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Cause it is Black History Month, lets read the letter Dwayne Mcduffie( creator of Static & co-creator of Ben10) sent to marvel about black characters.
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He is referring to and Night Thrasher and Rocket Racer. 4 years later he would launch Milestone comics.
"his own agenda"? Stopping Juggernaut is an agenda now? I knew never liked justice or whatever his dumb name is.
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Grounded, pun not intended, in the racist myth black people can't swim
Vance is shit. Whether marvel boy, justice, whatever his guardians version was called, dude sucks.
He didn't. He came on board the franchise with Alien Force as writer and editor, though.
I can't tell if what you're saying is reaching, but I never did figure out the lightning thing, and standard racism being the cause wouldn't be surprising. Didn't notice the skateboarding thing either.
Not implying you're wrong, I really don't know.
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The first black superheroes were created in a time when Falcon's origin involved him being a pimp and his writers called him "FalCOON" behind closed doors. And when Hal jordan called his side kick "Pieface" because he couldn't be bothered to remember his name and he happened to be an eskimo.
Oh yeah, no doubt there.
I figured SOME kind of stereotyping drove the lightning thing, just couldn't figure out what it is.
My favorite Ben 10 series honestly. Both Alien Force and Ultimate Alien. The dynamic between Ben, Kevin, and Gwen was fantastic. Of course when he eventually left the series regressed Ben's development back to the kid days.
Can't forget all of his excellent work on the Justice League shows as well.
I think he'd be getting a ton of work and we'd be getting a ton of great black superhero shows right now if he were still alive. Still hurts.
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For the cartoon, absolutely, they really dumbed the character down for the cartoon.
3 years later and the laugh it got from the audience when I brought this up during my presentation on McDuffie in my Public Speaking class is still my favorite moment
Yeah for as much as I love X-Men Evolution the creative team falling into this with Spyke... yeesh
Spyke was the worst and was everything wrong with the 'cool' 2000's character.
At least he got better once became a Morlock but then he barely appeared.
Also the show did Storm dirty as well.
Yep, I personally really liked his work on Ben 10. Sucks everyone tried to undo his characterizations and plots after he died, which is kind of sus.
And of course he is the father of the Justice League and JLU which truly makes him the GOAT.
McDuffie is my favorite. He wrote soooo many good stories. He was taken too soon. This letter is fire and outlines my problem with black characters in comics up until recently… when Marvel wanted more diversity, they didn't hire black creatives, they (white people) created Black Panther. Same with DC. These companies took a long time to learn the right lessons.
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Yep, I still got some Milestone comics.
<3 Hardware and Blood Syndicate. Folks not ready for those stories.
<3 Hardware and Blood Syndicate. Folks not ready for those stories.
Are there any stand outs? Would definitely love to read what might be some of Mcduffie's best works? Otherwise I might just see if I can find an omnibus/collection and just go ham.
11. What is time anymore? It seems to go by too quickly now.
Ground, as in relation to electric current, gives a path for electric potential to disperse safely. Also electricity and water having well-troped examples in media as opposing elemental forces, based on water conductivity (*There is more to explore here*).
I have now ruined the unintended pun.
I got the pun, what I didn't understand was how the racist myth("black people can't swim!") led to black superheroes having lightning powers.
Also, there's an upcoming movie - it's being produced by Michael B. Jordan
I posted on Toon Zone during the JL/OG Teen Titans era, Mr McDuffie ran his own site and board of course but he would post there too. It was a great time. He would never suffer fools, I wish I could read some of those old posts again. The man was a legend and if you haven't seen his work you owe it to yourself, go seek out something he's done. He practically ran the DCAU in its twilight years, and it was glorious.
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*facepalm*
Duh, I'm dumb. Ultimate Bear Cub 's post already explained it but I couldn't connect the dots.
cannot believe dude's been gone over a decade now, shit
wait for real? how did i not know this
looking at fuckery likeakira yoshida c b beluski still move up without accountability, it's hard to be optimistic here (though shit is definitely better than it was)
wait for real? how did i not know this
looking at fuckery like
Interesting that the stereotype revolves around electrical powers and not fire based powers then
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I can count black characters i know of with fire based powers on one hand, and oddly enough all of them have first and ice powers. My favorite being Equinox The Thermal Dynamic Man, because it is fun to say
