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Aquaman Tomatometer and Review Thread (Update: Currently 64%)
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They are not "superior films". They are trash, and most people outside fandoms think that.
Wonder Woman gets praised for the same reason most of Marvel Studios films get appraisal: they are good blockbuster films. If one day you are able to step outside a fandom driven mind, you'll perceive that. That DCEU films other than Wonder Woman have been trash isn't really simply an opinion, but the general common sense.
It's okay to like those films, it's okay even to like them more than "Marvel Studios" films, but claiming critical bias is absurd.
Like I said, you can call them trash, I think they're still better than the Thor films. Thor 2, in particular, is an absolutely atrocious film.
I didn't even know it was a thing until this thread, but yes, this sounds stupid.
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Thor 2 is the worst reviewed Marvel Studios film, and for good reason. I still like it better than any of the DCEU films other than Wonder Woman só far, but saying that the DCEU films other than Wonder Woman are better accomplished films than Thor and Thor: Ragnarok is just flat out against the common sense among critics and public.
It's okay to like bad films, Thor 2 is a mess of a bad movie but I still enjoy it. It isn't by no means better than Wonder Woman or the other MCU films tho.
Warner Bros doesn't have enough controlling stake to do that but add that to the conspiracy list
It's boring and safe but it's competently made and told. The plot stands on its own.
6.2/10 average on RT seems about fair for it.
One tweet from 2015 where she uses the n-word (not a hard -er too) and they declare her horribly racist ? Or am I missing something
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OF COURSE that DCEU hardcores would attack the reviewer. Gross. And I wouldn't put behind them to take a tweet out of context or worse, making shit up. The tweet doesn't seem to exist, btw. And the fact that they went through her twitter feed to try to make her look bad is even more infuriating.
Obviously doesn't make using the word better, but a guy in the comments says that's a line from a song she's quoting in the Tweet there too. Pretty sure there's no racist intent here. Though expect this to get shared by by AmazonianSonOfZodWayne or whoever for the next few weeks, especially if this doesn't score as highly as they want.
Mr. Rottentomatoes' scheme to post 2/5 reviews for movies using a reviewer that said the N-Word one time in 2015 on Twitter has been exposed. It was the biggest conspiracy known to man and Tom_Draws has exposed it.
The hero the DCEU deserves.
Again, I'm not defending using the word but this is straight up insanity. They probably organizing a harassment campaign on some discord server rn.
Long as she aint got a long ass history of saying nigga it a fuck up and move on thing. We all know only reason dudes are doing this is cus she gave a rotten review, which probably makes them worse than her
It's not hard, and yes, I would say that lady or anybody that uses the word casually is a racist, whether it was in 2015 or not a hard "er".
It's even possible she has since apologized. I would say that you'd need more than one tweet 3 years back to try and argue some kind of racist agenda here as that guy is trying to do though.
ok but again, these are the same critics who gave Nolan's films and Wonder Woman high marks. So unless there's a selective anti-DC bias going on in the film critic community, I don't know what the point of "they haven't had their scores hammered the way DC's movies have" is. They can only like the movies they like.
Also, timing matters. I thought the first Thor was fine but I also definitely enjoyed it more when I saw it in 2011 than when I rewatched it this year. No doubt some of these movies benefited from coming early on in the glut of post-2008 superhero movies. But the genre has expanded and diversified and gotten generally more interesting since then. Standards have changed, and something like that first Thor would probably not be as well-received if it were released exactly as is for the first time in 2019. Which is why I get weary when I hear reviewers compare Aquaman to a phase 1 Marvel movie. "Phase 1 Marvel movies" were 6-7 years ago!
I hardly think whether someone thinks a movie is good is a matter of common sense. It's as much an opinion as anything else. General consensus =! objective truth.
There is a narrative. Once this narrative is established it's pretty difficult to remove. The narrative is that Snyder movies and some DCEU fans both suck . It is true.
Snyder movies are often not that good and DCEU fans suck but I fear this inherent bias built as a result of this narrative seeps into other movies . Now suicide squad was the worst of DCEU. I fear that because of this narrative the hurdle of passing the "im going in expecting to nitpick it apart considering how bad it might be " inherently lowers the score a few percentage points below its deserved value
Snyder movies are often not that good and DCEU fans suck but I fear this inherent bias built as a result of this narrative seeps into other movies . Now suicide squad was the worst of DCEU. I fear that because of this narrative the hurdle of passing the "im going in expecting to nitpick it apart considering how bad it might be " inherently lowers the score a few percentage points below its deserved value
The narrative has existed for a lot longer than that. They didnt make a good non-batman movie between Superman (1978) and Wonder Woman (2017)
If you think the AO Scotts and Richard Roepers of the world are walking into a DC movie with this chip on their shoulders, I don't know what to tell you. This "narrative" is total projection. Most critics are not operating in this world and don't care. In fact, many of them would probably be fine if they never saw another superhero movie again.
As it is, there have only been two non-Snyder DCEU movies released anyway - one of which you yourself said was the worst of the lot, the other which received some of the best reviews of any superhero movie of the past decade. So fears about this "narrative" seeping into other DC movies and inherently depreciating their RT value don't seem justified so far. If anything, it feels like a premature excuse for explaining away any potential bad reviews Aquaman may get - even though the movie might get good reviews anyway!
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This is the most important thing.
Originally I said 80%, but I think it's just good to have a decent movie from DC again.
As a critic posting an Aquaman review on RT tomorrow I can assure these fools there's no "agenda" out for this movie or any DC movie lmao.
Considering social media embargo has lifted and era is a form of social media. Give your social media impression
"As a critic posting an Aquaman review on RT tomorrow. I can assure. Agenda. For this movie. Any DC movie. We're also racist." - shaneo632
The last trailer is what the general public liked the most tbh and tbh most people have liked all the trailers.
I hope it's good for the people looking forward to it at the very least. Even if I end up not liking it myself, like with Wonder Woman for example (Holy moley does that film fall apart in it's last act, Ares is awful.), I can't take away from the people that did really enjoy that film. Worst is if it's a bad or a mediocre film (Although I wonder how Aquaman ends up Mediocre, this feels like it's either a really good or really bad situation considering the trailers) then those looking forward to are much more likely to have a bad time and leave disappointed by it.
Huh? Spider-Verse is coming out a week earlier for one. And two, it's already making a killing overseas. Where have you been?
Spider-Verse is out this weekend. Aquaman is next weekend (but the Amazon Aquaman screenings are Saturday night).
Barring advanced screenings, isn't Spider-Verse officially releasing on the 14th and Aquaman the 21st?
I think the fact that Spider-Verse is a quite artsy and non Pixar animation will put a ceiling on it that word of mouth will have to fight. Hope to be wrong.
Not the same weekend
And Aquaman will take the weekend it's released, reviews mean nothing
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