Games with variable resolution and framerate should see immediate improvement.
[Bloomberg] Nintendo to Use New Nvidia Graphics Chip in 2021 Switch Upgrade (DLSS) [Analysts saying $350-399 MSRP]
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My pics for Switch Pro patches:
Monster Hunter Rise (big duh, it's literally a given)
The Witcher 3
Crash Bandicoot 4
Doom Eternal (also a given IMO)
Spyro Reignited Trilogy (it really needs a patch to smooth things out period)
Crysis
Apex Legends (huge given)
Ori and the Will of the Wisps
BOTW
Super Mario Odyssey
Xenoblade Chronicles 2
Xenoblade Chronicles DE
Astral Chain
Luigi's Mansion 3
Make all run native 1080p docked and 720p portable with 4K and 1080p DLSS added respectively. Along with 60fps to certain games (MHR, Crash, Apex, Crysis, etc.).
Monster Hunter Rise also needs higher-res shadows, since it's one of the blemishes in it IMO. And any texture improvements they can afford (some assets look notably low-res in the backgrounds).
Monster Hunter Rise (big duh, it's literally a given)
The Witcher 3
Crash Bandicoot 4
Doom Eternal (also a given IMO)
Spyro Reignited Trilogy (it really needs a patch to smooth things out period)
Crysis
Apex Legends (huge given)
Ori and the Will of the Wisps
BOTW
Super Mario Odyssey
Xenoblade Chronicles 2
Xenoblade Chronicles DE
Astral Chain
Luigi's Mansion 3
Make all run native 1080p docked and 720p portable with 4K and 1080p DLSS added respectively. Along with 60fps to certain games (MHR, Crash, Apex, Crysis, etc.).
Monster Hunter Rise also needs higher-res shadows, since it's one of the blemishes in it IMO. And any texture improvements they can afford (some assets look notably low-res in the backgrounds).
You can probably add any service games getting constantly updated into that mix. So Fortnite, Rocket League, Warframe, Paladins, ETC.
Is Paladins still even active? No-one talks about it anymore, not for a while. But yeah for sure on any service games.
nearly 10K people was playing it 1 hour ago
Paladins - Steam Charts
An ongoing analysis of Steam's player numbers, seeing what's been played the most.
Those are also a lot bigger than this estimated SoC size though
This is going to create a pretty massive perceived power difference between the systems. I'm wondering how this will effect the development of games for the system going forward. Has Zelda been delayed to add a bunch of graphical bells and whistles to take advantage of the increase in power?
This is what I'm most curious about. Can we get a partial list of past/current Switch games that *should* get a benefit in framerate/resolution automatically?
I'm strongly debating getting Monster Hunter Rise this week. I really want that game at 60 fps more than anything, so if these DSLL rumors are probable and it should be a given Rise will benefit with it immediately without a patch (much like MHW did on PS5/XSX) then that makes it a much easier buy for me.
Absolutely. The hardware shortages sound like they aren't getting better anytime soon between the three companies
Dammit, I was going to gift a Switch for someone this Christmas and figured I'd wait for the upgrade.
Rise has a 30fps cap, whereas World did not, so it would need a patch. That said I fully expect a patch on or close after release of the new model taking advantage of the capabilities of the system. MH4U didn't just run better on the New 3DS but had better textures as well, Monster Hunter team is pretty good at that stuff.
if devs need a game to run on the base switch, I wouldn't expect new visual effects. just higher resolution and/or frame rate. Zelda will probably be 900p/30fps on base switch and 1800p/60fps on the Pro for example
This is off topic, but Is there any chance Nintendo would do something incredibly stupid with this pro switch like attatch the joycons to it like the lite, but maintain dockability like the regular edition? Is there any leaks anywhere saying it's definitely going to have removable joycons? Because I can't think of anything worse for a switch system than crappy joycons you cannot escape from.
close to zero. form factor other than "hybrid" isn't something that would be leaked at this point.
a silent revision and a voluntary recall of joycons, I think is pretty likely
If it's a hybrid system like the OG it's impossible that Joycons won't be detachable. I mean how can you play it in docked mode if you can't use the joycons? Putting extra pro controller in the package will make it more expensive.
