Apple Event set for March 8th 2022
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No, this sits between the Mac Mini and Mac Pro. They specifically said Mac Pro is still to come.
Sitting right next to $1400 24c/48t Threadrippers and ~$1400 Xeons. That's just Multi-core, the single-core is near consumer CPUs. Insanity. I want to see what the Mac Pro will be powered by.
This is fucking insane. Thats the same MC score as my 3970x TR on something that fits in a backpack, goddamn.
Ohhh, gotcha. Thanks all. Interesting, I guess the Pro will still have modularity. Probably the first "M2" chip too.
Shipping estimates are already slipping to April and mid May mere hours after they opened the pre-orders.
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Shipping estimates into May for Mac Studio and Studio Display- 9to5Mac
Pre-orders for the Mac Studio and Studio Display are open just hours after Apple's spring event and shipping estimates are already into May.
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Truly...who are these machines for?Shipping estimates are already slipping to April and mid May mere hours after they opened the pre-orders.
Shipping estimates into May for Mac Studio and Studio Display- 9to5Mac
Pre-orders for the Mac Studio and Studio Display are open just hours after Apple's spring event and shipping estimates are already into May.
They specifically call out the Mac Pro at the end of the presentation as being on the way, so that will likely be with the M2 family of chips.
Since Mac Studio is seemingly replacing the Mac Pro in power, the right question is: Who is the next gen Mac Pro going to be for?
These M1 Macs are bringing back the mystique of the early-to-mid '90s exotic UNIX+RISC workstations... except they're not $50,000.
I was just typing the same thing, for the price this machine is going to be very popular in the industry it serves and probably well beyond where the mac Pro was popular (especially due to price).
But if it is more powerful than a Mac Pro at a fraction of the cost it is going to take something special (and I assume cheaper than previous models?) for the Mac Pro to be a competitive proposition.
I guess the flip side is that performance improvements/ the improvements they make to work flow may justify a much higher cost even for relatively small performance gains for the highest end users.
Edit: based on the below it seems it will be double.
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I think they'll do a big mini update with the M2, the current chassis is mostly empty because it's basically just an intel box with the guts swapped out.
So they may revamp the line a bit when they next update them.
I've been eyeing a M1 Mac mini for a while now to get into personal video editing (I already edit for work), should I keep waiting for an update or just jump in sooner than later?
I know some people would say just go for it, since there's always going to be upgrades, and I'd just end up waiting and waiting for whatever is rumored to be next or next after that.
I know some people would say just go for it, since there's always going to be upgrades, and I'd just end up waiting and waiting for whatever is rumored to be next or next after that.
So this leak has been proven true so far. The M1 Ultra is the Jade 2C-Die. The Mac Pro is gonna have the Jade 4C-die, which is literally 4 M1 Max's ducttaped together.
I wonder what they'll call it lol
How many gamecubes is it though?
Pretty solid. But I got serious Infamous First Light vibes from the light trails.
the Mac Studio is much cheaper than the 16" macbook pro M1 Max I got, with the same specs. Like way cheaper.
that's the way to go IMO, 32 core GPU and 64GB RAM, and I'd add on a non-apple display, because i have seperate camera, mic and speakers for my desk.
I'm was in the same boat as you but for different reasons and ended up biting on the latest 14" MBP Max with maxed-out specs.
FYI my work is mostly related to sw engineering with some UI design involved. I imagine that for video editing, every extra bit of juice is going to make a noticeable difference and will extend the life of the product.
At some point you just have to draw the line between the equipment you need for your workflow today (and lasting you the next several years) and how long you are prepared to hold out on your current setup for the increase in specs. My 2016 MBP was still chugging along, but occasionally hindered my productivity. It was time for an upgrade, and the 14" MBP came along at just the right time. If you're still coasting with your current equipment then it might be worth waiting for the next bump, but right now the machines are absolutely cutting edge and blazingly fast.
I'll probably be satisfied with my machine for the next 5 years, but won't deny that I am going to be extremely jealous of owners of the next-generation MBP, even if the difference it'd make to my own workflow would be marginal.
Whatever your decision, you're in a good place as a pro consumer. Until the most recent refresh, it was dark days being in the market for an MBP.
Just wondering why you went for gloss over nano?
E: sorry for the double post. Thread moving slower than expected.
They definitely had to cannibalize some products last fall due to the shortages but Apple is locking down these production lines years in advance. Chip makers probably love the consistency and volume too
I'm not saying I'm laying down the dough for multiple Studio displays, but theoretically could you daisy-chain two of them to a MBP that supports multiple displays? I've done this before with the 24" UltraFine, but it has two thunderbolt ports per display.
