have you seen the 'touch me while your bros play grand theft auto' lyric
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Attempting to post this as delicately as possible...thoughts on this line in Taylor Swift's new song?
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In the song that is specifically about her feeling like she is in highschool again that is not that weird.
What? The entire point of those few lines is pointing out how shitty that time was. That taking all that shit stuff away basically ruined the entire concept of wanting to pretend to go back to those times.
Posts in this thread are wild, like congratulating each other for these takedowns that aren't even reading the content correctly?
i wasn't trying to imply it was weird, i'm implying its a bad lyric
Guess that's just up to personal opinion.
In a song that is specifically about feeling like you're in high school and it talks about watching American pie, etc etc. It's not that bad of a lyric to me.
If it was out of the blue in a more serious song then I would agree.
Not really a huge Taylor Swift fan or anything, but I don't get why this would be controversial. Bad song lyrics, maybe but I don't find them especially problematic.
Seems to me she's saying that the game of looking back at previous eras is bad because most people are looking back at those time periods as idyllic while ignoring the problems that existed in that society hence why saying this would kill the game for her friends. Seems really odd to me that people are interpreting this as her saying the 1830s would be a great time period to live in.
Seems to me she's saying that the game of looking back at previous eras is bad because most people are looking back at those time periods as idyllic while ignoring the problems that existed in that society hence why saying this would kill the game for her friends. Seems really odd to me that people are interpreting this as her saying the 1830s would be a great time period to live in.
The line gets criticized on the internet for the exact same reason she herself brings up as a counterpoint to the first line right in the next lines within the same verse. It's the internet and current media literacy in a nutshell, to see a line taken out of context and starting a whole discussion as if the next lines don't even exist, which of course would make the previous line problematic.
Never listened to a Swift song by choice in my life, btw.
Never listened to a Swift song by choice in my life, btw.
It's not uncommon to hear people say that the 70's or 80's were better times when the world itself was a much more difficult and poorer place lol
This controversy feels pretty manufactured
There's a bunch of TikToks talking about this with people "reacting" to the lyrics out of context and it's obvious that the vids are just trying to drive views and the comments are already from people that don't like Taylor
There's a bunch of TikToks talking about this with people "reacting" to the lyrics out of context and it's obvious that the vids are just trying to drive views and the comments are already from people that don't like Taylor
Nothing weird about those lyrics, people force themselves into getting offended. The context is crystal clear, she wants to live in a time described to her through fantasy as a perfect time for lovers but the reality is that the time in question was pretty rotten to.
It's a very clunky sounding line, but the intent seems fine when it is specifically calling out how nostalgia blinds people to the issues with the past.
It's the Antebellum (pre-Civil War) South era, which is very idealized in the south.
Ex: Taylor Swift is a wealthy white woman from Tennessee--she almost definitely has had friends who got married on plantations.That's almost explicitly what Swift is saying with the lyrics, they're nostalgic for that period but would say "of course we don't like slavery, but look how beautiful the building is!" (literally 1830 without the racism) but of course that's just a blatant whitewash because the plantation wouldn't exist at all without slavery.
no don't feed your golden retriever bf chocolate taylor he's going to die
greatest lyricist of our time lmao. also CHARLIE PUTH????
The point is getting engagement online. Reality is irrelevant.
Probably because she has a body of work to pull from that spans nearly two decades and she does not actually "throw out clunkers like this all the time."
Kurt Loder. Instead of asking her about it off camera he sprung it on her that she had a line that ended like "...with such casualty." He's like "that's not what casualty means" as if poetic license hasn't resulted in the repurposing of words since time immemorial.
ok i have read the grand theft auto song, it's not that bad but it does read like fanfic from a high schooler written on a glittery journal, which... is perhaps the point.. not sure... like is the title of the album "tortured poets" about emo kids that write things like "you hurt me like a rose, i kiss your flower but touching you hurts"
the other curio is "you know how to play ball, i know aristotle" like yeah aristotle is perhaps the philosopher name that a high schooler knows, but i have to say this does not read like an adult dexterously writing as a younger person
but i won't really listen to her music anyway so this exercise is pointless and i'm not interested in meanness coming from simple curiosity, so as aristotle said "let dragons lay" or some such
no don't feed your golden retriever bf chocolate taylor he's going to die
greatest lyricist of our time lmao. also CHARLIE PUTH????
