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Axios: 11 members of Congress argue Sony is unfairly hurting Xbox in Japan
- Thread starter Arubedo
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Who was he talking about when he mentioned people that make big revenue but don't make games?
The latter. FTC solicited feedback from gaming companies and this was an output
So Microsoft can buy any publisher because Sony has more market share. Sony can't outbid Microsoft on any studio because Microsoft is one of the richest companies on the planet and now Sony can't even make any deals with Japanese developers because they don't sell many consoles in Japan. Nintendo basically has a monopoly in Japan.
So much for we just want to expand gaming. Sounds like they want to use their war chest to crush Sony.
So much for we just want to expand gaming. Sounds like they want to use their war chest to crush Sony.
They publicly denied it but im fairly certain their written statements echoed it. Just another example of everyone involved talking out of their ass
Seems like regardless of whether you even buy into this rhetoric, Sony opened themselves up for this after their silly behavior during this whole ABK saga. I'd be surprised if this leads to much of anything substantial though, Japan never cared much about Xbox.
Sony is not market leader in Japan .
Plus how is it Sony fault MS can't sell there system there over 20 years when other USA companies do good.
I can understand that this part is damning, but that does not necessarily mean that it's obvious. If it was a bit more blatant, I would be criticizing Microsoft as well.
i do wonder what business practices they're referring to then because...it does somewhat reek of lobbying, especially considering all that's going on with the AB acquisition
IDK what would even be the ask. Just not allowing Sony to secure exclusive game contracts? Studios could still make exclusives, if they chose to, but just not sign exclusive deals like with Deathloop, Ghostwire, FFVII, etc, if those games can be made on an Xbox? Like how else can "non-discriminatory treatment of digital products" be applied? Just Japanese studios? Just distribution in Japan (meaning you could sell a Japanese version of FFVII on Xbox...? lol)
When he said it, Valve? Lol
But for real, the Google Play Store and Apple probably.
Microsoft had internal documents (as well as testimony in the Epic/Apple case) that showed that they competed with Sony and Nintendo, but Nintendo "to a much lesser degree".
Microsoft fought hard to include Nintendo because it would've been an easy slam dunk to show that a platform doesn't need CoD to be successful. Sony said Nintendo was for kids and serve a different audience than Sony/Microsoft.
Nah. This is just MS being extremely desperate to have some publicity wins to close ABK deal. MS not supplying Japan with more than 15 units/month vs Sony struggling to chart in top 10 games list in declining home console market is not exactly a fierce competition.
It could very well be lobbying, but we don't know yet. I would rather wait until one of the center says "we were talking to Microsoft and —" instead of some of these remarks that sound like angry Sony only folks.
They arent denying it is enough. For most people to realize that this is clearly a lobbying full court press and I dont think anyone can be denying this, id be saying the same thing if a congress person was coming out in support of sony directly or nintendo. Its all lobbying which has been a totally insidious industry esp in the US.
You do understand what lobbying is and that it happens, right?
Well, these regulators are viewing this from the "high end console market" that the FTC, CMA, and EC laid out. In that case, Sony dominates like 98% in Japan. In any other market a company with "98%" market share that is buying the most anticipated product for that market in that region would be superrrr anti-competitive.
Of course, there are more things to consider like Nintendo but none of this exactly surprises me. I expect at the very least an EU investigation into the gaming industry in the future, especially since the EU the "high end console market" is 80/20 PlayStation.
I mean Sony kind of got this ball rolling with their duck tales to the regulators.
Not sure if this will go anywhere but here for the ride none the less.
Not sure if this will go anywhere but here for the ride none the less.
"We want a bigger share of the 60,000 'high-end console' units sold per week in Japan" is a pretty pathetic thing to go to war over. Like nobody in Japan wants to buy expensive consoles or software to play on them right now. It's a dead market.
I don't deny Sony has been heavily lobbying in the UK and other markets. Both of these companies are fighting hard because they have a vested interest to do so. Pointing it out isn't console warring.
It's quite obvious what Microsoft is trying to do here that even Stephen makes the connection in his tweet thread lol.
I don't know why, since I care so little about this in the grand scheme of things, but all this console war nonsense between the two really stress me out.
Sorry. I know that's probably really weird and off topic, I was hype for the acquisition to succeed/fail soon, so I'd hopefully have to see shit like this less.
Sorry. I know that's probably really weird and off topic, I was hype for the acquisition to succeed/fail soon, so I'd hopefully have to see shit like this less.
Why would you ever expect that? You're waiting for something that wouldn't happen
Sorry this is what i meant. Basically saying what they needed to say to their audience bssed on what they wanted them to hear. They weren't consistent with what they were saying. Sony doubling down seems to have screwed them here although there has to be some real evidence to make a claim like this
Lmfao it's small because they didn't terrible job with pushing into that market.
They have a point. The ABK deal is essentially what Sony is doing in Japan. They are obviously the leader in the Market Sony defined and likely gained that foothold due to those exclusivity contracts. If Microsoft doesn't matter in Japan why pay to make sure they don't get games . If it's okay for those games to be exclusive then why wouldn't it be for CoD in the west?
I mean even this article came out damn near a year ago.
How Microsoft Became Washington’s Favorite Tech Giant
President Brad Smith has taken an amicable role with regulators. Rivals say he also directs negative attention toward them. Microsoft’s Activision deal, under FTC review, will test the strategy.
www.wsj.com
its not any secret.
I see this as MS setting up the stepping stones for them for to acquire a Japanese Video Company in the future.