Even without the shortages this has been every Nintendo launch for the past ten years at least
Def interested in this but I only play handheld (actually hasn't there been surveys showing most people play handheld for the most part?) so we'll see how good the improvement is there
As far as I'm aware, the only first party games that use TAA are the Xenoblade games. Yoshi's Wooly World would also be a candidate for "easy" DLSS integration (the game itself doesn't use TAA but it's UE4 so the feature is there in engine). Wouldn't necessarily expect DLSS to be added to those games, though, since they're already well and truly EOL.
Xenoblade 2 randomly got a new language patched in late last year. They're not supporting it super actively, but at least enough that I think some sort of patch is in the realm of possibility.
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Where are you getting PS5 sales numbers for Canada? Sony is directing all their stock to the US, so how can it be selling well here when there's nothing being stocked?
I can't find recent numbers, but did the PS4 even sell 1 million?
Also if Nintendo has been taking note, seeing old games with significant resolution and framerate bumps on Series X has been incredibly well received. Could give these games new life if they market the updates themselves well
If Monolith does have a game announcement this FY, I can see them back porting DLSS. But I can also just see them increasing resolution to 720p and 1080p
It's being sold here. I know multiple people who have boughy in the last month and we have twitter accounts telling us when stock arrives. I sat with a PS5 in my cart for 30 mins before deciding not to buy.
PS4 most certainly sold over 1m here lol.
Yeah, I don't know how far they'd go, but I think at least boosting the resolution caps is pretty likely.
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Hardware and Software sales 2019 in many countries
Via IDG Consulting for USA, Canada, UK, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Benelux, Nordic region and Japan. For South Korea and Taiwan the source is Media Create. USA Hardware Switch - 6.480.000 (47%) PS4 - 3.830.000 (27%) XB1 - 3.040.000 (22%) 3DS - 560.000 (4%) TOTAL - 13.350.000 (100%)...
www.resetera.com
Was near 3 million at the end of 2019.
I have to admit that I was uninterested in DLSS on Switch until seeing this video. Also I have a 3090 now and kinda want to see how high I can get that picture quality :o
This tells me that this device is partially aimed at getting many of those games that missed the base switch like the Bamco suite and whatnot
Having a huge ravenous install base that will snap up anything that comes out is a plus but unless they launch this new Switch with some statement titles like Kingdom Hearts III, GTAV or Call of Duty I would expect more of the same from those mega publishers.
Except that the Bamco games could have easily been on OG Switch, it was never a power issue for those games.
What it WILL do though is probably get some other games to appear on Switch, and get even more people to buy 3rd party ports on Switch.
I dunno, as we've seen with console development high frame rates don't really sell games. Dev's will typically prioritize "graphics" because its better for marketing. It's easier to sell the graphical differences the system makes by adding additional visual goodies. Zelda looks best on Switch Pro!
You hear that? That is the sound of million upon millions wardrums sounding from Nintendo.. in Sonys backyard!
The great dragon has awoken from slumber to reclaim the throne...because heavy weighs the head of who wears the crown....
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The great dragon has awoken from slumber to reclaim the throne...because heavy weighs the head of who wears the crown....
/s
sounds like this new President guy is more in the know on how to make the switch brand more successful. Maybe he is more in touch with the current gamers?
He did have an important position with regards to the Pokemon brand at one point, so this may just be his cup of tea. Or better phrased, right up his alley.
Though it is early so far, I'm curious how the furukawa era will pan out.
Idk. He's just talking about updated quotes added to this article
The Japanese version of the tweet is still there
Unless you think Nintendo is going to throw away all of their existing game engines, then any work they do to add DLSS to their upcoming games could likely be used in their already released games.
Seems like the Japanese post is there, not sure if that was made after the fact or not.
One thing they could do is have a setting that allows you to play unpatched games in their "docked mode" even when the Switch Pro is still handheld.