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Carrie-Anne Moss (Matrix, Memento, Silent Hill: Revelation) was offered a grandmother role literally the day after her 40th birthday

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"Matrix" star Carrie-Anne Moss opened up about ageism and life in Hollywood for an actress after 40 during a frank discussion with author and filmmaker Justine Bateman.

Moss, 53, who returns to her universe-saving role as Trinity in "The Matrix 4" (due out Dec. 21), revealed that she was offered the role of a grandmother for a different project the day after her 40th birthday.

"I had heard that at 40 everything changed," said Moss in the wide-ranging talk at New York's 92nd Street Y on April 1, according to The Hollywood Reporter. "I didn't believe in that because I don't believe in just jumping on a thought system that I don't really align with. But literally the day after my 40th birthday, I was reading a script that had come to me and I was talking to my manager about it. She was like, 'Oh, no, no, no, it's not that role (you're reading for), it's the grandmother.'"
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"I may be exaggerating a bit, but it happened overnight," Moss added. "I went from being a girl to the mother to beyond the mother."

The actress said it was a tough transition to mentally process in part because male actors don't experience ageism in the same manner.

"It's a stereotypical story, working with men that are so much older and aging," Moss said. "And people are enjoying the aging of them. While I'm much younger than they are."
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Carrie-Anne Moss says she was offered grandmother role 'literally the day after my 40th birthday'

"I went from being a girl to the mother to beyond the mother," Carrie-Anne Moss said in a talk about Hollywood and aging with Justine Bateman.
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Dodge this if old
 
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One thing that was really jarring when watching Mank was seeing Gary Oldman and Tuppence Middleton play a married couple when he's almost double her age... and the people they're playing were around the same age in reality.

I mean, the problem more broadly is that she was closer to the right age and Gary Oldman was at least two decades too old for the character (and it's set over a decade), but it's still classic Hollywood.
 
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Koukalaka said:
One thing that was really jarring when watching Mank was seeing Gary Oldman and Tuppence Middleton play a married couple when he's almost double her age... and the people they're playing were around the same age in reality.

I mean, the problem more broadly is that she was closer to the right age and Gary Oldman was at least two decades too old for the character (and it's set over a decade), but it's still classic Hollywood.
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Gary Oldman is kind of an exception though. He's exceptional at transforming into whatever you need him to be.
 
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AndyD said:
Gary Oldman is kind of an exception though. He's exceptional at transforming into whatever you need him to be.
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Yeah, he definitely makes the role work in a way pretty much any other actor his age couldn't - and there's the "world-weary alcoholic" element of the performance that would be tricky for 35-45 year olds to pull off.
 
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mbpm said:
She was in a Silent Hill movie? Huh.

Also smh at this ageism
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Z-Beat said:
She was in Silent Hill Revelation?
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I mean, people complained that Marisa Tomei was too young in her early 50s to play the aunt of Peter Parker.

I love her answer in an interview though. The reporter goes "marvel fans say you're too young, sexy and hot to play Aunt May" and she interrupts him and goes "I know, right!?". End of that conversation lol

Ageism against women in Hollywood sucks, then you have dudes who are 70 playing a 40 year old who dates a 25 years old.
 
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I'm not saying the issue doesn't exist. People in general, not just hollywood, seem to judge women harder as they age. Dudes get the benefit of the "dad bod" and there's no analogue for women for instance.

With that said I do remember thinking she looked much older than I last remember when I saw her in the Netflix Marvel shows. She's the same age as queen latifah and halle berry.
 

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There was a hashtag trending the other day:

#dontlookyouragechallenge

Most of the people posting were women. Hollywood is one example of it - and perpetuates it - but society at large places a ton of expectations on women to look youthful.

Meanwhile, men are constantly reminded that we'll only be more attractive as we age. Things only get better in that realm.

Ironically, women are pressured to look young, but mature faster. Or maybe that not ironic at all. Maybe that's the intention.
 
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That is just stupid dumb. I know it's possible to be a grandmother at 40, but I imagine this wasn't a movie about teen pregnancy.

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Same deal in porn unfortunately. You're a woman who hits 30 and suddenly all your videos have milf in the title
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Never trust porn titles. Otherwise, we'd have a serious step-sibling sex epidemic going on.
Hell, I saw an actress I knew was 18 (and likely hasn't had a kid) be labeled a MILF. These things aren't accurate.
 
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Seems like a tough situation. Popular actresses likely benefit from casting favoring youth on the front end of their career and then suffer from it on the back end. One of Hollywood's many problematic casting issues.
 

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In Hollywood you're either 25 playing a 15 year old high school student or you're 40 playing a 90 year old.
 
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Djalminha said:
I mean, people complained that Marisa Tomei was too young in her early 50s to play the aunt of Peter Parker.

I love her answer in an interview though. The reporter goes "marvel fans say you're too young, sexy and hot to play Aunt May" and she interrupts him and goes "I know, right!?". End of that conversation lol

Ageism against women in Hollywood sucks, then you have dudes who are 70 playing a 40 year old who dates a 25 years old.
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Well, to be fair, that is different. Tomei passes for about a decade younger than she is and people are used to seeing Aunt May as a grandmotherly figure.
 
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AndyD said:
Gary Oldman is kind of an exception though. He's exceptional at transforming into whatever you need him to be.
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he's kind of not though? In Mank he's supposed to be like, early 30s at certain points. and not only does he not even remotely look the part age-wise at any point, he's put alongside Amanda Seyfried as marion davies who's supposed to be the exact same age yet is actually 30 years younger, which only makes it more noticeable. that plus how the movie depicts Orson, who's supposed to be a mid-20s wunderkind, as pretty clearly in his 30s...they just fucked up, it was a movie written by a dead man and directed by a man near 60 who thinks that stuff isn't obvious or important any more because he's old, but it totally throws off the movie.
 
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OneTrueJack said:
Well, to be fair, that is different. Tomei passes for about a decade younger than she is and people are used to seeing Aunt May as a grandmotherly figure.
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I don't think it's any different, to claim that she is too young to play the aunt of a 20 year old, even if she was in her thirties. If anything, regular depictions of May are unusually old.

And God what a breath of fresh air she is, arguably the best thing in those new movies. Fans are often stupid, a new old May baking cookies would have been boring and uninteresting to death.
 
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Djalminha said:
I don't think it's any different, to claim that she is too young to play the aunt of a 20 year old, even if she was in her thirties. If anything, regular depictions of May are unusually old.

And God what a breath of fresh air she is, arguably the best thing in those new movies. Fans are often stupid, a new old May baking cookies would have been boring and uninteresting to death.
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I agree, it was a breath of fresh air and made a lot more logical sense than the traditional depictions of the character. That being said, it was only natural that casting an actress that looks like she's in her 40s to play a character most people think of as being in her late 60s-80s would cause people to do a double-take.
 
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I think it also depends on the market position of the actress. Johansson still plays black widow with almost 40, Jolie pretty much plays everything, McCarthy plays younger roles (but the chubby ones), Theron plays younger roles and the same goes for Aniston.
However, way less woman have such a market position than men.
 

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Movie industry is trash. It is even worse in Bollywood, or used to be. Actresses in their 30s wouldn't even get any roles.
 
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behOemoth said:
I think it also depends on the market position of the actress. Johansson still plays black widow with almost 40, Jolie pretty much plays everything, McCarthy plays younger roles (but the chubby ones), Theron plays younger roles and the same goes for Aniston.
However, way less woman have such a market position than men.
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She's 36, and was 35 and younger for all of the filming of the movies...
 
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