As he runs from SEC, Musk hurls latest Boring Company distraction
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Are you saying you don't like public money being spent on transportation projects, or you don't like private companies using public funds to build transit?
But the fact that that early on they were able to make major strides should've made it obvious that it was possible, it just needed better tech and more effort.
So it isn't really SpaceX did something that was *impossible*, they just were the ones who had the time and money after the tech had matured. It's not like without SpaceX that innovation wouldn't have happened--someone would've eventually done it. SpaceX just happened to try to do it before them.
I'm a huge proponent of public transit and spending money to make those projects happen. I just think when you are talking about a transit project whose primary goal would be a huge boon to a private entity (like non-stop trip to Dodger Stadium), that private entity should put up some funds to make it happen as well. The public shouldn't be the only one to put up the money to make something happen while the Dodgers owner gets to reap the benefits of it. The same goes for a proposed aerial tram in Inglewood that would connect the region's Metro rail line to the new football stadium. The Rams/Chargers owners should at least put up some capital for that as they'll be the primary benefactors of that project.
This is particularly true of sports venues as any stations near those will only be active so long as a season is on-going (save for random events that get booked here and there) and would be pretty desolate for a good chunk of the year. It's why I suggest just extending a planned line as there would be a lot of use of a line that connects Glendale and Los Angeles; a stop near Dodger Stadium just happens to be along that route.
Ahh ok, I get what you're saying now. It basically boils down to the same problem we all have with stadium funding.
Studies show fewer people attend games they expect the home team to lose.
The best solution is to make the Dodgers a worse team.
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Correct.
"Everybody said it was impossible" is complete bullshit considering multiple companies were trying it.
23 years later, SpaceX managed it. No shit. Look how much tech moves in 20 years,
The 1993 model was probably running on a highly classified state of the art PlayStation2 prototype.
I fee like we're just days away from Musk going on an acid fueled rant and announcing that he'll fund that Last Jedi redo project.
And let's not forget how he's saving the planet be relocating all the rich people to Mars! The first step to fight overpopulation. What a hero
like in Tokyo...?
I don't know, how much attention does he want?
"I'm hiring James Gunn to direct a movie about Tesla I wrote!"
Multiple companies were trying it. They all failed. Every prototype before Space X did it failed. It's why after the big failure of the successor program to the video you linked, most companies stoped trying to do it, favouring other cost saving research and alternative reusable components.
At that point in time, the concept was for all intents and purposes "impossible". Mainly due to the amount of money that would have been needed to throw at the program until they got it working. Money that for the other companies was better spent optimizing other parts of their businesses.
Come in SpaceX who dedicated entirely towards the concept of reusable rockets, to the point they almost went bankrupt. Got it working, got it to orbit, started using it for actual payloads and then perfected it on the final mile.
Basically you can have all the research in the world, but without money and a willingness to put it I to practice and take things Into the most expensive step of the medium-final miles, it might as well remain impossible.
So all in all, the Engineers behind SpaceX worked wonders and managed to do what everybody else failed at achieving. You are not allowed to underplay them and undervalue their work just because you don't like Musk.
Granted, maybe I should have used "Impractical" vs "impossible". But that is an English choice, colloquially they are swapped out in this field of science and technology. And it doesn't undermine my entire point.
This is not even proof of concept, more like crude public prototype. Except as OP points out this makes zero fiscal/practical sense, which runs antithetical to the basis for this venture. It certainly smells of distraction and lack of judgment.
Any day of the week and without question I would trade American style public transit, Intercity rail, and airports for the privatized operations of East Asia, Western Europe, and southern Florida.
I mean the pieces of American transportation infrastructure that do not suck are:
-private rail freight (best in world)
-air travel
The best subway systems in the world are on the ring of fire.
Yeah I mean if it's only a 4 minute trip it's not impossible. I don't consider it efficient but I mean... Oh well lol. I don't even know.
...and today I learned that not only does LA have subways (Which I should know already since I have watched a movie and seen it but oh well) but also that Tokyo gets Earthquakes. (I know Tokyo has subways... That's where you level up by reading books when you find a seat.)
So I will go take my foot out of my mouth. I think you guys have this thread covered as far as insight goes lol.
You didn't know Tokyo gets earthquakes? The entire planet gets Earthquakes...
Lmao.
Elon Musk's Employees Posed as Ordinary Citizens at His Dodger Stadium Community Meeting
https://www.si.com/mlb/2018/08/29/elon-musk-dodger-stadium-tunnel-community-meeting?
Of the 9 people who spoke, 3 were SpaceX employees (but didn't feel the need to mention this.)
The entire Twitter thread is pretty lol.
Elon Musk's Employees Posed as Ordinary Citizens at His Dodger Stadium Community Meeting
https://www.si.com/mlb/2018/08/29/elon-musk-dodger-stadium-tunnel-community-meeting?
Of the 9 people who spoke, 3 were SpaceX employees (but didn't feel the need to mention this.)
The entire Twitter thread is pretty lol.
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That kid's nephew looks like a great kid, rocking that Pikachu jacket looking hella fresh.
I'm just going to quote my earlier post in this thread, because what else can you say at this point
I'm just going to quote my earlier post in this thread, because what else can you say at this point
There's no "we". If ever Musk manages to get people on Mars, you can bet your arse such an occasion will be reserved for those with money first and foremost, and not the common folks such as "us".
LA has had a subways since the 1920's actually. We had the pacific electric system that went all over LA county and had subway stops and tunnels. The trains ceased full operation sometime in the late 50's.
You can thank the motor industry for that. Such a tragedy
