Yeah I guess IW Thanos was actually holding back all the time. Endgame Thanos was a god damn nightmare.
Avengers: Endgame |Spoiler OT| Let's go get this son of a bitch
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Yeah I guess IW Thanos was actually holding back all the time. Endgame Thanos was a god damn nightmare.
Yeah, but that is kinda consistent with what the writers said, because an infinity stone was removed in the process. Eh, I'm fine with both interpretations but it's fun to talk about!
IW Thanos doesn't seek to kill. Just get these clowns out of his way so he can fulfill his destiny.
Endgame Thanos is fucking mad at these people and he doesn't want them to undo his snap, so killing is the goal.
Endgame Thanos is fucking mad at these people and he doesn't want them to undo his snap, so killing is the goal.
Also 2014 Thanos becomes filled with rage when he realizes that the universe would hate what he has done rather than be grateful.
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Multiverse theory has always been there. The Ancient One mentions it a few times. But not many people liked Doctor Strange so they tend to gloss over it and think it's not canon or
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Yeah. Brolin did a great job at making 2014 Thanos feel totally different and way more frightening.
The Ancient One isn't an expert on any kind of science and Banner admits that it's not his field. That's also before the whole plan is blown when Loki escapes. Everything about the project is experimental. As far as I'm concerned there are allowances for bending/breaking any rules they've laid out.
My personal objection to "the rules" is that Cap living in an alternate timeline to live with an alternate Peggy doesn't sound romantic at all. You also have to accept that there are millions of doomed timelines and The Avengers intentionally made more vulnerable by taking their gems.
Aaanywaayys, in Endgame alone there are 2 forms of time manipulation. Who says there can't be more, and that they can have different repercussions?
I'm not sure the Loki timeline is going to go better or worse
This made me laugh out loud. Was great to see Korg and Miek again.
I want them to make another Thor where they play a big part. Also would love to see a Valkyrie movie.
I would look at it like this. 1 Groot is certainly a unique creature and no normal man so it may be that he is just capable. 2. Like you said the weapon wasn't done yet so that could explain it. 3. Groot, by making his arm the handle, is part of the weapon which might then also explain him being able to wield it in a future story.
I think a lot of it was seeing that he succeeded in the future, and that instead of the grateful universe he was expecting, they were actively working to undo all that future him did.
Well it isn't really an alternate peggy. It's more like he goes back which then branches off at that point. So the peggy at that time is the same peggy, just living in a different timeline. I suppose you could argue it's not the same person but you could also argue it is.
The thing that bothers me is why this film shows Steve Rogers seated on the bench after returning the stones rather than appeared on the platform. Only if we admit that it was an oversight by the filmmakers, then I can accept your theory.
I also don't understand why Loki escaping with the tesseract has any impact to the story. Returning the stones will, as Steve Rogers said, "clip off the branched timeline". Once he go back to the 70s (the earliest timeline in this story) to return the tesseract, any alternate timeline will only exist in memory.
If what Markus said is correct, then those timelines aren't alternate timelines (because the stones were returned and there are no more branches). They're all accurate, all of it happens within the primary MCU. Two Steve Rodgers, Loki escaping, Tony meeting his dad, all of it.
Which is nonsense, that's not what happened.
Why would returning the Tesseract to the 70s change that Loki took it in 2012? That 70s timeline now leads to Loki.
No. Actually you're both kind of wrong.
The timelines are created as soon as you travel to the past. Even if you return the stones all the smallest things you do, like your presense, is enough to branch that timeline. But since time is handled by the stones, they are needed so that the time doesn't get wack in that timeline which is why they needed to be returned in the first place.
The 70's timeline and the 2012 timeline are 2 different branches.
The lyrics perfectly describe Tony Stark.
Dear Mr. Fantasy play us a tune
Something to make us all happy
Do anything, take us out of this gloom
Sing a song, play guitar, make it snappy
You are the one who can make us all laugh
But doing that you break out in tears
Please don't be sad if it was a straight mind you had
We wouldn't have known you all these years
And yeah, I've been listening to it since I heard it was in the movie weeks ago.
I mean, I like Mackie. But his characters looks like the kind of guy you always want to have around at a barbeque or a night out. Not the guy you'd follow to your death on a battlefield.
They need to work on him.
Thor told the Gaurdians of the Galaxy that the dwarves couldn't make weapons for them because they "simply don't have the strength to wield them... [their] bodies would crumble as their minds descend into madness.
So, it makes sense that Cap gaining Thor's power from the Mjolnir enchantment is what allows him to wield Stormbreaker.
Thanos can wield Stormbreaker because he has the natural strength to do so, just like Thor.
Young Groot didn't wield the weapon, he just picked up the head of the axe.
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So it's obvious that it was a panicked move, but how did they intend to use the van? Just throw the gauntlet in there and have it stuck in the void? It might be better than the immediate alternative of Thanos using it, but it would kind of make it difficult for them to return the stones.
Which Avengers is this from?
Holy shit! This could work, especially since it was 3 times that the snap happened on Earth. IW, Hulk, then Tony.
Ancient One is a Master of the mystic arts. Science, the Mystic Arts, and Magic are all bound by the same rules of the Universe- they are just different levels/paths to applying these rules.
