And that's on Steam alone, not counting sales elsewhere like Oculus Quest.
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Beat Saber VR has sold 1+ million copies on Steam (SteamCharts)
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Is beatsaber the best selling vr only game ever? Any other vr game that may sell more than beatsaber?
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Since GDPR update to Steam that made profiles private by default, the way SteamSpy got more accurate data was broken.
But they did?! Imagine Dragons and Panic at the Disco packs came out in the last few months.
more or less yes
also he said he was going to keep working on it, but then didnt (but still makes a bunch of money on his patreon selling the more detailed data from the new, worse algorithm, more than $14 thousand a month), and now he works for epic as their "director of publishing strategy" (i think thats what its called) so he kind of abandoned it anyway (which for the record i dont blame him for, even though it kind of sounds like i am earlier in this sentence)
many months ago valve said they were "soon" going to provide more data to essentially make much more accurate estimations of sales, but knowing valve that will come in something like 3 years
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It seems that that was something we misunderstood and that Valve meant better tools for developers to see engagement between different methods of PR / clicks, rather than make a "Steam Spy-Valve edition". Cant find where they say that but I think it was in an interview this year.
as far as I know it was the first one
super hot vr was at 800k back in april so it is likely near 1 million as well
I'm really not into song packs since they amount to mostly stuff I don't want. I would love to be able to purchase individual popular songs/levels though. I think they would get way more revenue this way.
i tried to word it carefully because i remember headlines going nuts about 'steam making their own steam spy' when they barely said something that maybe could be interpreted as a different api or something super simple. i think the words 'data pipelines opening up' were used, whatever that means
i hadn't heard that it might be only for devs but that wouldn't be super surprising I suppose
Yeah, i also fell into the hype but rereading the statement after they explained it (and the improvements on data management on Steam from devs in the last year), you can notice what they meant.
Still, yeah, SteamSpy numbers are quite off on the regular and the fact that he is still having a Patreon for them (while working for a competitor) just gives me a bad taste in the mouth.
About Beat Saber, great game and great modding community, so the success is deserved.
Why wouldn't it be? more and more people are getting VR headsets and the pitch "it's like guitar hero but instead of a guitar you are cutting blocks with light sabers" excites a lot of people lol
and it's a very low barrier of entry to have someone try. Even people who don't normally play games can figure out how to swing a sword at a block :P
My music > what someone else thinks is good music. Especially when we're talking about exercising.
Yup. I'm really not a fan of any of the music in Beat Saber, and probably would have stopped playing if custom songs weren't a thing. Though most of the custom songs are I've tried are not well designed, and the procedurally generated maps in Audio Shield are often better.
I don't think it was a choice, I think it was a "We're a small startup, we can't afford licensed, well known music". Once they started to get big, they were finally able to afford more commercial licenses. And I'd bet that's what Facebook is going to do now they own the company, pump it full of cash to get lots and lots of licensed music.
I do wish Beat Saber had a generate beatmap feature because quite honestly, the majority of the official Beat Saber songs are very not my style and the same goes for what the community makes. And then a large portion of the community made beatmaps for songs I like are pretty poorly done. That said, the stuff that is my style and is well done is just sublime. Back in my extensive Audiosurf days, being able to load in a CD and play through a whole album on 2 player mode with a friend was a real treat.
a generate beatmap feature would likely work worse than the poorly done tracks.
that being said them having such a feature and linking it up with say spotify wouldn't be a bad thing, but I wouldn't use it.
my solution is going to be I'm just gonna eventually map songs I want to play myself lol.
Complete baloney. Audiosurf was doing it halfway decently in 2008 and everybody loved it. Audioshield was very competent at giving you things to punch to the music. I think a company with financial backing from Facebook will be alright in making something that works decently. Beat Saber is more difficult in that it has aspects such as walls, bombs, and beat positions and directions to contend with, but something passable can definitely be done. Perhaps you underestimate how poorly laid a lot of handmade tracks are.
I mean. I'm sure there are plenty of terrible maps.
I don't know why you would ever install them though as the community to beat saber is amazing and it's very easy to find positively rated tracks which are all likely better than what an auto gen would feel like. (if you see a song with more thumbs down than up then just pretend it doesn't exist. it's really that easy :P aka for me the poorly done songs are the ones that are at a near equal ratio not the actual mostly negative ones. Obviously an autogen could do better than someone who spends 30 minutes throwing notes randomly around)
getting the notes on the right beat is only part of the battle in beat saber. Getting them to flow well is a completely different thing.
you might be able to design something decent, but I never found audiosurf to be satisfying with it's autogeneration.
I haven't tried audioshield yet, but if it's on par with audiosurf it would be utter rubbish compared to any decently done beat saber map.
You're close to understanding it. The majority of well made, highly rated tracks are not songs I care about. And then there are many instances where a song I'd like to play exists and seems competently mapped, but only exists on Expert+. I really can't understate the utility of just loading up an album and having a game to play while I listen to it.
Shield is definitely a better showcase of this than Surf because in Shield you're expected to hit things on beats as opposed to matching blocks which doesn't necessarily require you to do things rhythmically to still be fun.
There are very few songs available for some genres, and the ones that exist often have only a few ratings. And some of the songs I've played that were highly rated by the community have some very unnatural movements with poor flow. And as Ionic mentioned, many of the songs I'm interested in, that are highly rated, are only available on Expert+, or the creator's "Hard" difficulty is significantly more difficult than Expert difficulty on the base songs.
I have definitely had a better experience with AudioShield than most of the levels in Beat Saber, largely due to being able to actually use music I like, and knowing the experience won't be complete garbage.
I mean, I said in my post " that being said them having such a feature and linking it up with say spotify wouldn't be a bad thing, but I wouldn't use it. "
aka I understand the appeal of such a generator if you really just want to listen to some of your music while doing something that gets you moving around.
and I do know the pain of a lot of songs being only expert+ that you would want to play. I can do expert just fine but most expert+ are beyond me so a lot of tracks I would want I can't play (at least not without no fail on)
I just don't trust an autosong generation method for something like beat saber. All it really takes is a handful of notes to be slightly off for me not to want to play a song in beat saber again. I doubt an autogen would be that good that I would enjoy it.
but again it would be a nice feature to add for people who are alright with just mediocrely done tracks as long as they are songs they love. (which I do have a couple like that on my list)
I can get that as the vast majority of the music in beat saber doesn't appeal to me either. But for me as long as the song is not complete garbage, having a well mapped track is vastly more important than it being a song I like.
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isn't something I would ever put on my music playlist, but it's actually a lot of fun to play with faster speed clicked on (aka 130% speed)
If I'm not mistaken - SteamCharts is seperate to SteamDBs "Steam Charts", so I am not sure if it should be appended.
SteamDBs tracking is updated more frequently than SteamCharts.
Audioshield has had API issues out the wazoo sadly. First it worked with Soundcloud, then Youtube, now nothing. Having autogenerated tracks was really amazing though, hopefully Beat Saber can have something like that in the future.
there's no real reason for them to discount beat saber. It's the go to VR game right now.
I got a question for everyone: I tried to disable updates to Beat Saber in order to not mess up my mods, but won't it just try to update once I launch it again? The problem isn't that custom songs continue to work, but that mods like the song browser keep breaking when the game updates so often. I've actually gotten disheartened from playing a few times because I could no longer sort the tracks the way I wanted to.
One of those is me! Great game and one of my favorite VR titles so far. The game has some amazing mods for it too. Very well supported.
