She did mention why…Well, she retracted her sympathy for Mike entirely. She didn't mention what exactly changed her mind (yet), but damn she seems distraught.
She did mention why…Well, she retracted her sympathy for Mike entirely. She didn't mention what exactly changed her mind (yet), but damn she seems distraught.
Do what you believe is the least awful course of action.So just put in my ticket to cancel my D2:R pre order. I also pre ordered the Lich King helmet during BlizzCon. Really conflicted because i had good memories of WotLK... but this stuff stains that so much. Should i cancel?
Yeah, this.I'd also keep in mind that people who went through this at Blizzard can and will have different opinions about the executives and other employees involved and they shouldn't be poked at for that being the case. A large group of people having similar but ultimately unique, personal experiences with discrimination, sexual harassment and sexual assault do not need to agree about everything for there to be a problem. They are not a monolith. Support them all.
Thank you for your efforts.We are only a Danish videogame magazine / podcast but we have decided to not cover any blizzard / Activision game before real change happens.
Yup, the classic "I was the captain of the he ship but the crew never let me see the holes in the hull." Every workplace with creeps know who they are and it's clear whether you've been there one week or one decade.Don't buy their sob stories that they were unaware or that "people were really good at hiding stuff from them". It's all bullshit.
And if they really are that oblivious to what their employees are doing then they shouldn't be managing people.
Yup, the classic "I was the captain of the he ship but the crew never let me see the holes in the hull." Every workplace with creeps know who they are and it's clear whether you've been there one week or one decade.
We are only a Danish videogame magazine / podcast but we have decided to not cover any blizzard / Activision game before real change happens.
I thought Riot Games had a similar lawsuit which they settled.
I dunno why you're still turning this into a MMO VS.
Yeah, this is the same fucking excuse everyone uses, and it's bullshit. These people know whats going on, and refuse to do anything because it'll harm the company in various ways, or themselves.Don't buy their sob stories that they were unaware or that "people were really good at hiding stuff from them". It's all bullshit.
And if they really are that oblivious to what their employees are doing then they shouldn't be managing people.
It is telling how many people (like myself) who thought HR was there to help employees, but in reality it's there to protect the company
That's what I mean. Orignally I thought they were they for the employees, but having seen this (and my own experience) it's sad to see it's not the case
It is telling how many people (like myself) who thought HR was there to help employees, but in reality it's there to protect the company
the big people accused aren't some invisible i underlings or middle management but long time big name Vets of the company that they worked alongside for decades.
it is preposterous that they were ignorant considering what is being accused:
One thing you can probably say about square Enix is that this shit most likely isnt happening. Japanese culture is WAY different than American culture. This shit wont fly in square Enix and Yoshi P would publicly out someone doing that.
Your take is very wrong.One thing you can probably say about square Enix is that this shit most likely isnt happening. Japanese culture is WAY different than American culture. This shit wont fly in square Enix and Yoshi P would publicly out someone doing that.
yeah once there is a month paid you are good for that month. The only thing you can do is uninstall. Or at the very extreme to show solidarity is delete your characters but they may not even see that.
The NPC isn't removed, it's still there, it just despawns when players get close enough as players were protesting by killing the NPC . So they've just made a way for players to stop protesting by a way that took more work to do then renaming the NPC would just so they could keep the NPC still honouring the abuser in the worldThe point of the NPC was to honor the guy. It stands in a random corner all by itself. What would be the point of renaming it? Being removed is the right thing to do. Among all the other shit that references the guy that needs to go.
The NPC isn't removed, it's still there, it just despawns when players get close enough as players were protesting by killing the NPC . So they've just made a way for players to stop protesting by a way that took more work to do then renaming the NPC would just so they could keep the NPC still honouring the abuser in the world
I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a well-meaning employee making a quick attempt to remove his most accessible in-game reference without a patch or something. Might just be able to despawn / phase characters much more easily, who knows. Can certainly understand how and why people are taking it the way they are though.It's probably some bullshit about not wanting to rock any boat with the lawsuit going on, but then why do anything at all. Maybe just a bad attempt at making the npc invisible in general somehow idk.
Oh for sure, it's likely the difference between trying to remove him as a hot fix and actually removing the npc for real, but it's still a bad enough lookI wouldn't be surprised if it was just a well-meaning employee making a quick attempt to remove his most accessible in-game reference without a patch or something. Might just be able to despawn / phase characters much more easily, who knows. Can certainly understand how and why people are taking it the way they are though.