Having to connect two thunderbolts to the MBP every time to use both is exactly the kind of first-world problem I don't want to have for $3k.
Having to connect two thunderbolts to the MBP every time to use both is exactly the kind of first-world problem I don't want to have for $3k.
I guess you would need a thunderbolt dock for your MBP. With 2 thunderbolt cables going out from it to the monitors.
This mac display can't be using the full 40Gbps of the thunderbolt can it? It's 5k 8bit 60fps isn't it? So each monitor would be using around 18-20Gbps I think.
Would be good to see it tested.
Shipping estimates are already slipping to April and mid May mere hours after they opened the pre-orders.
Shipping estimates into May for Mac Studio and Studio Display- 9to5Mac
Pre-orders for the Mac Studio and Studio Display are open just hours after Apple's spring event and shipping estimates are already into May.
Lmao. No surprise. The Studio is a great product with tremendous power. It was going to fly off the shelves.
Besides the new iPhone SE they just announced yea it's always September annually
Thanks for the confirmation. I think the Pro is what I'm going with then.
Well, they probably also have a small supply of chips. My M1 Macbook Pro just shipped yesterday, and I ordered it the day it was announced.
these don't support daisy chaining. Only have one thunderbolt port.
What Apple has done in the last 10 years with their CPUs and GPUs is really remarkable.
These are essentially mobile chips that give you desktop power. And they are keeping up an incredible upgrade rate.
I didn't think it was possible for Apple to catch up and possibly surpass the big boys so quickly in the GPU and CPU space.
Can't wait to see what they do over the next 5 years and what everyone else does to try and beat them.
This whole transition has been blown my mind. I've always been PC, even though I used Macs here and there. When the M1 mini came out I bought one just to try it out, and it became my main machine even though I had a 3k PC. I recently bought an 16 inch M1 Pro and switched to that and I'm still blown away that I'm using a laptop as workstation and it's virtually silent.
Basically a lot of people who got the nano on either the XDR or iMac were dissatisfied with the blur it produced. Apparently it's also very delicate and easy to scratch (hence the fancy cleaning cloth). I think if you're set on a matte screen it's probably the best one you can get, but it's not magically equivalent to a glossy screen in clarity. Since glare isn't that big an issue in my office I decided to play it safe and stay glossy.
Ngl kinda like that Apple doesn't price the prosumer stuff anywhere near an affordable price. Keeps me from being like "HMMMMMM should I spend a few hundred more to get stuff I'll literally never need just because?!" When it's $1000-1500cdn for a Mac mini or MacBook Air that will 100% do all I need vs $2500 *minimum* for a base 14" or studio… well that's a definite no.
God bless vertical integration. I was a Mac naysayer back around the time of the iPhone 4 and only started to warm up to it when they released their Retina Macbooks. And then I understood what it meant to pay the 'Apple Tax' because it really is a nice tightly controlled experience and I care a lot about battery life!
There's almost certainly missing products here, because that never used to be the case. You'd always be faced with conundrum of whether to buy a low-end product with options or paying an extra couple of hundred for the next product up, but the pricing gulf between the consumer and pro line is absolutely massive now.
I can't believe there isn't going to be a 27" iMac or a desktop between the M1 Mini and M1 Max Studio. Nobody's going to option a 16/512 Mini and look at the Studio and think "It's only another 900 bucks, I'll go for that".
Thanks for the input. After some research and with your feedback, decided to settle on a gloss display and cancel the matte. Glare annoys me in the morning, but it's not that bad. Clarity is more important.
Thank you! I can wait a few months. My battery life is slightly annoying but mostly because I doomscroll all day.
That's where I fall. I don't need the studio, but I would have loved a M1Pro desktop somewhere in the mix.
It's weird that they've used all their chips in desktop computers EXCEPT the M1Pro. And there is a huge gap, in both performance and price, between the Mini and the Studio where it would sit quite comfortably.
I can't buy the Mac Mini for work just because of the RAM. CPU should be fine, but I need 32GB. Maybe the M1 Pro will be added later, I mean it's missing in the Studio lineup, so there is still hope I guess
Just a heads up, if you missed early orders / still deciding, the best place to most quickly get a Studio after release will be B&H Photo. For example they've had many configurations of 14 and 16 inch MBPs available for one day delivery for a good while now (that are 1 month+ from Apple)
Best Buy also had a couple of configurations available when they were sold out everywhere else.