everyone in a box. Get 5 Latino people together and chances are they'll rather identify themselves due to their heritage ("My Dad is Mexican, my mom is Puerto Rican/Boricua") or where they are from ("I'm Chilean"), we kinda already HAVE to use "Latino" just so we don't have to deal with endless questions about it, specially from White People who are obsessed with the label.
"The West" is just an international political grouping (most recently) born out of the Cold War's 1st world (contrast with Soviet-led 2nd world and the unaligned 3rd world). It has nothing to do with language or culture.
The half that din't "retire" in Argentina went to live to the South of Spain.
PoC representation if/when it involves Latinos will include caucasians with respects to Hollywood/TV landscape imo. There's further caveats to consider on that front obviously but overall, Pedro Pascal being Chilean matters for representation.
There is a Sammy Sosa joke here somewhere, and I don't want to touch with a 10 foot pole.
Wait did they just not look at a picture of her at all or???? I get ignorant asses not understanding that Latino doesn't mean brown but like damn. She's clearly a white woman.
Conversely, there are tons more roles that would open up to her that wouldn't be available to darker skined Latina women. So I thinks she'll live.
LMAO, that's what happens when your understanding of race and ethnicity only comes from American pop culture
This is amazing. Somebody made a quick Wiki search on her background, saw "Argentinian" and the rest is history. Holy shit.
(I'm from Argentina btw)
(I'm from Argentina btw)
People are pretty ignorant towards South America. I admit that I didn't know much either until I started working for a small business run by a Colombian family 20 years ago. Also, hearing my Chilean in-laws talk about their country's rivalry with Argentina, and neighboring Peru, there's huge differences all around.
One day this Japanese girl shows up at the office, and I ask if I can help her. She opens her mouth, and there's that familiar heavy accent from the phone. I was surprised, but that's when I learned there's a huge Japanese diaspora in Brazil. The largest in the world
Yeah, I used to have this Brazilian coworker, and his girlfriend would often call, with a very heavy Brazilian accent, asking to speak to him.
One day this Japanese girl shows up at the office, and I ask if I can help her. She opens her mouth, and there's that familiar heavy accent from the phone. I was surprised, but that's when I learned there's a huge Japanese diaspora in Brazil. The largest in the world
Yep a lot of people in Latin America are Caucasian. It's almost like it's a whole continent plus central America, very diverse place.
I've always known it was a combination of freeing the slaves without any social parachute (letting them in extreme poverty) long bloody wars (the armies were sproportionally black due to their extreme poverty) and various epidemics (against who the black population had less medical help due to their extreme poverty).
I've seen the Brasilian national baseball team playing, and a world opened up before me. ;)
In some ways isn't doing that perpetuating the idea that lead to the creation of this article and the whole nonsense americans spout? That latin people look a certain way akin to race. This would also exclude black latin folks who suffer from this.