Nice one Jezza, let's put the fun back into fucking up the country by making us guess when you're going to do your job.
Other pledges Boris Johnson takes to 1922
* insert broadband into 'every orifice, of every home'
What you need is a PM that reflects how close the referendum result was and delivers on that basis. Not one that picks the most extreme of one side that doesn't even represent most Leave voters.It's not surprising really. The PM was a remainer who was never going to get us the best deal. She was on a hiding to nothing as would anyone have been. Given everything that has happened, a leaver was always going to get the top job.
Right now, it's like being in a hurricane. You can hear explosions, and sirens, and what sounds like things collapsing.He still needs please the ERG types (who represent Tory members views) because the "liberal" wing hates him though.
But parliament voted against every available option.Fucked if I know, but I'm not paid to be in a position to negotiate it. The fact that parliament, including members of her own party, threw it out 3 times, tells me she could have perhaps made a better fist of it. Having said that, it was always a thankless task so who knows...
Yes it is, we're a country. A country that doesn't get what it votes for and I hope to god unionists make this precise argument because it'll guarantee Indy.
Fucked if I know, but I'm not paid to be in a position to negotiate it. The fact that parliament, including members of her own party, threw it out 3 times, tells me she could have perhaps made a better fist of it. Having said that, it was always a thankless task so who knows...
If I recall right, Boris was vying to become prime minister after David Cameron left and then Gove back-stabbed him so that Gove could become prime minister and then Theresa May got the job. Boris has been trying for this position for quite some time now... The entire reason he pushed for Brexit was so that he could be PM and looks like he finally got his wish...
Can't argue with that but it's extremely hard to see this as anything other than knowing it'll be bad but not knowing how bad.Right now, it's like being in a hurricane. You can hear explosions, and sirens, and what sounds like things collapsing.
Right now, the only option is hunkering down. We don't know which way the storm is going to go. We don't know what fires will be burning when it breaks. We don't know what we will have to fight to protect.
We don't know what Boris is going to do as PM. We don't know which tory MPs are going to fall in line behind him. We can guess, of course, but until it happens, we can't really strategise what to do about it. Until then, best to take care of our own mental health, so that once it is clear exactly what we are up against, we are best equipped to do something.
My default position is one optimism. But it isn't one of inaction.
Good idea for the casting of the Individual 1 sequel "Oaf Zero"
Parliament threw literally every single option they were presented out and the Brexiteers themselves have yet to make a single realistic statement on what they actually want (outside of deals that are literally impossible). Judging her deal based on that is just strange; it's like saying a Michelin-starred restaurant is crap because a group of picky children can't decide on what they want from the menu.
Not as much as the people. Oh boy.
There is a collective choice of Scotland, the sum of votes(or seats). It's quite incredible how you don't understand this, even unionists here view ourselves as a country and as a country we can vote against brexit and Tories all we want but we'll ultimately get what England wants.For election purposes you are just 59 seats, less than England, more than Wales - a number that is roughly proportionate to the population. There is not a collective choice of Scotland. How would that work? If Scotland gives most Scottish seats to the SNP, should the SNP run the UK, despite not running outside of Scotland. It's nationalist bunk.
20 years when he finally falls to the uprising and die to a toblerone guillotine
I mean Osborne can only get hard when cutting taxes and killing poor people so it'll be a wince of extreme enjoyment I'm sure.Disaster capitalism act 2 about to start and it'll make even Osborne wince.
Would've been pretty funny if they instantly called a VoC and kicked him out again.
also a view from the continent:
That's not how elections work. It isn't England vs Scotland. It's 65 million people divided into 650 seats, each of which has equal weight.
Nice one Jezza, let's put the fun back into fucking up the country by making us guess when you're going to do your job.
I mean Osborne can only get hard when cutting taxes and killing poor people so it'll be a wince of extreme enjoyment I'm sure.
There is a collective choice of Scotland, the sum of votes. It's quite incredible how you don't understand this, even unionists here view ourselves as a country and as a country we can vote against brexit and Tories all we want but we'll ultimately get what England wants.
So we should just shut up and keep quiet is the message you are sending with this argument. Guess what alot of us are sick of getting what we don't vote for.
he doesn't have the numbers so he has to wait for signals from the tory unfaithful, it's a simple as that really.
... how would you define 'do your job', in this situation? like, acting as the opposition, obviously, but should he call a vote immediately or set a specific date or what
hahaha i forgot how good Steve Bell's Osborne cartoons were.
He misjudged the situation IMO. Against the clock and with the media saying he was finished he bottled it accepting that Gove had finished him where in fact the only person Gove had fucked over was himself. If he had stood he'd have beaten may easily. The field was so weak that Fecking leadsome made the last 2.I still don't quite get what happened. Sure, Gove threw his hat into the ring, but Boris was still the massive favourite. If he really wanted it at that point he could have waltzed into No.10. I'd guess he saw it for the poison chalice it was and decided to hold off. Only reason I can see him wanting it now is because it's probably the last chance he realistically has.
I'm fairly certain you are trolling me now.I didn't vote for them either. Maybe I should declare independence? That's not how democracy works. You don't get to carve out a section of the electorate, aggregate their votes and then compare that to choice of the country as a whole and claim injustice. It's nonsense. If Cornwall decides to vote Cornish separatists into her seats, does she then have a legitimate argument for independence because the choice of the county is not the same as the choice of the country?
If you want to vote for a party of government maybe actually vote for a party that wants to be in government and not just a regional power. There are many reasons to want independence, just as there are many reasons for Brexit but perverse electoral maths is not one of them.
He's the best in the business imo, Cameron as a condom is just so...weird but fitting.
He's the best in the business imo, Cameron as a condom is just so...weird but fitting.
For election purposes you are just 59 seats, less than England, more than Wales - a number that is roughly proportionate to the population. There is not a collective choice of Scotland. How would that work? If Scotland gives most Scottish seats to the SNP, should the SNP run the UK, despite not running outside of Scotland. It's nationalist bunk.
Lol I bet Cameron wishes he was only known for putting his cock in a pig now.
I'm judging it based on the fact that if it went through, we wouldn't really "leave" at all, we'd be tied in with none of the say we have today.
I agree though that I don't think there's a deal that the EU would go for between what she got and what leavers would accept as "leaving", short of coming out with no deal.
It seemed to me that maybe if she could have done something around the Irish backstop, she might have been able to get something through but given the way parliament voted everything else down, who knows?