at 17:00 there is a call to make the biggest protest yet. It's friday and there are going to be strikes all over the country so it's very likely a huge lot of people will go to their respective city or town plazas
Thanks! I know you all will send a message!
I wish you the bestof luck
The day started with public transportation and trucks strike, in support of protests and specifically about the expensive fares of driving though roads (also private). Several highways closed,
UN Human Rights mission arrives on monday to support the overseeing work of INDH, will be here for 4 weeks
UN Human Rights mission arrives on monday to support the overseeing work of INDH, will be here for 4 weeks
I wish I could go to today's protests, but my mental health has been deteriorating and triggering my social anxiety doesn't sound like a way to help with that. Also, my hip still hurts :(
I'm sorry that I'm only now replying, I didn't see that you quoted me.
Yesterday, there's been a new segment from Tagesschau (the news show I mentioned), which for the first time now talked about deaths caused by government forces. Sadly, there's still both siding in the article. Here's a link to the google translated version (translation works quite well): Tagesschau
The german exterior minister is Heiko Maas, but I couldn't find any comments he or his ministry made about the situation in Chile.
Take care of yourself first and foremost.
This will not end soon, maybe the mass hysteria over robbing and stuff will end soon, but the protest? Who knows when it'll end. And they shouldn't until significative change has been achieved.
Thanks!
It's not that bad of an article, I guess that's as good as reporting can get without being more involved in investigations.
This however:
" President Piñera announced a series of social measures in the wake of the riots on Tuesday evening, including an increase in the minimum pension and the minimum wage, lower drug prices, higher taxes for top earners and a reduction in the salaries of parliamentarians and ministers. But he could not soothe the protesters. "
Pension: Only the most poorer pensions get an 20% increase, that in reality makes close to 28 USD (which is basically nothing), leaving it still like 4 times under the line of poverty.
Minimum wage: it was already going from 301.000 CLP to 330.000 CLP in January, state will subsidize another 20.000 CLP to those earning less than 350.000 CLP. Another 27.6USD increase that is subsidized.
"higer taxes for top earners": This is a wage tax, and not corporate tax. Piñera's reform to "relief" 883 MILLION dollars to the 1% richer is still ongoing and they have no intention of pulling it back.
Lower drug prices: A subsidize to privates and a deal on some prices to drop.
Reduction of salaries of parlament: A project has been sleeping in congress for 5 years, and it's only now being actually going to move thanks to protests. Reduction on ministers salaries is new at leasr.
You can now know why no one cared about his measures.
I don't know the context of the photo, the scene just struck something in me. Maybe because the old dude looks a little like an old uncle of me. Stay safe, Chili-Era.
Shit, I'll see what I can find so we can know what was going on. He may have been robbed, or it may be another thing.
A couple of years ago, a homeowner shot dead a guy that sprayed a graffity on his wall during a protest. People defended it saying he was protecting his "private property".
EDIT: seems this is from Barcelona, but the source I find was this https://www.volkskrant.nl/video/aarsman-collectie-nog-een-paar-seconden~p108527
Inconsistencies between death reports from medical school and government
Government official number of deaths are now 19, they recognized a Peruvian man that was shot during a looting incident several days ago.
Colegio Medico number stated yesterday still hasn't got a written source, nor the video of the meeting has been uploaded, which makes me feel uneasy.
EDIT: Meeting is up, but was unlisted. BUT the video is cut short at 20 minutes long. The meeting is longer, Colegio Medico was left out of the video. Probably a mistake (I hope).
At the very end of the video, President of INDH says that they are asking to speed the autopsies because more bodes are on the morgue.
Colegio Medico number stated yesterday still hasn't got a written source, nor the video of the meeting has been uploaded, which makes me feel uneasy.
EDIT: Meeting is up, but was unlisted. BUT the video is cut short at 20 minutes long. The meeting is longer, Colegio Medico was left out of the video. Probably a mistake (I hope).
At the very end of the video, President of INDH says that they are asking to speed the autopsies because more bodes are on the morgue.
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Shall we keep it? Or should we just keep the government one?
See my edit, the meeting was uploaded a few hours ago but wasn't properly listed. It's incomplete also, set a threadmark so people know why numbers are off. There is a comunicational blockade
Been reading about this on the news but I didn't realize Era had a thread on it. Some of my friends have been keeping me updated too... I don't even know what to say. I have no way to put into words how much I admire the courage of the Chilean people in face of an increasingly cruel government.
Força, irmãos Latino-americanos!
