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Ben & Jerry's cofounder Ben Cohen has donated over $1 million to an organisation aimed at ending military support for Ukraine

knight714

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Sad to see. Also this is undoubtedly going to be used to attack Ben & Jerry's principled stance in boycotting Israeli settlements
 

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jon bones said:
what is a tankie?
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"Tankie is a pejorative term which originally referred to those members of the Communist Party of Great Britain that followed the Kremlin line, agreeing with the crushing of the revolution in Hungary and later the Prague Spring by Soviet tanks; or more broadly, those who followed a traditional pro-Soviet position."
 
Kusagari

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They just honored Aaron Mate from The Grazyone. Ben and Jerry have sadly gone full tankie.
 
Xando

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Always a sign you're doing something right when tankies and far right unite against you
 
Temascos

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I supported their stance against what Israel is doing against the Palestinians, but this is just dumb.

The only way the bloodshed ends is if Russia LEAVES, gives back the kidnapped victims and begins to pay war reparations. If they were allowed to take Ukraine do these guys think it'll stop there? Next would have been Moldova, without a doubt.

Yes, war could have been prevented. By Russia not invading a country that wasn't doing anything wrong. It's all on them.
 
Memento Mori

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Approached about his role in backing the group, Cohen told The Daily Beast: "I think the U.S. should use its power to negotiate an end to the war, not prolong the death and destruction by supplying more weapons
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A statement like that makes it look like Ukraine is the agressor. Russia is the one keeping the war going.

Tobor said:
Guess I'll stick with Haagen-Dazs.
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It's always been the superior ice cream, they don't just stick biscuits in every tub.
 
GrantDaNasty

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What a shitty position to have. By this factor, Cuba, Vietnam, Kuweit should've all just keeled over to their invaders rather than accept assistance from other super powers.

"I just don't support this proxy war" THERE WOULD BE NO WAR IF RUSSIA DIDN'T ATTACK UKRAINE. NONE OF THIS WOULD'BE HAPPENED IF VLADIMIR PUTIN WOULD'VE JUST FUCKED OFF.

But no, Russia "just can't help itself", it MUST defend its interests, we can find 10 000 reasons to OK that while decrying "western imperialism".

How about all imperialism is bad, INCLUDING RUSSIAN?

Hmm…Maybe? Maybe??
 
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perfectchaos007

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It's a shame because some of their business practices are progressive. For example I remember reading a decade ago that no one in their company makes a six figure salary, but as a result everyone on the ground level from the warehouse to the CFO makes a livable wage (upper 5 figures). I'm sure due to inflation some positions are low 6 figures now, but everyone in the company makes roughly the same amount of money that they can all live on.

Sucks that they support Russia. Fortunately there's no shortage of premium ice cream options at the grocery store. Don't sleep on Baskin Robbins in the freezer section of your local grocer
 
Tobor

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Desi said:
why not buy small-batch ice cream at your local farmers' market? I mean they may be far right trump supporters but it could be cheaper than megacorp Haagen-Dazs/Ben & Jerry's and tastes better too.
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You're assuming I have a farmers market near me that sells ice cream. I've never seen ice cream there.

I do go to local ice cream shops for a scoop, rather than Dairy Queen.
 
julia crawford

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Hmm. The argument seems to be that the support should shift from military assets to diplomatic assets. I'm not an expert on war/diplomacy in times of war so i can't comment on this, but the argument doesn't seem to be dropping support to leave Ukraine fending for itself.

And a lot of non interventionist, we spend too much logic that is a bit suspect but this seems like it's anti war and anti war participation first and foremost. But that's from reading just this article.

I'd like to know why so many posters are saying that he supports Russia.
 
His Majesty

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Tobor said:
Guess I'll stick with Haagen-Dazs.
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General Mills, owner of Haagen-Dazs, used a production plant on illegally annexed Palestinian territory for 20 years. They ditched it last year after heavy activist pressure. Although they stressed it was purely for economical reasons. So yeah, maybe pick another brand.

mondoweiss.net

How activists got General Mills to dump its Israeli settlement factory

Michael Arria speaks with the AFSC’s Economic Activism Director Dov Baum about the successful Pillsbury boycott campaign, and what comes next.
mondoweiss.net mondoweiss.net
 
GrantDaNasty

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julia crawford said:
Hmm. The argument seems to be that the support should shift from military assets to diplomatic assets. I'm not an expert on war/diplomacy in times of war so i can't comment on this, but the argument doesn't seem to be dropping support to leave Ukraine fending for itself.

And a lot of non interventionist, we spend too much logic that is a bit suspect but this seems like it's anti war and anti war participation first and foremost. But that's from reading just this article.
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The diplomatic option is "Russia, please leave Ukrainian territory". I haven't exactly seen Russia make any efforts towards that goal.

I guess the NVA should've used diplomacy to end the Vietnam War instead of escalating it via military action.
 
Tobor

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His Majesty said:
General Mills, owner of Haagen-Dazs, owned a production plant on illegally annexed Palestinian territory for 20 years. They ditched it last year after heavy activist pressure. Although they stressed it was purely for economical reasons. So yeah, maybe pick another brand.

mondoweiss.net

How activists got General Mills to dump its Israeli settlement factory

Michael Arria speaks with the AFSC’s Economic Activism Director Dov Baum about the successful Pillsbury boycott campaign, and what comes next.
mondoweiss.net mondoweiss.net
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None of these companies are saints. As was said above, Cohen doesn't even own Ben and Jerry's anymore, Unilever does. And I'm sure Unilever has some issues as well.
 
Guybrush Threewood

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There is no ethical ice cream consumption unless you squeeze the milk out of the cow yourself. And even then, she's probably mad at you.
 
PeskyToaster

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Dictator said:
lol

Imagine stanning for Russia as a leftie - imagine being that big of a loser.
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That's the weirdest thing to me. The Russia and China of today are not communist/leftist/progressive in the slightest. They are authoritarian capitalist countries but they still have all these supporters among the left. I really think that it has nothing to do with Communism and it's solely opposition to the US above anything else despite what they profess. They are unable to conceive of a world where you can condemn the actions of a country in one instance and support those actions in another. I guess they are just unable to process the world that way, it has to be all or nothing.
 
Tamanon

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I mean, it will sound reductive, but the tankie stance on this is purely an anti-American/Western one. That's why they really don't care that Russia actually invaded, and what kind of country or government Russia is.
 
DaciaJC

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Approached about his role in backing the group, Cohen told The Daily Beast: "I think the U.S. should use its power to negotiate an end to the war, not prolong the death and destruction by supplying more weapons."

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Some of them have been echoing Kremlin propaganda lines by claiming that U.S. military support for Ukraine is extending and intensifying the fighting, and suggesting that NATO expansion was one of the causes of the war. "We gave Putin just cause," the director of EMN, Dennis Fritz, told The Daily Beast in an interview.
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Yeah, these people are deluded fools. Fuck 'em.
 
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