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I did see it on IMAX first time around. While it was disappointment, technically it was rather great. Nolan never disappoints there.
Anyone seen The Dark Knight Rises recently? It ages so damn bad!
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I also since last watching it at the cinema watched it last weekend and I was surprised at how.....bad I found it to be.
Dab on all you haters, that scene will always be my fav scene of any movie.
"Perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a man, before throwing him out of a plane."
"Perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a man, before throwing him out of a plane."
Its the worst in the series.....but I enjoy it more than any MCU or DCU movie. Warts and all I enjoy the tone of the Nolan movies.
First time I saw this piece of shit of a movie I was in denial.
I tried to watch it without subtitles back when my English wasn't that good, and I thought I hadn't understood the plot because I couldn't get everything.
But no, the film was just fucking awful.
I tried to watch it without subtitles back when my English wasn't that good, and I thought I hadn't understood the plot because I couldn't get everything.
But no, the film was just fucking awful.
I haven't seen it recently but I enjoyed.
What's wrong with that line?
What's wrong with that line?
I always thought it was just a boring movie.
The only major problem I have with it is that Nolan acquiesced to complaints about the prologue and fucked up Bane's voice in the opening. Hardy's delivery was so much better in the original version (and you can still hear a bit of it on "crashing this plane"). The new line readings were all for the worse. Don't know why Nolan couldn't have just tweaked the mix to make it sound clearer as opposed to having Hardy re-read the whole scene.
That, and the way Matthew Modine's character is killed off is really lame. There's footage on-set of Talia's Tumbler running him over and killing him that way, don't know why they just didn't use that version.
That, and the way Matthew Modine's character is killed off is really lame. There's footage on-set of Talia's Tumbler running him over and killing him that way, don't know why they just didn't use that version.
I was just thinking the other day that the intro to The Dark Knight is better than the entirety of The Dark Knight Rises.
The plot is horrible. No need to mention all the stupidity and inconsistencies, or the horribly directed action scenes. I was also bothered by the hero worship of police, from their Braveheart like final attack and it being made clear that they and Batman were the only ones who could save the city. Funny, the idiot police all went into the sewer together to get trapped. So much for recon. And they could have done away with the Robin character and nothing of value would be missed. The only highlight was Tom Hardy as Bane. Not as good as Ledger as the joker, but pretty damn good in his own way, especially given the material.
I didn't enjoy it in the cinema or at home. I thought it had tremendous potential from the trailers but it just felt rushed. Should have been a 2 parter really but I doubt Nolan would have had the patience. Also the fight / action scenes are AWFUL apart from the opener.
indeed. I remember being in that theatre watching it being blown away.
Take that Harvey Dent car flip scene. You can turn into Mr CinemaSins and say "how is Harvey walking around doing all this craziness when he just got out of the hospital" etc. But watching it, I'm always horrified that amid all the chaos and madness going on, there's this secret menace that has been created and let loose by the Joker for a while now that's slowly overtaking the movie.
You get several scenes of Harvey eliminating key members of the mob and corrupt cops, a once dangerous element consumed by this new evil: a good man turned bad. And what really filled me with dread is that you know eventually he's gonna get around to the good guys, and none of them see him coming. It's a battle they've lost before they know it's started. This makes that final standoff between Gordon and Harvey more tense and scary than horror movies I've seen.
So yeah the narrative value in that means more than nitpicking plot holes and other "mistakes". CinemaSinning has no value in evaluating storytelling.
Watched it a couple weeks ago. Still really enjoyed it and still find complaints about it pretty nitpicky. Opinions and all!
It sucked the first time I watched it, I have no desire to ever watch it again.
Batman Begins stays winning.
Batman Begins stays winning.
It is shit just like everything in the MCU but unlike MCU it at least has some decent cinematography.
There will maybe be one day when we get a blockbuster super hero movie that compares to the Matrix, Terminator, Aliens, Jurassic Park, Mad Max etc.. but we are just not there yet.
There will maybe be one day when we get a blockbuster super hero movie that compares to the Matrix, Terminator, Aliens, Jurassic Park, Mad Max etc.. but we are just not there yet.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding but you mention that you didn't like the movie on release and you don't like it now. I'm not sure how this is proof that it ages badly. Surely, the evidence would be more conclusive if you at least enjoyed it at first but, after time has passed, have found it lacking during a rewatch.
First post wins.
