Referral program courier service that is/was huge hereWhere did you buy this? On the black market? Or through some legal means?
No doubt. That's good but it's no longer why most people do itWell I don't know about youth, but vaping helped me quit smoking and eventually nicotine altogether.
What are they typically smoking up?
Even too much ass air will have a bad effect.What are they typically smoking up?
I guess like most have said in this thread anything by regular ass air is probably bad for your lungs.
only 70 more deaths this year to go until vaping is as dangerous as being around a lawnmower
What are they typically smoking up?
I guess like most have said in this thread anything by regular ass air is probably bad for your lungs.
and these are almost certainly some tainted, off-market cartridge people were buying from unknown sources.
while there is that possibility... where they were using this bad shit... because vapes have been on the market for what? 15 years?
it's also true there could also be the misdiagnosis as well where things haven't been linked to vaping when they should have.
but having this immediate jump in these cases and all being linked to vaping at once certainly paints the picture of likely off-market shit instead of vaping itself.
the ones I have right now that I immediately stopped using are TKO bootlegsMy immediate thought was that it was a bootleg THC cartridge, but who knows.
I stopped using THC carts a few months ago. Got one that burned my throat every time I hit it, and left me feeling hungover after a session. Think I got some bootleg trash. I'm in VA, so I was getting it from a source in DC that I thought was trustworthy. I think he legitimately didn't know he had gotten bootlegs. They were mockups of a legit brand, Wolfpack.
Glad you were able to identify that they weren't legit. I didn't know that bootleg carts were a thing when I first started vaping THC. More likely than not, I've burned through a bootleg. Until my state gets medical later this year, I'm sticking to flower.the ones I have right now that I immediately stopped using are TKO bootlegs
I actually had no idea until I read the articles about the hospitalizations and the guy said the extract looked "pee colored". I looked at mine to see that it fit that descriptor - it did - so I searched the name of the cart and the 2 out of the 3 first results were about bootlegs.Glad you were able to identify that they weren't legit. I didn't know that bootleg carts were a thing when I first started vaping THC. More likely than not, I've burned through a bootleg. Until my state gets medical later this year, I'm sticking to flower.
only 70 more deaths this year to go until vaping is as dangerous as being around a lawnmower
Except.... We don't know this because we have decades of cigarettes studies, and we only have a couple years worth of vape ones. Also as others have said, there is a lot of variation in what a "vape" can be. It could be certain flavoring or color additives that are the problem, the levels of nicotine, thc, etc or a mix of any or all of the above.Of course.
...but it's better than inhaling cigarette smoke, which is why most people start doing it.
It's difficult to imagine it being worse. Every medical assessment I've seen says basically that. Cigarette smoke is absolutely terrible for you.Except.... We don't know this because we have decades of cigarettes studies, and we only have a couple years worth of vape ones. Also as others have said, there is a lot of variation in what a "vape" can be. It could be certain flavoring or color additives that are the problem, the levels of nicotine, thc, etc or a mix of any or all of the above.
And of course we don't know if 20 years from now, any form consistent hot vapor applied directly to the lungs could be just as bad or worse.
You're good. The scary thing about vape carts is how prevalent bootlegs are. You're just using flower, right? Very different methods.This makes me nervous considering I just bought a dry herb vape for weed at Tokyo Smoke in Toronto. I'm still pretty new to using that vape in general but this is definitely off putting. Though I think the article mentioned THC cartridges, so I'm not sure if it's the same thing.
I got that as an alternative to using paper because I hate the burning sensation when I smoke a spliff.
Yeah I'm just using the dry herb, grinding it up and putting it in my vape chamber. I have one that was made specifically for dry herb.You're good. The scary thing about vape carts is how prevalent bootlegs are. You're just using flower, right? Very different methods.
Isn't it kind of obvious that inhaling anything other than oxygen is probably not very healthy over the long term?
All of the articles on this are vague. And some contradict others by saying some of the 195 people who have become ill from vaping were vaping THC carts. Other articles say all people who recently got sick were vaping a mix of products. Which is it?This article is hilariously vague. I mean it's clearly just a bad batch of knockoff "THC" cartomizers filled with shitty pesticide laced synthetic weed suspended in some sort of oily or lipid filled substance but that's not as scary as being like FIRST VAPING DEATH omg warn your friends. Vaping PG/VG/nicotine isn't going scar your lungs overnight to the point you wake up intubated. This is clearly down to people vaping extracts of questionable nature and source
Good luck dude. I started mixing my own, I cut 3mg with 0mg so I'm getting ~1.5mg. Cuttwood had a 1.5mg premade but they stopped making it, I should have stopped then hahaI'm really trying to commit to quitting at the end of the year. My nic level is down to 3mg, so I'm confident I'll be done.
Thanks, good luck to you as well.Good luck dude. I started mixing my own, I cut 3mg with 0mg so I'm getting ~1.5mg. Cuttwood had a 1.5mg premade but they stopped making it, I should have stopped then haha
Wow dude you're so cool, people with addictive vices are just so dumb amiriteimagine living through decades of anti-smoking propaganda but then falling for Big Tobacco's latest fancy millenial marketing trick: cotton candy apple pie smoke.
giving money to groups that want to kill you and think youre an idiot.
Bet he's a hit at partiesWow dude you're so cool, people with addictive vices are just so dumb amirite