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Canadian school cancels event with ISIS survivor out of fear of offending Muslim students
A Canadian school district canceled a book club event with an ISIS survivor over fear her new book would "foster Islamophobia."
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Canadian school cancels event with ISIS survivor out of fear of offending Muslim students
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The only people I could see this offending are ISIS themselves, and who the fuck cares what ISIS thinks about anything?
I'm sure way more Canadian Muslims are offended by this speaker being cancelled, than they would have been had she spoken at this event.
I'm sure way more Canadian Muslims are offended by this speaker being cancelled, than they would have been had she spoken at this event.
How about teaching the non-Muslim kids that being Muslim or Islam itself ≠ ISIS. I'd think people that already live that life know the difference. 🤦♂️
Seems like a teaching opportunity. Kids aren't difficult to teach when it comes to things like this.
It's the clueless adults you have to worry about...like the ones that made the initial decision to cancel.
Seems like a teaching opportunity. Kids aren't difficult to teach when it comes to things like this.
It's the clueless adults you have to worry about...like the ones that made the initial decision to cancel.
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I've never met a Muslim in Canada that would be angry if you shit-talked ISIS.
That's like canceling a KKK survivor's talk because you are afraid it might offend all the Christians.
Glad they flipped but questionable they were ever dumb enough to do that in the first place.
That's like canceling a KKK survivor's talk because you are afraid it might offend all the Christians.
Glad they flipped but questionable they were ever dumb enough to do that in the first place.
I think the problem might be that they're afraid the actions of ISIS, will be used to paint every muslim the same. And that of course commonly happens already. But it really frustrates me how the fact that people can take the WRONG read from something, generalize/stereotype based on something or dishonestly weaponize something, is trying to be curbed in this way that silences discussion of negative or even horrid things.
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Does the school board have a brain at all? Looking forward to seeing their response to their idiocy.
That this school would conflate ISIS with Islam tells me this cancellation probably isn't coming from a place of concern about Islamophobia.
As a Muslim, I can see why they did this.
I know the huge difference between what ISIS believes in and islam, but I'd say that most westerners don't. And bringing someone to talk to young students about the terrible atrocities done to her and many others in the name of what those monsters claim was Islam can be misunderstood and used against average Muslims. I'd say that even people who think of themselves as educated in the matter think that ISIS are Muslim extremists, as in that they follow islam very strictly, which is incorrect. It's why even in mainstream western media the only "good" Muslims are the ones that don't really follow Islam (the only exception I've seen is Hassan from Midnight Mass)
I know the huge difference between what ISIS believes in and islam, but I'd say that most westerners don't. And bringing someone to talk to young students about the terrible atrocities done to her and many others in the name of what those monsters claim was Islam can be misunderstood and used against average Muslims. I'd say that even people who think of themselves as educated in the matter think that ISIS are Muslim extremists, as in that they follow islam very strictly, which is incorrect. It's why even in mainstream western media the only "good" Muslims are the ones that don't really follow Islam (the only exception I've seen is Hassan from Midnight Mass)
So Yazidi's should be silenced? They've just had a genocide. Its important for all religions that the actions of fanatics are shared so people understand how dangerous religious fanaticism is. The decision does the opposite as it suggests shes somehow speaking out again Muslims rather than telling about what happened when a bunch of nutters were allowed to seize control of the area her people have called home for centuries.
The headline does not at all match the story and as a result the thread title doesn't either.
Edit: oh the headline is correct but the thread title is clickbait.
Edit: oh the headline is correct but the thread title is clickbait.
Yes! That's exactly what I said. Good job! 👌🏽
I just said that their concerns are valid. I never said I agree with how they handled those concerns, I didn't say that they should cancel. You think people will read about this and think oh all religious fanaticism is bad? No the majority will just say Islam is bad. And it's not like Canada is filled with ISIS sympathizers or supporters that you have to convince people that ISIS is bad.
I can kinda see that being their reasoning too, but at the same time I think it's trying to solve a problem that's not there, or overcompensating or something. I don't think think Muslims there would really be up in arms about it; at least nothing in the article indicates that. And Islamophobes will keep doing their thing either way tbh.
ZiZ said they can see why they chose to make this decision, not that they agree with it or that Yazidis should be silenced.
Am sorry this is ridiculous. This is one of the most recent genocides in the world. Thousands murdered, thousands sold as slaves and raped/mistreated for years. There were literal slave markets where people went in the town and picked up their Yazidi slaves. Its fairly disgusting to suggest a victim is talking about this to push against ISIS sympathisers/supporters - their talking about their experience of events that took place practically yesterday.
Shes a nobel prize winner who this very article explains is an advocate for survivors. Thats literally all shes doing. Shes talking about her story and you shouldn't judge or suggest it shouldn't be heard because its not convenient. ISIS caused harm to many muslims as well and their stories are just as important.
A very short google search shows Muslims helped her escape into territory liberated by muslims fighting ISIS. Your point is totally reactionary to the negative.
Is it though? We live in a world of anti-maskers, covid deniers, and its a speech taking place where thankfully the US sucks up all the bigotry press in N. America so they end up covering up, I dunno, murdered indigenous children for the last hundred years or so. Your utopia of bigotry free rationality doesn't exist.
While I think she should speak, you 'Well it idiotic to think people would take the wrong lessons from it' completely ignores the state of the world today. I can't be mad at their concerns, even if I might feel its an overreaction.
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What do you mean? The headline and the thread title are the same.
