L Thammy

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For those who haven't played it, Tatsunoko vs Capcom had a unique feature where two of the characters were classified as "giants". These characters were far larger and far stronger than any other character, but it was balanced through things like a lack of a partner character.





The feature itself was controversial. But this isn't a thread to debate its merits. No, this is a thread for dreams. Assuming this feature is back and that it was perfected, whether it's Tatsunoko or Marvel or SNK or whoever, what characters would you like to see and what would they bring to the table?

Remember that there are naturally three gameplay scenarios that we can experience from giants:

- Playing as a giant, facing a team of standard fighters
- Playing as a giant, facing another giant
- Playing a team of standard fighters, facing a giant





Let's start with the characters that were already proposed in discussions with Niitsuma.


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Zero Akuma

From the console versions of Cyberbots. There isn't much story behind it. Its Japanese name seems to be a joking reference to Evangelion, as its name can also be read as "Type 00". Its design

While Akuma is popular and is credited for providing the original Capcom fighting game crossover, it's also a bit of a shame when shotos are added to versus games. If Ryu and Akuma are too similar, they risk making the other redundant.

Zero Akuma's status as a giant naturally provides a major distinguishing factor of its own. Just as Ryu helps us get used to how fight games work and serves as the standard with which to compare fighters, Zero Akuma can serve as the standard for giants. By learning how to use familiar moves this this character, we get an idea of how the state of the game is different. Perhaps Tatsumaki Zankuu Kyaku feels stronger when your leg is threatening such a large area, maybe Gou Shouryuken feels weaker when it's harder to jump in on you.


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Daikyojin

From the Tatsunoko anime "Yattodetaman", apparently released as "Calendar Man" in some countries. Daikyojin is a giant robot warrior with a mind of his own; a good guy, but apparently easily insulted.

Daikyojin can change forms by combining with other support machines. He also wields a variety of melee weapons such as swords, a halberd, or a bow and arrow. He's got some missile launches as well. With these tools, it seems like Capcom could take a lot of directions with this character - a character who can mix up his attacks with different weapons, a stance character who can change forms, a summoner who can call its support machines.



MOSPEADA has also been mentioned, but I'm not totally sure which character they were intending to add. But moving on to possibilities that haven't been discussed, it goes almost without saying that one of Capcom's biggest franchises has a lot of possibilities that open up when big is in.



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Giants enable Monster Hunter to be represented by the monsters themselves. After so many years of hunting Rathalos, finally we'd get to control of one of the series' icons and let him to do the hunting. Presumably, he'd be a fighter that's strong in the air and at a range, similar to Firebrand.

But Rathalos isn't even the most interesting option that Monster Hunter would give us. What about this majestic beast:


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Brachydios is an exciting fight; it's big, strong, fast, and leaves a trail of explosions behind it. Showing off Brachydios in a fighting game would have a sense of spectacle; you're kung fu fighting in a powder keg. The player controlling Brachydios feels like they've got immense power in their hands, the normal sized player fighting it feels like they're bringing down a titan.



What characters do you think would have potential if giants return in another Capcom fighter or crossover fighter? I'm not the most knowledgeable about Tatsunoko or Marvel, but some more Capcom possibilities to stir up your creative juices:

Abyss (Marvel Vs. Capcom)
Astaroth (Ghosts 'n' Goblins)
Battle Body Sigma (Mega Man X)
Blodia (Armored Warriors)
Decider (Steel Battalion)
Drokmar (Magic Sword)
Final Vargas (Power Stone)
Fortinbras (Onimusha)
G Kaiser (Tech Romancer)
Gigante (Resident Evil 4)
Hauser (Red Earth)
Honda Tadakatsu (Sengoku Basara)
Mobilsuit (Side Arms: Hyper Dyne)
Ride Armor (Mega Man X)
Six Majin (Viewtiful Joe)
Yami (Okami)
 

Giga Man

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Sentinel and Jin Saotome return in MvC4, but their new roles will be as giant fighters where Jin is piloting the Blodia. This is good because that makes them both accurate to the source material.
 

Jakisthe

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A fully blown VT from Steel Battalion.

Would control *wildly* different compared to the the rest of the cast, with a ton of resources to watch out for, particulars like "balance" needing to be maintained, and would launch with a phone app for an extra UI pane.

It would also be massive and oppressively powerful.

Another, slightly more normal option could be a Vital Suit from Lost Planet. Still a great big plodding mech, still lots of things to watch out for, be slightly smaller, less fiddle-y, and would have the option to eject the pilot for brief periods of time to play by himself while the [still somewhat vulnerable] mech sits in the background.
 
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L Thammy

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Would I be able to summon Slayven or some other comic book expert to educate us about the potential from the Marvel side? Am I allowed to do that?
 

Catalyst

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Back before Smash Ultimate I used to say that they should do a Nintendo vs Capcom because that was the only way Ridley would get into a fighting game.
 

Malverde

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Any of the size changing Marvel character like Goliath or Stature. Sentinel and Shuma could be resized since they are supposed to be giant anyway.

Fin Fang Foom and It could be cool too if they want to go more obscure.

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Gigi A

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The thread is just making me wish Capcom would make a Mecha fighter again with guests from their other games.

PTX-40A
BX-02 Blodia
G. Kaiser
Z-Akuma
Mobilsuit
 

Clov

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We got Ridley in Smash... but what about Kraid?

Maybe Doshin the Giant, but with some sort of mechanic where he grows in size if he's doing well?
 

SasaBassa

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Devil Dinosaur, Fin Fang Foom, Kree Sentry and/or a Celestial for Marvel
PTX, Steel Battalion, Blodia, Z-Akuma for Capcom
 

Neoxon

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Devil Dinosaur could be a giant with the unique feature of having an assist (Moongirl)
If anything, the other way around would be more interesting. If I'm not mistaken, DD isn't much taller than MvC's Sentinel (around 9ft). Plus you can have a Level 3 where Moon Girl swaps consciousnesses with Devil Dinosaur temporarily.

As for giants, the concept was inherently flawed back in TvC, so I'd rather they not revisit it (as much as the idea of Monster Hunter taking on Rathalos in a fighting game format would be hype).