Well, it goes without saying that what the company can do and what they will do are likely to be two different things. What Activision Blizzard can do is actually cooperate with the investigation, not put out petty public or internal statements trying to denigrate the DFEH, accept responsibility for the actions of past and present abusive employees, and correct themselves before government oversight attempts to do that for them. What they will do is to be determined, but I fear that it won't be anything I just mentioned. I imagine a few sacrificial lambs at the company will be fired/given an early retirement/shuffled off to another department and management tries to pretend that everything's been solved while no systemic issues are actually addressed. Maybe some fines will be paid.So I've been thinking, with all this going on by now we all have expressed our opinions and disdain for the leaders that let all this happen... It's ironic how something I used to see in forums was how Blizzard had "lost its edge" to the point leaders left, when this whole time that "edge" was so filthy on the inside...
My two questions now are what can be done by Acti-Blizz in order to improve things for current female employees, and what do we think they will do to compensate for the pain caused to those who left and those who have stayed, given the leaked emails and the response from lots of Blizzard employees on Twitter? Do we think that there will be heads rolling, as in firings or even resignations from some of the leaders? Radio silence until things go to court?
What Acti-Blizz should do is authorize a thorough investigation by an outside party, identify where as much of the rot as they can find is coming from, and then actively deal with that accordingly, including mass firings, all the way up and down the chain. If Bobby Boy is a key to this, he should be forced out of his position as CEO.So I've been thinking, with all this going on by now we all have expressed our opinions and disdain for the leaders that let all this happen... It's ironic how something I used to see in forums was how Blizzard had "lost its edge" to the point leaders left, when this whole time that "edge" was so filthy on the inside...
My two questions now are what can be done by Acti-Blizz in order to improve things for current female employees, and what do we think they will do to compensate for the pain caused to those who left and those who have stayed, given the leaked emails and the response from lots of Blizzard employees on Twitter? Do we think that there will be heads rolling, as in firings or even resignations from some of the leaders? Radio silence until things go to court?
Of course there isn't, but it may not be doable as a hotfix, it may not be a decision that anyone who can make it is going to make for legal reasons right now, etc. We're talking about a company where fifty people have to approve everything, and the less intrusive something is the faster it's going to get done.There is literally no downside to renaming that character. That one guy might make a stink and that's about it.
This shit is so exhausting.
If their intent is to wash his references out of the game, they'll likely just full on remove that specific character, I imagine. It serves no purpose.There is literally no downside to renaming that character. That one guy might make a stink and that's about it.
This shit is so exhausting.
Well, it goes without saying that what the company can do and what they will do are likely to be two different things. What Activision Blizzard can do is actually cooperate with the investigation, not put out petty public or internal statements trying to denigrate DFEH, accept responsibility for the actions of past and present abusive employees, and correct themselves before government oversight attempts to do that for them. What they will do is to be determined, but I fear that it won't be anything I just mentioned. I imagine a few sacrificial lambs at the company will be fired/given an early retirement/shuffled off to another department and management tries to pretend that everything's been solved while no systemic issues are actually addressed. Maybe some fines will be paid.
Yeah, they kind of skipped several of the standard corporate apology steps and went right to aggressive, authoritarian deflection. We may be in uncharted waters.
Yeah I think the time for "being an ally" and all that has long passed, and the time for privileged doughy rich guys to finally face some consequences has arrived.Mike M. and current Blizzard higher-ups releasing these statements of "we didn't know, we're "sorry" but not going to acknowledge our actual fault or enabling behavior, but we will do better" are all full of shit. These men knew. They protected and enabled abusers, promoted them, and perpetuated this toxic "frat house" culture. They harmed women, helped others harm women, and condoned a culture that normalized harming women.
Don't buy their sob stories that they were unaware or that "people were really good at hiding stuff from them". It's all bullshit.
And if they really are that oblivious to what their employees are doing then they shouldn't be managing people.
Yeah, anybody who has spent any time in the workforce knows that this shit is never hidden. Hierarchies and cliques are always in plain sight and if you're one of the have-nots you're pretty powerless.Don't buy their sob stories that they were unaware or that "people were really good at hiding stuff from them". It's all bullshit.
And if they really are that oblivious to what their employees are doing then they shouldn't be managing people.
I just canceled my WoW Sub and don't play anymore blizzard games. Hopefully this company is going down.