There's nothing to suggest the rules are flexible- other than viewers wanting them to be because it would allow their prefered narrative to be cannon.
There aren't two forms of time manipulation. There is just one- enter the quantum realm, then exit the quantum realm at desired point in space-time. There are two ways to enter the quantum realm 1) a machine 2) shrinking via pym particles
Also, why isn't Cap living in an alternate reality to be with the woman he loves "romantic"? I mean, he went back and undoubtedly took huge risks without any knowledge of whether or not the relationship would actually pan out- and it ended up lasting 70 years!
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It wouldn't be the same Nat and Tony. They'd have to convince them to leave their own realities and jump to the future, skipping out on several years of their lives to be with versions of people they don't have the same bond with. Why would they want to do this rather than stay with their current lives and defend their own timelines?
Ultimately Thor has to be responsible for his own life. Korg thinks he's being a friend, he's not intentionally bringing him down. And you know he's on a completely foreign world trying to fit in so probably just following Thor's lead. When Asgard needed help he was there fighting and again at the end of Endgame he was fighting for everyone, he's a good guy.
I keep thinking about the soul stone on Vormir.
When Thanos got there with Gamora in IW I thought Red Skull/The soul stone tailored that ' soul for a soul' for Thanos alone and it made sense but in Endgame it was the exact sacrifice and it kinda made it kinda fall apart and it raises a lot of questions.
Nat and Clint conveniently go there together, what would have happened if she went with anyone else?
If you have to give up what you love most, shouldn't hey have tried to throw each other off the cliff instead of trying to safe each other and trying to sacrifice themselves?
Does it matter if you're the one giving something up or if the other does the choice for you?
At one moment I expected Red Skull to step in and say something like "alright, I get it you both have what it takes, here's the stone"
When Thanos got there with Gamora in IW I thought Red Skull/The soul stone tailored that ' soul for a soul' for Thanos alone and it made sense but in Endgame it was the exact sacrifice and it kinda made it kinda fall apart and it raises a lot of questions.
Nat and Clint conveniently go there together, what would have happened if she went with anyone else?
If you have to give up what you love most, shouldn't hey have tried to throw each other off the cliff instead of trying to safe each other and trying to sacrifice themselves?
Does it matter if you're the one giving something up or if the other does the choice for you?
At one moment I expected Red Skull to step in and say something like "alright, I get it you both have what it takes, here's the stone"
One thing crossed my mind about Nat and Hulk/Banner saying they tried to bring her back. If he did bring her back he wouldn't know if he did or not and since her body was on Vormir wouldn't she be stuck there? I mean I guess Cap would have saw her when he took the stone back but IDK.
It seems like an obvious setup, but I won't like it because it'll pretty much retcon all the mutants history (eg: magneto ww2 etc..)
I suspect something would need to change either way - the problem with Magneto being tied to WW2 is that in 2019 (or further, counting the time jump) he'd potentially be over 70 years old already unless you do a X-Men First Class and set it in the recent past. Which doesn't automatically diminish his threat, but you run into casting question marks (for a franchise), ripple effects in narrative (Prof X will also need to be a similar age) and other factors that need to be looked into to keep it 'modern', unless you add in reduced aging as a side effect for some mutants (which then affects the perception of Wolverine's ability etc).
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I think this is more cause he was trying to get Natasha back. He says as much later that he couldn't get her back no matter how much he tried.
Watched it again in Dolby. One thing I noticed. At the end during the dance. with Peggy. The door is ajar. It's not closed. So that would seem to imply that Cap JUST got there.
People apparently left their doors unlocked or open all the time according to the oldies
Coincidence is the most basic tool of storytelling. Why show two events in separate scenes when you can tell the story better with two events in one scene? You may also notice that the time it took Scott to get out of the quantum realm, five years, has interesting implications for the younger characters, and that by a further curious coincidence most of the important narrative characters at Peter's school were snapped.
Wouldn't count on it. Tony is dead for keeps, probably. Gamora may already be back, Natasha is kinda still around for at least one more film, and quite frankly I doubt she'll stay dead. Loki has his own series on the way.
Why would he? They weren't planning on using it more then once.
I first assumed it must be related to a commercial product called Iron Man 3000 that Morgan had heard advertised on television. My mind works that way.
Checking just now I can confirm that there is an item of weight training equipment known as the Ironman 3000. It's probably just a coincidence. I can't imagine a TV ad for a gravity inversion table featuring the phrase "Love you 3000."
I've been thinking about what it's like to be snapped. Imagine you're Peter, you're snapping in the arms of Tony, then nothing but darkness and oblivion. One second later you're back, and Strange is telling you it's been five years and we need to go help Cap against Thanos.
Peter: "....wat."
I can imagine other movies or TV episodes handling it in many ways. Imagine a time lapse of someone being snapped, when they come back the entire neighbourhood around them has suddenly changed.
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It has a rather sad, elegaic quality, fitting to the unfolding of horrific events at the start. I really hope it wasn't chosen because it contains the phrase "Make it snappy."
Pete is surprisingly chill, actually. He wasn't the least bit taken aback when Stark told him an alien was trying to steal a necklace from a wizard. I guess after aliens invade New York you just kinda go with it, whatever it is.
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