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Seems like user error to me 🤷♀️
How'd you do it? I tried all the copy to clipboard buttons as well as the URL itself and added it in the image function here and got "error, please contact administrator".
I mean I'd support that, totally. I think it's only fair to pit Remain against another reality, rather than a bag of fantasies.
Right clicked the image and clicked Copy Image Adress from there (which gave me: https://media1.tenor.com/images/adfc225794344d06697642e8dd16827f/tenor.gif?itemid=9662944) and pasted into the image function here.
Complete and utter bollocks, what do we know about the PM, she will do anything to keep herself in power, her agreeing to a second Ref would see 90% of her mps and the local party go ballistic, her career would be DOA within seconds...
Would she use the Labour MP's to pretend she was thinking about it to scare brexiteer MP's....absolutely
"Yes it was reckless politics, I'm not sure sorry is enough. But the best thing now is to deliver a Brexit..."
I like to think Tusk was channelling:
No shit, all the polls pointed to a hung parliament, it was an easy giveaway, a political move to say to the Lib Dem's, here have one of our red lines, can we have one of yours...
You could tell the shock on Cameron's face the day after, nobody predicted a Tory majority, if it had the Ref would never of been on there
A Belgian, a Pole, and a Luxembourger walk into a bar and start out-bantering the British barkeeper...
Yeah, I'm not at all convinced she's actually listening to them.
I still remember watching the results coming in live and even the Tory pundits were looking at the exit polls and going "Uh...nah, we definitely didn't get a majority that must be wrong" and they looked terrified.
Yep, they were almost willing the exit poll to be wrong, their whole manifesto had been written on the premise of giving half of it away
I have a very short fuse when it comes to greek whining. They were the catalyst for a lot of anti European sentiment on the continent.
That would be the dream scenario, but it seems so unlikely despite being the only logical way for May to actually get her bill through parliament.
If we did get a second referendum then I can only imagine how different the campaign for Remain would be. Instead of Cameron trying to scare people we would have most of the world begging us to stay and stop this madness.
All because Nick Clegg caved on tuition fees. It's sad to think that all these clowns got to fondle the levers of power briefly before covering themselves in shit while Ed Miliband got done in by a bacon sandwich and never even got to have a turn. Now we are stuck with an even worse set of twats.
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Yeah, it was a manifesto that felt like it had been written with the Lib Dems in the room with them lol. Like "Here's what we'll put in to ours that we'll back down on when we form a coalition. Here's what we want but wont put in, so you can claim it's a victory or something..."
Lets not undersell just how into the coalition the Lib Dems were. It was much more than just U-turning on some of their most popular policies. You also have people like Vince Cable who revelled in being able to finally go all out Tory without any consequences. Selling off the post office, pushing deregulisation for businesses, reducing workers rights.
If the Lib Dems had spent the coalition time publicly holding back the Tories they might still be relevant today. Instead they lost pretty much all their support from center-Left voters because they became a right wing party.
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You're right, the current leader of the party was in charge of privatising the damn post office. The lack of trust was about more than student loans. The Kennedy 'left of New Labour' and anti-Iraq years were what drew me to the party, and the coalition pushed me away again
Second referendum would likely split the Tory Party, especially if those were the only two options.
Labour's official policy seems to be moving in a Norway+ direction, and it'd be good to see that confirmed. It'd be even better to see that backed up with support for a second referendum if May doesn't agree to the demands.
BBC News: Bank forecasts worst year for UK since 2009
The Bank of England expects growth this year to be the slowest since 2009 when the economy was in recession. It is forecasting growth of 1.2% this year, down from its previous forecast of 1.7% made in November. The Bank said it had seen further evidence that businesses were being cautious in the run-up to Brexit, including evidence from its own survey of firms.
Not even left yet
The Irish are really a thorn in the Brexiteers side. First the border now their possible trade deals.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/wor...ement-if-it-wants-us-trade-1.3785317?mode=amp
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/wor...ement-if-it-wants-us-trade-1.3785317?mode=amp
50 days to go, no need to panic just yet... /s
The story in the guardian brought home how close we are, goods being shipped in a few days could arrive with us having left.
So problems could kick off immediately for exports.
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_STATEMENT-19-903_en.htm
Before the end of February... lol. How utterly pointless.
Before the end of February... lol. How utterly pointless.
I mean, it's a really strange thing that's happening. They're acting as if there is zero urgency needed to stave off no deal, but still trying to get the EU to cave with the threat of no deal, which if there was already some agreed safety net they aren't telling us about, they wouldn't be doing.
