Banjo Kazooie in Super Smash Bros Switch, is it actually realistic?
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Their justification for giving Banjo the N&B design was the dumbest shit ive ever heard from a developer.
"Well we DID make an HD banjo model but it didnt look retro enough so we needed more hard edged geometric designs"
So you went from this
To this
Imagine if Nintendo did this to mario in the transition to Sunshine, Galaxy or Odyssey.
10 years later and those designs still look incredibly unappealing if not outright ugly.
The Jinjos look alright though, I will admit, as do a lot of other characters like Humba Wumba.
Still, the rationale that cartoony N64 characters could not possibly transition well into HD gaming without embracing some grotesque caricature of blocky fifth generation character design is straight up bullshit. We've seen characters like Fox McCloud and Donkey Kong transition just fine.
Imagine if during the Gamecube days, Rare or Namco came to the arbitrary conclusion that Fox "doesn't look right" rendered using sixth generation hardware and instead went for a strange hyper-retro look.
Imagine Fox not looking like this...
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...or even like this...
...but something like this...
Microsoft's already tried putting Goldeneye on the Wii, Nintendo of Japan said nope. Maybe times have changed tho.
The only reason they tried that was because they needed Nintendo for it to happen anywhere.
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I don't see Conker happening. His games never came out in Japan from what I can tell, and even in the rest of the world, they were never published by Nintendo.
I dont see your face happening
edit: sorry, that was fucked up. Hes more likely than Sans though
So here's my dream representation for B-K.
B: Rat-a-tap-rap
B>: Breegull Blaster (Goes from Normal->Fire->Electric->Grenade Egg, longer you hold it.)
^B: Shock Jump
VB: Drill Bill
Smash ->A: Kazooie Slam
Smash VA: Pack Whack
Smash ^A: Flip Flap Jump.
Meteor Smash: Ground Pound
Dash A: Roll.
Final Smash: T-Wrecks. Transform into an unflinching, hard hitting TRex that is slower than mollases. Even turning takes time.
Assist Trophy: Mumbo Jumbo. Fires a beam straight forward that places a random negative status effect on whoever it hits, friend or foe.
Stage: Furnace of Fun 64. Battle field-like layout, but the twist is that the background displays smash/nintendo/rare trivia. Step into the light that represents the right answer on the battlefield first for either an slight attack/defense boost or a small amount healed. Ignoring it does nothing too you, but you're punished if you choose wrong. (Lessened Attack/Defense or small amount of damage.) Final destination variant has rare characters participate in the quiz in the background instead.
Music:
-BK Main Theme (Remix)
-Stage Medely (Remix) (TTC, GV, FEZP, MMM, RBB)
-Furnace of Fun
-Jinjo Village (Remix)
-WitchyWorld
-Boss encounter medley
-Humba Wumba Theme (Remix)
-Cliff Farm
-Spiller's Harbor
-The Nuts and Bolts Hub World Theme
-Spaceport Alpha (remix)
-Hot Top Volcano (remix)
-Windy (remix)
-Great Mighty Poo (Remix)
-Perfect Dark Medley
-Battletoads Medley (remix)
-Speccy/NES Medley
-Blast Corps Medley (remix)
-KI Main Theme
-Star Fox Adventures Medley
Trophies:
BK: Banjo, Kazooie, Mumbo, Gruntilda, Bottles, Tooty, Blubber, Boggy, Klungo, Furnace of Fun Stage, Humba, Jamjars, Jinjo King w/Jinjos, Mingilla/Blobella, HAG-1, Bozzeye, Mecha Gruntilda, Jolly Roger, Trophy Thomas, Lord Of Games, Piddles, Redesign Humba/Mumbo.
Rare: Conker, Berri, Greg, Beardy, Panther King, Weasel Mafia Boss, Joana Dark, Skedar, Elvis, Rash, Zits, Pimple, Princess Angelica, Turbo Tunnel Bike, Saberman, Sabre Wulf, Jetpac, Kuros, Solar Jetman, Snake from Snake Rattle and Roll, Thunderfist, Cinder, Spinal, TJ Combo, Horace Horsetachio, Mr. Pants.
Taunts: Pulls out Gameboy and Plays. Kazooie taps Banjo on head, who then gets annoyed. Takes out Banjo and strums.
Victory theme: Grabbing 10 Jiggys in a world jingle.
B: Rat-a-tap-rap
B>: Breegull Blaster (Goes from Normal->Fire->Electric->Grenade Egg, longer you hold it.)
^B: Shock Jump
VB: Drill Bill
Smash ->A: Kazooie Slam
Smash VA: Pack Whack
Smash ^A: Flip Flap Jump.
Meteor Smash: Ground Pound
Dash A: Roll.
Final Smash: T-Wrecks. Transform into an unflinching, hard hitting TRex that is slower than mollases. Even turning takes time.
Assist Trophy: Mumbo Jumbo. Fires a beam straight forward that places a random negative status effect on whoever it hits, friend or foe.
Stage: Furnace of Fun 64. Battle field-like layout, but the twist is that the background displays smash/nintendo/rare trivia. Step into the light that represents the right answer on the battlefield first for either an slight attack/defense boost or a small amount healed. Ignoring it does nothing too you, but you're punished if you choose wrong. (Lessened Attack/Defense or small amount of damage.) Final destination variant has rare characters participate in the quiz in the background instead.
