of course. He's nearly 70 now, I'm not even sure he'll be around for the next one of it goes to 2022.
BREXIT |OT| ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- Thread starter theaface
- Start date
- Status
Also Corbyn sees the disaster that is a No-Deal Brexit as a chance to get into power.
He would, I think he would stand down before the 2022 general election, only staying on because he believes there is one coming sooner.
Winning is different to being able to form a government though. A few less Tory seats and they won't be able to form a coalition.
I fear UKIP/far-right candidates would win seats. As much as I want the Tories out I don't see what it changes to have an election again while this stage of Brexit is still hanging around. 2017 was different because Brexit still felt far enough away that we could talk about other stuff but it will completely engulf any election now.
Aye, because we all know the SNP won't team up with Labour to form anything of value because of Labour's Brexit stance.
It'd just be another repeat of the madness of 2017. Eventual fracturing of alliances and we'd be in another stalemate.
Translated:
'This was supposed to be the week my use of myopic fantasies for personal gain would reach fruition, and you silly plebs would not mind anything because this tosh I chuck out at a moment's notice is, apparently, so innervating - what are you like, you scum? Hah! Cuh, what a lark, guess I need to do some more fucking about (in all senses, hohoho) on the fringes of things and making egregiously selfish choices under the cover of this bollocks narrative you all seem to need in your veins like a junkie. And I'm only paid hundreds of thousands of pounds a year for the privilege.'
It's parodying itself on such a scale I feel like a black hole is the only way out.
Can't wait for TIG style Labour after Corbyn goes. Going to do wonders for the country and get that grassroots fired up!
The fireworks pictured:
I mean... all of this is true, even with the bungled delivery.
Labour's position is still a soft Brexit, but are against May's hard Brexit deal, and want No Deal taken off the table; but in all(?) cases there must be a final confirmatory public vote.
Last edited:
The Tories have been in power for almost 10 years, all that matters for Labour is winning power. If Corbyn can't do that then we need to find another way, I get the feeling he is happy to be in opposition permanently if the alternative is letting centrists take control of the party again.
All that does is reinforce how ridiculous a binary "IN / OUT" referendum was, Cameron should be strung up.
I can't wait for: DONALD TUSK IS SECRETLY PM
I like how the Express' angle is 'Let's ban racist fans who abused England', as if it was England they were abusing rather than the specific players who are people of colour.
so how does this work - do they still need filtering by the speaker? And MPs can vote for multiple options?
Need a majority or 'least worst' is acceptable?
Is that Brex Farage new party? As if so, that man has some pull...I bet if the IG polled they would not get anything, perhaps 1%, but Farage...he is like a Demi god to people
This has been the problem since the start: The referendum only tells parliament that the UK should leave the EU but it gives no direction as to what the UK's future relationship should be.
It is largely because of this that we are seeing the mess that we are now because everyone interpretes the result differently and why May's redlines are a total sham.
That reads like one of my colleagues who thinks she is better than everyone
If I wasn't busy I'd also go and look up some past Daily Express headlines about Raheem Sterling.
Just saw Michael Fabricant wobble on BBC about being asked why he was alright to change his mind regarding backing May's deal and he gave the old shite about "Anything to get us out of the EU".
I hate that shit.
I hate that shit.
These still need to be filtered through the Speaker to get the final list to be voted on.
I daresay the more unicorn-y ones and duplicates will be scratched.
As I understand it, the Speaker will choose which options will appear on the paper ballot. The plan is for MPs to vote yes/no on each option, all at once on a single ballot. Voting is at 7pm and the results should be announced later tonight.
At some point today MPs will also vote on reserving more time on Monday to further debate the options that get the most support.
A hard border by another name then.
Not Barnier's best moment, tbh.
Thanks. I wonder if MPs will need a cheat sheet to remind them what they all mean.
Edit: Beaten.
I think the implication is that the UK would have to creste a sea border with NI.
Good thing the grassroots are out in force for Labour now with that massive 33% landslide that will enable so much progressive politics to be implemented.Can't wait for TIG style Labour after Corbyn goes. Going to do wonders for the country and get that grassroots fired up!
The fireworks pictured:
EU wouldn't have a choice in this scenario. If anything this is the UK's best play since they can blame the EU for throwing up a border to protect the single market/customs union.
Dunno about that. Its the UK's fault that Ireland is fractured as it is in the first place. The UK can spin it all they want but some of us won't forget history.
Yes, but the EU would be the one putting up the border. The UK has already indicated it's not interested in checking goods flowing into the country through NI (which would violate WTO rules but hey whatever, it's all uncharted territory here)
And there you go. A border is an inevitability without an agreement, and the EU has proposed something to make sure the GFA isn't violated, but if the UK doesn't accept that, then is it really the EU's fault? Its UK stubbornness over their own fuck-ups.
I mean the EU will still have cards to play in the event of a no deal, and Barnier is defending Ireland's interest. He's assuming the UK will respect the GFA and the issue of a border becomes the UK's problem
Wtf is the norway option without a customs union? Isn't that a simple FTA?
Also lol at malthouse still not being dead.
I think that the point Barnier is trying to make is that any option that results in a hard border will still need to have the backstop attached to even start further negotiations. Practically telling Brexiters than rejecting May's deal is not stopping that.
- Status