I haven't gotten farther than this post and, without thinking too hard on this, I think it mirrors my sentiments. If it's a + to getting Sanders in the WH, coo.
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Bernie really out here cutting ads with Joe Rogan's endorsement (SEE STAFF POST)
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Nice of you to quote a guy who was shitting on a disabled woman within the past 24 hours because she dared to complain about bad service.
The Perfect is the enemy of good.
Keeping progress going in the right direction is better than the alternative.
(I'm not sure if you posted this to agree with me, but this is more or less where I stand on the issue.)
I don't know much about this Youtuber, but his video is the only one I can find that has the extended speech Bernie gave to a class in 2003. So ignore that guy if you want to... but the Bernie speech...
About how the Republican party gets people to divide, and get people to vote against their interest (health care, education, living wage) and as Bernie has said, their goal is to try to get people to not fall into that...and bring everyone together to first get these basic things in place... then imo, people might see more clearly about not caring/hating about what others choose to do with their lives. There will always be pieces of shit out there, but imo there are more good people out there than bad.... some are just stupid and gullible. Need to wake their asses up.
About how the Republican party gets people to divide, and get people to vote against their interest (health care, education, living wage) and as Bernie has said, their goal is to try to get people to not fall into that...and bring everyone together to first get these basic things in place... then imo, people might see more clearly about not caring/hating about what others choose to do with their lives. There will always be pieces of shit out there, but imo there are more good people out there than bad.... some are just stupid and gullible. Need to wake their asses up.
I'm more disagreeing with the tweet in a way, I didn't know your position until you just posted it :).
Nope you have every right to be angry about whatever you would like, carry on I have no right, nor desire to do so. My point was simply that I find it less gross to appeal to such a demographic without compromising on policy that would help the trans community, as opposed to your traditional centrist that tries to appeal to it by actually compromising on your policies and beliefs to appeal to right wingers. Medicare for all remains one of the most trans friendly policies on the primary and that hasnt changed by having a conversation with Joe Rogan.
Oh you mean like what Obama and other Dems before him had been doing.
Rogan is a bigot, but after all the times I've heard people tell me that socialists should move center on policy because of electability, or reaching across the isle, or winning over moderates who might otherwise vote for Trump, I'm kind of having a hard time being as shocked by this as I would have been a year or two ago.
Pretty much where I stand on this as well.
Pretty much where I stand on this as well.
I'm not saying that the endorsement isn't good for Bernie. But he turned that into an ad for a bigot and sent it out to 10.4 million people. He didn't have to do that. Rogan already said the quote. It was another choice to put the concerns of marginalized people on the back burner in the name of "the greater good". He shouldn't have tweeted that.
Warren was maybe a republican 20 years ago
"Traitor!"
Bernie just retweeted a shithead human being
"Ya'll this is just a part of life"
I'm just tired at this point.
I promise I do not mean to, and apologize if it came off that way.
Will never amaze me how some people attack Bernie for being poor on race when their favorite is the Native American Rachel Dolezal.
maybe I was reading too much into it but this is how I interpreted the tweet, that like, yeah you can totally use Rogan's endorsement to tear down Bernie, because Rogan is, in fact, bad, but you can also use it to get votes.
I'm really not sure how to tell you that people who listen to Joe Rogan's podcast are not compatible to Republican senators
Read the fucking rest!
"but his video is the only one I can find that has the extended speech Bernie gave to a class in 2003. So ignore that guy if you want to... but the Bernie speech..."
Pretty much my point of view. Guy is not perfect, like none of us are, but at the very least he is open about being completely wrong on stuff. It feels like some people would rather have the republicans win than have their candidates not pass their purity tests.
I dunno I felt for some reason like your response might be tangential to the topic of the thread
The annoyance is doubly so because we just crucified Biden for saying he liked a segregationist.
Why is retweeting someone like this ok?
The problem with Trump's support from white supremacists isn't the support itself, it's the reason for their support, namely Trump's racist and nationalist agenda. By comparing that to this situation, you're implying Rogan supports Sanders for a supposedly anti-trans, anti-gay agenda.
He's still shitting himself with his new all meat diet, because he "feels like he has more energy", and you claim he's open about being wrong?!
Well it's possible that they've criticized both. I'd hope anyone on here would.
I realize you think Bernie is being unfairly attacked here but it's best to stick to Bernie, because it's not really possible to know how many people that you're assuming are hypocrites don't even like Warren haha.
They claim Native American ancestry in another post so it might be personal for them but the statement is ridiculous. People attacking her on that really show their pettiness over something she was told was true her whole life.
I don't understand what point you're making, so I'll stop.
I don't think using progressive policies to garner votes is the same as using racism so this tweet seems kinda dumb to me.
It made me think of another tweet tho
People will pretend they can't imagine what could be wrong with Harvard laws "first woman of color".
Agreed maybe... but Rogan himself is so inconsistent.
He might change his mind in a week
He might be agreeing with communism in another week after a interview with Marx or something.
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