Nothing has changed.
They surely must be doing something like sky won't fall on the 29th March but there is no solution, back to formula. Have a pint and wait for all this to blow over.
There is a tin foil hat part of me that thinks the government is desperate for the economy to fall over and more companies leaving so they have an excuse to stop Brexit but no matter how shit they are, it just won't topple before the 29th.
They surely must be doing something like sky won't fall on the 29th March but there is no solution, back to formula. Have a pint and wait for all this to blow over.
There is a tin foil hat part of me that thinks the government is desperate for the economy to fall over and more companies leaving so they have an excuse to stop Brexit but no matter how shit they are, it just won't topple before the 29th.
I don't know what the point of that is. Says in that press release that Juncker repeated the EU position that the withdrawal agreement is final, but the political declaration can be altered. Same as the last time.
I've just had a letter through the post this morning informing me that my local NHS dentist is closing on April 5th because "of difficulties experienced in recruiting dentists".
This is one hell of a coincidence in timing, as all of the dentists there are from eastern Europe. I've been going this dentist for over 10 years, never had a problem and now I'm fuming.
This is one hell of a coincidence in timing, as all of the dentists there are from eastern Europe. I've been going this dentist for over 10 years, never had a problem and now I'm fuming.
Everyone knows what the safety net is, either revoke Article 50 or the UK asks for an extension to a) hold a second referendum or b) a General Election.
Besides, the EU aren't in a rush. They'll be impacted but they can cope.
You are seeing something that is not there, it is all about funding, you would be able to find private dentists in a second, they don't want NHS patients, simple economics
And on that note I always find it weird that I pay more for a NHS filling than I do when I go to the emergency dentist
I see the usual suspects in the Labour ranks are out today talking about quitting like a bunch of idiots
meanwhile
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47160188
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meanwhile
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47160188
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I want to wake up one day and not be in this hell anymore.
I don't want to live in a land run by lunatics anymore.
I don't want to live in a land run by lunatics anymore.
The first party to announce that they would revoke article 50 and we would never have to hear the words B-R-E-X-I-T again is getting my vote, and I don't care if it's the Torys they would get my vote. I want off this ride.
I'd happily take a Norway style deal at this point, it's also probably easier to claw our way back in to the EU from something like that in future.
I think we could just squeak through on a second vote but it's dodgy and probably keeps the argument going for Farage and his job.
I feel like this is where a lot of us "remainers" stand. Like at this point a Norway deal, while still worse, is absolutely more preferable than some kind of horrible hard brexit.
The question is whether it's still possible at this point, who knows. Definitely not if May is still going to run the clock down getting her deal through.
In a silly way that's what people's vote types should be shouting, want to never hear about Brexit again, remain because this shit has a decade or more to go. I genuinely think people presume once May's deal goes through or no deal, that's it over.
I want to not have a cupboard with stockpiled goods. I shouldn't even be considering this.
You would still have to have freedom of movement though.. would that ever pass parliament?
Get your technological border solutions right here folks!
https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli/leaked-report-irish-border-technology
Edit - Ahahahaha... they even got blockchain in there!
https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli/leaked-report-irish-border-technology
Edit - Ahahahaha... they even got blockchain in there!
It's hard to tell what would pass with no more kicking the can down the road, it's going to be a last second thing and then anything is possible if the leaders haven't got a grip.
It feels very much like a "we need to pretend to be vocal about this now, even though we all knew a second referendum was never happening anyway" kinda thing. Corbyn did the right thing and it has successfully push the Tory spin off of the Labour party in terms of "whose fault is it we don't have a cross party solution." It's May's fault. We all knew that (I hope, I'm not sure, this thread can be very anti-Corbyn for seemingly random reasons sometimes) but now it's clear to the point where even the BBC aren't able to spin it. The Tories aren't meeting in the middle, May refuses to back down from her red lines despite being unable to get a better deal while those are in place and even the EU are in favour of a cross party solution. It's literally one of the few things that would get the EU back to the negotiation table and would even encourage them to extend the deadline.
On the bright side, if we end up avoiding a No Deal Brexit, think how cheap your shopping will be for a while!
Do they not realize that it means No-Deal?
Do they hate her so much that they'd rather the country to burn?
This whole play has been orchestrated very well by May. Labour votes with her, it breaks in two. Labour rejects her, it's their fault No-Deal happens. They can't win anymore.
*checks 2017 manifesto*
huh, it seemed to be there the whole time. weird how nobody noticed until now.
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