By the way I don't agree. While not as good as TDK it's still one of the finest superhero movies around. Despite its flaws, I'd rather rewatch that than generic colourful spandex superhero movie #243493.
I didn't like it when I first saw it. There are parts that are off. However, I've grown to see it as more of a rumination on anxiety on both a societal and personal level. I watched it a month ago with this in mind and found myself really enjoying it.
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I thought it was C movie at release. Disappointed, but not horrible. I thought it was terrible on rewatch.
Still better than everything DC has put out since, by orders of magnitude.
Still better than most Marvel films.
Still has a better villain than almost all comic book movies that came after it.
And that soundtrack... I still listen to "All Out War" and "Imagine The Fire" frequently.
Still better than most Marvel films.
Still has a better villain than almost all comic book movies that came after it.
And that soundtrack... I still listen to "All Out War" and "Imagine The Fire" frequently.
Terrible fight choreography aside the movie just had a stupid storyline. Every cop trapped in sewers etc just felt so poorly done.
You could tell Nolan was done with the trilogy.
Ok, I'm going to nip this one in the bud. Here's why such a ridiculous scene stayed in the film, and also how that stupid extra ruined a shot in Dunkirk: Nolan has an obsession with old school filmmaking and will not shoot digital.
So in the editing bay they look at the rushes and realise an extra ruined the shot, but they don't have the time or budget to go back and reshoot. So it stays in.
Talia's death stayed in for the same reason, and consider this: that was the best take they had! In another take she must have been even worse!
I don't blame her though, we all know she's a good actor, the director is at fault here.
That's because it was actually always bad. For as much as I love Batman Begins and The Dark Knight I've always felt like The Dark Knight Rises was abysmal trash. In my eyes this movie and Green Lantern were the start of DC's run of awful movies.
I don't know how you just rewatched it and missed that joke lol
I've just come to the conclusion that Bane was not a good character to end the trilogy on. I honestly think they should have stopped after Heath died. Nolan should have had the stones to refuse knowing full well he wasn't going to really give it his all.
Terrible fight choreography aside the movie just had a stupid storyline. Every cop trapped in sewers etc just felt so poorly done.
You could tell Nolan was done with the trilogy.
Good lord what is happening here
Yeah, it's not a bad movie but it's definitely too long. Doesn't need the scene with the two ferries for a start but in this day and age there's no middle ground between it's amazing and it's the worst thing I've ever seen. Saying The Dark Knight was alright doesn't get any reaction.
But Dark Knight Rises was genuinely shitty.
EDIT: Nevermind, it seems some people are saying The Dark Knight has aged poorly which clearly is incorrect! lol
It was ridiculous to start with. My friend and I actually burst out laughing in the theater when Blake's real name was revealed to be Robin, and I still laugh at the film today.
"Bring us strawberries!"
"Bring us strawberries!"
Yes I know that wasn't in the movie.
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It's no where near as good as TDK but that's only because TDK is probably the best superhero movie ever.
Despite the slight jumps required to suspend disbelief (why did all the cops go underground? How did Batman get from prison to Gotham so quickly? Etc.) it's still a really enjoyable movie.
TDK works despite it's plot holes because the Joker and Two Face were exceptionally well done and it's an exhilarating rollercoaster ride the first time round. It gets worse on rewatch because the second half is a mess. The boats and phone-hacking were a set-piece and sub-plot too many. It's still the best of the trilogy and by far the most iconic.
Batman Begins might be the most consistent, but it's also pretty dull. Scarecrow is underdeveloped. The climax is naff.
TDKR has some potential with hobbling Bruce Wayne and Cat Woman, but unfortunately misses every single note it needed to hit. A stupid plot, laughable villains, boring set pieces. It was always the worst film in the trilogy.
Batman Begins might be the most consistent, but it's also pretty dull. Scarecrow is underdeveloped. The climax is naff.
TDKR has some potential with hobbling Bruce Wayne and Cat Woman, but unfortunately misses every single note it needed to hit. A stupid plot, laughable villains, boring set pieces. It was always the worst film in the trilogy.
Exactly, it really gets all the hate because it was preceded by the best superhero movie ever. Had it been a standalone Batman movie, people would have called it one of the finest Batman flicks ever and one of the better superhero movies, too. I enjoy Marvel movies from time to time but I can't take people seriously when they say Marvel's movies beat any of Nolan's movies.
