avellone is getting paid a seven figure sum or did i understand the text wrong?
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avellone is getting paid a seven figure sum or did i understand the text wrong?
Aye, he's getting the pay out for this case. Dismissed with Prejudice, meaning those two claims against him can't be refiled.
As others have mentioned, there's more claims against him so this doesn't absolve him of everything.
You can't get paid with what isn't there. Those ladies don't have 7 figures between them. He'll get partial pay if they have some kind of insurance but will likely just see small checks garnished from their paychecks for years to come.
That's a pretty wild settlement in favor of Avellone, the hell kind of evidence did he have on his side?
Still, thats a big statement in favor of him, seems like he was burned based on fake claims, something that unfortunately only weakens women who were actually harassed.
OP should update the thread title.
It's a statement though. You do not just award 7 figure damages in a he said she said scenario.
So I dont know the specifics of the settlement but a possible series of events - if the anti-SLAPP appeal was successful, the plaintiff gets to immediately appeal that decision.
I'm wondering if defendants just ran out of money to be able to challenge another round and basically had to settle here.
I'm wondering if defendants just ran out of money to be able to challenge another round and basically had to settle here.
Oh was this a civil case? Haven't been following the details.
The women's claims being dismissed by the judge with prejudice, and him being awarded 7 figures Is very telling.
Correct. Libel is incredibly hard to prove.
Looks like he had evidence to his prior statements of "I wasn't even in the same country as these women on the date they're alleging that I interacted with them"
Yeah... obviously I have no idea if Chris is actually innocent or not. But imagining that he is, his reputation will never recover, he'll always have these accusations attached to him of the rest of his life. So a sizable settlement would be warranted IMO. If he's innocent, which again I have zero clue one way or the other.
Even if he isn't completely innocent, these false claims will taint every other one. If he is actually innocent, good for him.
Agreed, random people on the internet are much more reliable and trustworthy.
I agree with you on one hand, and love your takes generally, but on the other I feel like your post is evincing what is suggested by other posters: nothing will clear this dude's name.
Not retractions, not dismissals with prejudice, not a million dollar settlement in his favor.
I think the legal system is fucked for case like this, but this result seems unusually forceful and comprehensive. That's hard to disregard for me personally.
I don't really see anyone assuming that he's absolutely innocent, but the outcome suggests he had compelling evidence and we're wondering what that could have been.
False reports of assault are very rare but they do happen (around 5% of the time), so if the scenario makes it as far as the defendant receiving a settlement then you have to consider if it's possibly one of those times. In the end though none of us will ever know.
Interesting that this and the Roiland one came out around the same time. I wonder if either of their reputations recover.
Granted, I guess in both cases there were other accusations *not* in court?
Granted, I guess in both cases there were other accusations *not* in court?
Libel in a civil suit has a very high bar. Him being able to force them into a high monetary settlement and public statements says a lot about the merits of at least their statements against him.
Back in 2021 Avellone detailed a lot of stuff on his medium blog, including evidence that was submitted
chrisavellone.medium.com
It’s Come To This
Since “updates” can usually get lost in the noise, the most recent updates are put first.
chrisavellone.medium.com
Yeah these things are so damaging to all the people involved and to progress s a whole. He'll always be Chris "May or may not have committed sexual assault" Avellone, and the only people who are really going to embrace him are going to be the shitheads who love to amplify every time there's a false accusation as if that delegitimizes all other accusations.
Would you write the same if he lost this case?
Anyway, his reputation is damaged either way and it's fucked up if those accusations were false.
What does this mean? That he was automatically guilty and even the evidence presented in court means nothing?
The intimation is that he must be guilty despite overwhelming evidence.
I hate cases like this because there's only three things that happened, and they're all terrible.
Either
1) An innocent man is always going to be tarnished, plus genuine victims are always going to have to deal with "is this just another Avellone case?"
2) A guilty man is getting a shitload of cash, and his victims no justice
3) A man guilty of other crimes, but innocent of this one, is basically getting 2) whilst his victims have to deal with the whispers from 1).
Literally nobody wins.
Either
1) An innocent man is always going to be tarnished, plus genuine victims are always going to have to deal with "is this just another Avellone case?"
or
2) A guilty man is getting a shitload of cash, and his victims no justice
or
3) A man guilty of other crimes, but innocent of this one, is basically getting 2) whilst his victims have to deal with the whispers from 1).
Literally nobody wins.
A other example of why trials aren't played out on Twitter , so what happens to the people who dragged him through all this...? Are they loosing their jobs and careers? Certainly hope so.
Really shitty if the accusations were false, very unexpected outcome
Combine that with the weirdo DMs going around between him and his underage fans…. He's gonna need a LOT more than he's currently got to clear his name
As things currently stand the two cases seem quite different. Roiland's was dismissed because the alleged victim didn't have the evidence to prove her claims Beyond a Reasonable Doubt. This is a reeeaally high bar for abuse victims to clear given the typically private nature of these crimes, which is a big reason the legal system doesn't tend to be suitable for these kinds of cases. Like the court could end up 80% sure of Roiland's guilt and it still wouldn't be enough to secure a conviction.
Combine that with the weirdo DMs going around between him and his underage fans…. He's gonna need a LOT more than he's currently got to clear his name
Back in 2021 Avellone detailed a lot of stuff on his medium blog, including evidence that was submitted
It’s Come To This
Since “updates” can usually get lost in the noise, the most recent updates are put first.
If reading that is true, her own witness basically said her story was bullshit.
A libel suit is quite a bit harder to get and win. So he likely had some pretty damning evidence.
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Greg Doucette seems to be pretty skeptical about the payout claim. That said he's been butting heads with Avellone supporters in the same way he has with the Mignogna fans, so who knows?
View: https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1639596002742001666
View: https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1639619350595354625
View: https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1639596002742001666
View: https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1639619350595354625
So this means the accusations were lies originally? Says it was dismissed with prejudice as well meaning evidence was likely overwhelmingly against the accuser.
Not sure how to feel about this. This ain't the first time we're seeing this across the entertainment industry. Happens far too often too (Johnny Depp).
Not sure how to feel about this. This ain't the first time we're seeing this across the entertainment industry. Happens far too often too (Johnny Depp).
He passed a very high bar here, as others have mentioned. He deserves some benefit of the doubt. The evidence must have been greatly overwhelming in his favor.
Hate when shit like this happens. Abusing a good movement in metoo to cause potentially irreversible harm to innocent men.
So should CA not have used the legal system to try and clear him name? What other outlet is there?
A quick search shows Chris filed a different lawsuit, separate from the one this guy is referring to (and seemingly couldn't be bothered to look up before trying to dunk on people)
Avellone v. Barrows, 3:22-cv-02247 - CourtListener.com
Docket for Avellone v. Barrows, 3:22-cv-02247 — Brought to you by Free Law Project, a non-profit dedicated to creating high quality open legal information.
A quick glance through it shows it went to mediation.
I think you mean the "internet "
The internet frequently engages in a culture of "trial by social media," prematurely accusing and vilifying individuals without proper investigation or due process.
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