Also I think this puts an end to 'they tuk our jobs' seen many of these posts on Twitter thinking this would end it for truckers.
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Breaker One-Niner. Tesla to Unveil Electric Semi TONIGHT 11PM ET / 8PM PT - by @LOWMAX
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Exactly. I believe all the specs... EXCEPT the release date.
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I drive an S, I know about how regenerative braking works on electric cars. On the S, you still need to use the brake to completely stop the car, as the regeneration becomes negative below a certain speed and as such there is no benefit and the car doesn't waste energy bringing you completely to a stop. Also I think the original reason this design decision was made got explained this way: They don't want you to forget how to use the brake pedal in case you need to stop suddenly. So one-pedal driving seems a bit iffy for this reason alone.
However for a truck, I guess it's possible that since trucks spend most of their time cruising on freeways the wear on brake pads is lower than on passenger cars. People can make the brake pads on their S and X last 40,000 miles so maybe 100,000 miles is within the realm of reality for a truck? I don't really know. Guess we'll see in 2019 or whenever these things start hitting the road.
I missed the Roadster reveal because I thought the stream was over. Damnit.
Is Waymo level 4 yet? Tesla is probably what? Level 2 or 3? I don't think anyone is close to Level 5.
Is Waymo level 4 yet? Tesla is probably what? Level 2 or 3? I don't think anyone is close to Level 5.
It's why I said that these trucks will supplement that for regional distribution. Nothing will ever be as efficient as metal on metal. Electric metal and metal, even more so.
An all electric truck fleet will still have tons of externalities like local pollution and increased local and interstate traffic. Those rubber rubbing on pavement does not magically go away on electric trucks.
It's expected for Waymo to launch their self driving service in Phoenix soon((tm), likely less that a quarter I would say), at first with safety drivers that are expected to be droped rather quickly. Looks like Cruise(GM) is second in the SD race.
I think that Tesla have yet to match the capabilities of autopilot gen 1? And with every day that passes I'm more skeptical of their ability of reaching L4/5 without lidar in the short term.
The one pedal system that Nissan is proposing has the extra features needed to allow a car to come to a complete stop without the use of a brake pedal and is much stronger as a regenerative braking system than the model s or even the roadster.
The brake is still there for people who panic, but it works just as well without since it actually will come to a complete stop.
What sort of local pollution are you talking about? Tesla's Supercharger network is solar powered. I agree about road traffic, but combined with Musk's underground freeway system I imagine long term he's thinking about a separate underground commercial transport system. I mean that's long term and highly theoretical. But I don't see the downside to this just in terms of replacing the existing trucks which are terrible for pollution, and unsafe. Farther down the road I imagine Tesla will even offer a fully autonomous truck.
Because trains already use electric motors?
They use a diesel engine to generate the electricity for the motor, which combined with a constant low speed means they have something like 8 times the efficiency of a semi truck.
For scenarios where you have rapidly changing speeds (semi going between city and highway driving), electric makes some sense. But for a railroad, the efficiency is already so high due to the diesel generators working at their most efficient power band that there's just less of a need for electrification at this point in time.
Regen braking still helps considerably. Most of the kinetic energy being dissipated by a truck is when it slows down from high speed (E=0.5*mass*velocity^2) so if the regen system can capture most of that energy, you will see tremendous gains in brake life.
Even in low-speed driving, I read that a hybrid taxi can go a year without getting brake pads replaced while a regular gas powered taxi would get new brakes every month.
Holy fuck at that roadster.
That's like the dream car I had in my head 15 years ago when it seemed like electric supercars were
going to be the future. Might just be me but the design aesthetic reminds me of Lotus which has always been a favorite style too.
That's like the dream car I had in my head 15 years ago when it seemed like electric supercars were
going to be the future. Might just be me but the design aesthetic reminds me of Lotus which has always been a favorite style too.
The original Roadster literally was a Lotus with an electric motor.
Acceleration and power are absolutely not useless metrics in this context.
Acceleration is a direct result of power. The ability to quickly get up to speed is very beneficial.
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I'm guessing Tesla will sell tiered Roadsters, with the $200k version not performing as well as the top-of-the-range (vastly more expensive) model.
I don't think it is just politics, but trucking will require drivers for a while because they will be necessary once the truck arrives at a DC or store. It is one thing to automate over the road movement, but to automate trailers moving to specific dock doors or specific slots in an overcrowded drop yard will be much more complex.
More than that, I think most companies are still going to want a person on board to protect the cargo. Even if the job ends up having more in common with being a security guard than a driver, I don't think you're going to have many trucks hauling expensive loads around driverless.
Yup. $200k gets you the specs they mentioned at the reveal. Who knows what the higher end trims will do!
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Loading and unloading. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I think self driving cars are a lot nearer than Robocops, but hey, I'm not entirely sure I want to be right about that.
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Of course they did, they probably lowkey helped tesla:
https://corporate.walmart.com/_news_/news-archive/2014/03/26/walmart-debuts-futuristic-truck
How many of those people are upset right now?
Now that Walmart has stated they will order a few of the Tesla Semi to test them for potential use I imagine lots of people may be salty.
Loblaws here in Canada has preordered 25 of these trucks. Tesla might have a real hit on their hands here if all the claims are true.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/business/lobl...ectric-trucks-for-undisclosed-price-1.3683155
http://www.ctvnews.ca/business/lobl...ectric-trucks-for-undisclosed-price-1.3683155
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I don't know what that dig about "fake brake lifetime" thing comes from. If you can make transfer the energy back into the generators efficiently enough, you won't wear then. Literally the law of thermodynamics.
They increased their batteries, double capacity to only a half increase in volume. I don't doubt their claims.
They increased their batteries, double capacity to only a half increase in volume. I don't doubt their claims.
I think that some people don't understand that generating power from the momentum of the truck will slow it down.
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Didn't want to make a new thread, but pickup truck confirmed. yay:
e: boo, F150 sized = /
e: boo, F150 sized = /
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That's sweet. I'm looking to get a model 3 in 2020. Could be inline for a pick up in maybe 2023.