Isn't Charlie Puth very popular? I can't imagine Matty Healy being into him lol
I can't even tell which posts in here are serious or sarcasm. Feels like a lot of haters just wanting to find something to stir up here just like on Twitter and TikTok.
I'm pretty sure that's the entire point of the lyrics though. She's not whitewashing the 1830s by saying they would be fine without the racism and sexism. She's saying the 1830s suck and games like this where people look at the past through nostalgic and idealistic eyes are childish, naive, and stupid.
The song is called 'So High School', it's pretty obvious it's the point. It's about how being in love with Travis is making her feel like she's in high school with a new boyfriend again.
The lyrics suck imo, but if people like her music that's fine, personal choice on what people like in music etc.
Putting aside the lyrics being weird or dumb to me, the line itself on its own sure sounds bad, but then that's what happens when you remove context from actual things being said. There seems to be an coming thing these days with taking one line or two out of a paragraph that gives those lines context that's perfectly fine and then acting like there's a huge issue because the context has been removed.
Don't remove context from things said if you have an issue with them. It's fine to have issues with what's said but if you want others to have a comment on it too then don't go around stripping context from it and expecting others to not treat it as click bait etc.
Putting aside the lyrics being weird or dumb to me, the line itself on its own sure sounds bad, but then that's what happens when you remove context from actual things being said. There seems to be an coming thing these days with taking one line or two out of a paragraph that gives those lines context that's perfectly fine and then acting like there's a huge issue because the context has been removed.
Don't remove context from things said if you have an issue with them. It's fine to have issues with what's said but if you want others to have a comment on it too then don't go around stripping context from it and expecting others to not treat it as click bait etc.
Are people being deliberately obtuse lol Does media literacy disappear for some people when it comes to Taylor Swift?
They definitely would, because people are intent on finding the worst possible interpretation of what others say.
It would also entirely change the context of what she's saying if she did that.
I wouldn't say it's obvious, but i don't really know her work, the only song i actually know is Shake It Off, and with that song in mind it seems like that's just how she writes and the adolescent style can just as well be her style instead of another part of the artifice. But again. My posts are dismissible because i'm not invested or investing in this enough to say one way or the other.
I figured the song 'So High School' that you picked up sounded like it was written by someone in high school with the lyrics...
...would be kinda obvious that it's written about how being in love is making her feel like she's back in high school. Maybe I'm just so used to her lyrics that I can decipher it though.
You need to have a high IQ to understand Taylor Swift lyrics, apparently.
Hum, i can tell what the song is about....
So this is what being subtweeted feels like
My favorite part of the album, which I have not made it all the way through, is that she seems very mad her ex was a pothead.
no don't feed your golden retriever bf chocolate taylor he's going to die
greatest lyricist of our time lmao. also CHARLIE PUTH????
These "opinions" are always cribbed from X (Twitter). Era just follows.
I'm surprised more people aren't catching this. The 1830s is squarely in the Antebellum period. When people are romantic over "the Confederacy" what they're likely actually romantic about is the Antebellum period, i.e. the period the Confederacy was formed to preserve. And of course that romantic vision of the Antebellum South is one that scrubs all of the evils of the period away, leaving behind a period of rich white folks living their own form of high-class life in their rich plantations with all their rich clothes.
A girl wanting to live in "the 1830s but without the racists"....is a girl wanting to be Scarlett O'Hara. Maybe not the actual character so much as the general cultural image of her. Old-fashioned as hell but Swift's still got country roots so it tracks.
And it's all before the Civil Rights movement. Honestly it's all "not a good time" no matter where you put your historical marker.
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