Music:
-BK Main Theme (Remix)
-Stage Medely (Remix) (TTC, GV, FEZP, MMM, RBB)
-Furnace of Fun
-Jinjo Village (Remix)
-WitchyWorld
-Boss encounter medley
-Humba Wumba Theme (Remix)
-Cliff Farm
-Spiller's Harbor
-The Nuts and Bolts Hub World Theme
-Spaceport Alpha (remix)
-Hot Top Volcano (remix)
-Windy (remix)
-Great Mighty Poo (Remix)
-Perfect Dark Medley
-Battletoads Medley (remix)
-Speccy/NES Medley
-Blast Corps Medley (remix)
-KI Main Theme
-Star Fox Adventures Medley
Trophies:
BK: Banjo, Kazooie, Mumbo, Gruntilda, Bottles, Tooty, Blubber, Boggy, Klungo, Furnace of Fun Stage, Humba, Jamjars, Jinjo King w/Jinjos, Mingilla/Blobella, HAG-1, Bozzeye, Mecha Gruntilda, Jolly Roger, Trophy Thomas, Lord Of Games, Piddles, Redesign Humba/Mumbo.
Rare: Conker, Berri, Greg, Beardy, Panther King, Weasel Mafia Boss, Joana Dark, Skedar, Elvis, Rash, Zits, Pimple, Princess Angelica, Turbo Tunnel Bike, Saberman, Sabre Wulf, Jetpac, Kuros, Solar Jetman, Snake from Snake Rattle and Roll, Thunderfist, Cinder, Spinal, TJ Combo, Horace Horsetachio, Mr. Pants.
Taunts: Pulls out Gameboy and Plays. Kazooie taps Banjo on head, who then gets annoyed. Takes out Banjo and strums.
Victory theme: Grabbing 10 Jiggys in a world jingle.
I'm not sure if I'd go that far, but Sans is incredibly unlikely as it is. Hasn't quite earned it a place in Smash, either.
Microsoft was on board with it on Sm4sh too. I also wonder how much of it is PR to look good because saying "That will never happen." sounds too douchey.
Reviving this thread if it's alright,
I ploughed through it only to read comments like:
- They'll never make it if Donkey Kong isn't even better represented...
K. Rool got in
- Anything but Ridley is possible
Ridley is in as well.
Seeing as pleasing the long time fans seems to be a trend right now how much do you guys believe Banjo Kazooie have a chance now?
I would like to argue that for the first time ever Rare at least got some recognision at last.
- Krystal design is from Adventures (still property of Nintendo I know)
- K. Rool's final Smash is a direct reference to DK64, could have been an attack from a pirate ship as well but they chose this one specifically.
I ploughed through it only to read comments like:
- They'll never make it if Donkey Kong isn't even better represented...
K. Rool got in
- Anything but Ridley is possible
Ridley is in as well.
Seeing as pleasing the long time fans seems to be a trend right now how much do you guys believe Banjo Kazooie have a chance now?
I would like to argue that for the first time ever Rare at least got some recognision at last.
- Krystal design is from Adventures (still property of Nintendo I know)
- K. Rool's final Smash is a direct reference to DK64, could have been an attack from a pirate ship as well but they chose this one specifically.
To me, they're all but confirmed.
Would be a great push for MS to finally pick up the slack again and make a game again instead of cameos.
But yeah, up to Nintendo
Please elaborate on the history with Nintendo of these characters. And regarding Kratos, please elaborate on the relationship between Nintendo and Sony when compared with Nintendo-Microsoft.
If you can't see the difference you're intentionally blind
I could see phoenix in, but I haven't really seen a demand for it.
No. Third party characters from a competing console are an entirely different can of worms than long shot characters Nintendo owns internally.
Banjo and Kazooie won't be in it, and they shouldn't be.
Banjo and Kazooie won't be in it, and they shouldn't be.
Prior to K Rool being announced I saw people saying it wouldn't happen because he's a western made character, Rare made him, etc. Basically dismissing him because they had perceived notions about how Sakurai picks characters.
It's very much possible. Ultimate seems to be made of dreams, so you know what? I have a feeling that Banjo & Kazooie will make it in.
Hell, Geno will make it in as well.
Hell, Geno will make it in as well.
Different can of worms indeed, but licensing is licensing. Nintendo renewed the license they had for Snake from Metal Gear Solid for example. I don't see how negotiations would differ if it would benefit both parties is some way.
That inclusion would benefit competing hardware. That's the difference.
Nintendo has made it very clear they're willing to work with other companies and cross promotion. They have also shown a good relationship with Microsoft for cross play for what that's worth. Microsoft has already said they'd allow it. Nintendo does not appear to see Microsoft as a competitor like how Sony/Microsoft do. (let's be real the switch is pretty much its own thing)
It's still quite unlikely but it's definitely possible. I would love to see it.
It's still quite unlikely but it's definitely possible. I would love to see it.
Do you honestly expect a million people to buy an Xbox because Banjo got into Smash? lol. If Sakurai wants Banjo, he'll get Banjo.
Does a Nintendo 64 Classic partnership count as competing hardware?
Anyone else from Square would have been great. I've always wanted to see Sora but I can't imagine what that liscensing process would be like with Disney involved. Still, he's been on a lot of Nintendo systems at this point and crossing over into other worlds is totally his thing. Plus his fighting style and weapon would be an awesome addition. Sora would be a perfect Smash char.
Microsoft would actually have to be making Banjo games first. The series is pretty dead.
Please don't bump old threads. Especially when the topic can be discussed in the Smash Ultimate Discussion Thread.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/su...peculation-sakurais-fountain-of-dreams.60812/
https://www.resetera.com/threads/su...peculation-sakurais-fountain-of-dreams.60812/
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