Serious question: has 343 Industries ever launched a product without huge development problems?
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To be fair...Rare has had a lot of problems too. They just managed to get their shit together recently.
It's reasonable to assume 343 was working on Halo 6 then 6 was scrapped and recycled into Infinite and it didn't go too well.
I feel kind of bad for chris lee and dont feel like this is his fault at all. Most of the negativity surrounding the infinite reveal was about graphics, but you have to remember this was a cross gen game with a large scope running at 4k/60 in single player and 120 fps in multiplayer. I mean look at how Dirt looks at 120fps and 60 fps, they talked about a post launch ray tracing patch and that has been the same for DMC too and there are very few games on series X launching with RT (Only watchdogs and CoD I think) considering all of that then yeah the game was never going to be a visual blockbuster and I feel like he might be taking the flack for those decisions that were potentially outside of his remit. Hope he has success on his next project.
Edit: not his fault at all is an overstatement, my bad, he does have some responsibility for the state of the game but it's not all on him.
Edit: not his fault at all is an overstatement, my bad, he does have some responsibility for the state of the game but it's not all on him.
I highly HIGHLY doubt that, most of the work for this game has been on an engine level.
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Halo mainline games are a synonym with "huge development problems" tbh.
No, he said it wasn't game related. Meaning it was personnel related.
Halo 4. We also didn't hear about any dev problems on Halo 5, people just didn't like the campaign. MCC and seemingly Infinite are the 2 projects have had issues.
The thread is moving fast, but this should be thread marked. With the proper citation, of course.
Chris Lee has been the studio head since 2015. He was in charge of both the single and multiplayer. The person who quit last year was the director Tim Longo who was the second in command for single player under Lee. I'm guessing there's been a bit of confusion since most devs use the title of director as the sole lead on a game. Whereas 343 uses the title studio head.
Edit: you're article states he had already been the head of the shooter team. Seems like in 2017 he just assumed more responsibilities
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I think more heads need to roll at 343, because who hired or selects three different directors to complete a project? Sounds like a problem higher up the chain if you can't pick a good person for the job. 343's resume isn't great and they were given a IP that I didn't think could be destroyed, yet they may pull it off. Here is hoping they get the ship back on course and Infinite changes the perception of 343.
You're not wrong. I still remember the Halo 2 meltdowns.
i also remember having one of them when the game just ended the way it did
Nah, we can call it the new Duke Nukem when they scrap and rebuild the game three times over.
True, but I imagine there's also a bit of pressure to not let this happen again.
Probably the best take for this situation. The news is too vague to know what it really means.
It's bizarre how 343's ambitions keep stacking as though they haven't buckled in the past. They're as talented as any other studio, but it's almost like they never got their footing before sprinting.
Hopefully, and in spite of the clearly tumultuous development, they will have the time to release something they're proud of.
Hopefully, and in spite of the clearly tumultuous development, they will have the time to release something they're proud of.
Isn't that technically Minecraft? Though I assume you're probably mean in terms of their exclusive franchises.
Halo 4 was actually a reasonably smooth dev from what I understand and honestly it's not a bad game. It's got issues but it's absolutely adequate.
I realize a Halo game should be more than "adequate".
They don't cancel it because this game's name is HALO. If it were called whatever other name, this would have been axed years ago. Obviously, they just can't do that to the xbox most representative character, but I think you can see my point.
This game probably is in a terrible state, if what we saw last july was the most polished thing they could bring to the table. And thr worst thing is that they really were going to release that with Series X.
I was wondering if they could make it in 2021, but I seriously don't think so. IMHO, this is going to 2022 esily.
I hope they can bring back Master Chif to his full glory.
This game probably is in a terrible state, if what we saw last july was the most polished thing they could bring to the table. And thr worst thing is that they really were going to release that with Series X.
I was wondering if they could make it in 2021, but I seriously don't think so. IMHO, this is going to 2022 esily.
I hope they can bring back Master Chif to his full glory.
I don't doubt it. But I don't think Lee leaving means the game is going to finish much later. I think his job is mostly done.
to be fair, the same could be said about Bungie, and in a few of their vidocs they have said so themselves
Yeah that does explain some of the confusion. Thanks
Concerning but at the same time, 343 needs some firings after all the cockups over the past 8 years.
Lol at the "just scrap it" takes. Most ridiculous shit I've ever read on here.
THE major launch title for a new console generation couldn't be released due in part to mismanagement at the studio (you can't put all the blame on covid). Personnel changes are inevitable.
I expect this to be a big holiday 2021 title.
THE major launch title for a new console generation couldn't be released due in part to mismanagement at the studio (you can't put all the blame on covid). Personnel changes are inevitable.
I expect this to be a big holiday 2021 title.
Forget current gen with this game. Start fresh, take the time required to make it right, and then push it to market a few years from now.
Just remember, whatever was/is happening with Halo Infinite's development WAS happening with those people at the top. With the way it showed at the showcase, I see this as a good thing.
Any issues with projects and development start at the top...almost always. Shake it all up and get this game on track please.
Any issues with projects and development start at the top...almost always. Shake it all up and get this game on track please.
They made and entirely new engine from scratch? Then I wonder what problems they could've had, I think Halo 4 showed that they can squeeze every last drop from old hardware.
Star Citizen. To be fair, SC would fill and entire TV series by itself.
Missing this launch was such a colossal failure. The way MS had the marketing all lined up and still took one on the chin because of this incompetence says a lot.
When are they actually doing to do some changes at the TOP of 343i ? They should be the responsible ones not the staff.
Leaders lead and if you're studio is and always has been in a bad place then the solution is simple.
They did these changes after H5 as well, some directors left and nothing changed.
Leaders lead and if you're studio is and always has been in a bad place then the solution is simple.
They did these changes after H5 as well, some directors left and nothing changed.