Força, irmãos Latino-americanos!
I hope stability goes back to Chile as soon as possible and the government (congress and executive) approves some important social reforms.
It's a really beautiful country which I've enjoyed greatly visiting and the most developed from SA, especially when compared with my own, Brazil.
It's a really beautiful country which I've enjoyed greatly visiting and the most developed from SA, especially when compared with my own, Brazil.
Just the main plaza, this is from before 5 PM
EDIT: Streets 5:10 PM:
Everytime we read or hear something like this we say "shit, how bad are the rest then?" and yeah, SA in general is far poorer than it should be. Cold war and Monroe Doctrine left us very damaged. We could have developed much better.
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Perfect excuse for those cowards to not vote any laws that could change anything
"Piñera motherfucker, killer, learn how to govern" is the chant
They reintegrated minutes later. But a protester got in:
Government officials estimates that, just on Plaza Baquedano (PIctured in the photos) there are 250.000 protesters. Just on the Plaza, just on the capital.
Wednesday was the highest point before, with 170.000 protesters
Wednesday was the highest point before, with 170.000 protesters
This is amazing. This must be a record of attendance to the protest, holy shit.
Fuck Piñera.
IDK about the others countries, but the economic and social situation in Chile is a lot, a lot better than in Brazil and Argentina, where the majors cities are full of favelas, really high criminality and major social problems. (Argentina being worse since they haven't been able to stop inflation since forever) Maybe only Uruguai is comparable, but I haven't been there (I want to go someday, though!)
Of course, that's no reason to stop protesting and demanding for a fairer economic system, which we all should demand from our governments
Yeah I understand your point. Latin America is a fucked place, crime has been left alone as a way of mass control basically. Our dictatorship had nexus with narcs and helped quite a bit.
Some fun here.
This is the War Piñera and his wife imagined.
(There was a chilean Doom clone called "Pinochestein", about a political prisoner escaping a torture center. Youtube comment on this: "Pinochestein 2: Piñera on Earth")
Oh, I know about the Pinochestein lmao
I've never played the mod though. (I love some Doom mods and I've made some myself >.<)
Update: Official GOVERNMENT (Normally underestimated) now says there are HALF A MILLION PEOPLE (and counting) just on the Santiago's Plaza Baquedano.
Yup, huge chunk of people still arriving. I wonder what the total number in the country is
This is some 20 to 25 minutes walking from the plaza, lots and lots of people walking towards it. Cops won't be able to disperse the protest, curfew starts at 23 hours. Constitutional Lawyers said that arresting durgin the curfew in an emergency state is illegal so.. I wonder what will happen.
Far-right is calling to counter-protest this sunday. The last time they protest, this was the ammount of people:
This is some 20 to 25 minutes walking from the plaza, lots and lots of people walking towards it. Cops won't be able to disperse the protest, curfew starts at 23 hours. Constitutional Lawyers said that arresting durgin the curfew in an emergency state is illegal so.. I wonder what will happen.
Far-right is calling to counter-protest this sunday. The last time they protest, this was the ammount of people:
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Yup, huge chunk of people still arriving. I wonder what the total number in the country is
This is some 20 to 25 minutes walking from the plaza, lots and lots of people walking towards it. Cops won't be able to disperse the protest, curfew starts at 23 hours. Constitutional Lawyers said that arresting durgin the curfew in an emergency state is illegal so.. I wonder what will happen.
Far-right is calling to counter-protest this sunday. The last time they protest, this was the ammount of people:
That was their pathetic anti-immigrant protest. Fuck them all, pieces of shit.
Yup, huge chunk of people still arriving. I wonder what the total number in the country is
This is some 20 to 25 minutes walking from the plaza, lots and lots of people walking towards it. Cops won't be able to disperse the protest, curfew starts at 23 hours. Constitutional Lawyers said that arresting durgin the curfew in an emergency state is illegal so.. I wonder what will happen.
Far-right is calling to counter-protest this sunday. The last time they protest, this was the ammount of people:
A funar a los FACHOOOOOOS
Official number Is More than a million already.
Last Time there were at least half that number was when Pinochet left
Last Time there were at least half that number was when Pinochet left
One million, this is something incredible, history being written
This is the real Chile, this is what represents all of Latin America, not some neoliberal puppets pretending that everything is ok. This righteous anger is what makes me proud to be a part of this continent and its culture
This is the real Chile, this is what represents all of Latin America, not some neoliberal puppets pretending that everything is ok. This righteous anger is what makes me proud to be a part of this continent and its culture