Chris Philp: ‘Are Rwanda and Congo different countries?’
The Conservative policing minister has been mocked for his gaffe on BBC’s Question Time
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Chris Philp (English conservative minister) asks on BBC Question Time ‘Are Rwanda and Congo different countries?’
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Tory in 'ignorant of the basic reality of the world but ploughing on with a counter productive, enormously expensive, unethical and performative bit of cruelty because it plays well with a minority of British voters who are awful but happen to live in the right seats in the right numbers oh and dressing it up as common sense' shocker.
Should point out that Chris Philp isn't some random backbencher, he's our policing minister, so presumably would get some actual say and input on who gets sent to Rwanda.
He's also so thick he can't spell his surname right, and the rest of us just have to deal with that.
He's also so thick he can't spell his surname right, and the rest of us just have to deal with that.
The ignorance when it comes to Africa is well ingrained into western countries. You'll more often see Africa being referred to as if it's a country rather than a continent.
Almost the same thing with Asia and how when someone says Asia they usually mean south east and east Asia.
Basically, plenty of geographical ignorance among white people.
Almost the same thing with Asia and how when someone says Asia they usually mean south east and east Asia.
Basically, plenty of geographical ignorance among white people.
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It's incredible how every single person is managing to express a different variant of "are you fucking serious?" here. Art.
I'm expecting europeans to be a bit more knowledgeable about african countries just on account of Europe having fucked with those countries across our history.
You'd think so. But it's not like that has been taught properly in schools. European countries tried to sweep that under the rug for decades.
For example, with Sweden I was not taught about the horrific things we did to the Sami people here. And that's within the country!
Not to mention what Sweden did during the 17th and 18th century regarding slaves.
I've seen the clip a few times and I have to be wholly honest it doesn't seem like a genuine question. It seems like he basically ignored everything the young man said, got confused, and then the 'question' was rhetorical to specify the point.
I mean, Tories are broadly speaking absolute fucking idiots, but I'm not seeing this clip how most people are.
I mean, Tories are broadly speaking absolute fucking idiots, but I'm not seeing this clip how most people are.
I think most white people in Europe at the very least will know the difference between African countries, we may not be able to name all of them from our heads but we do get taught a lot about world geography at least in the UK. I think this is a problem for Americans because from what I understand most of geography is learning about all the different states in the US rather than learning about the world. That's why there's Americans who think London is a country or don't know the different European countries even, let alone Africa.
I've met a lot of Europeans over my lifetime and I don't think I've ever seen people refer to Africa as a country outside of them saying South Africa which is one.
Yeah, sure, I'm not saying the bar is high. But I'm expecting people to know Rwanda and Congo are different countries.
And we're talking about someone IN the british governement here.
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Oh yeah, a politician should absolutely be expected to know this. But it's a Tory so...
I think you can see it that way and still see it as idiotic. You are a politician on question time and you word a question like that then it's going to be called out, rhetorical or not. Personally, the more damning part, as you say, is the first part where he does quite clearly misses up refugees from Rwanda and the Congo.
Yeah, doesn't sound like he's being thick, sounds more like he's just being a condescending twat.
I took as he's not really saying "Congo and Rwanda are two different countries, aren't they?"
What I took it to mean is: "Congo and Rwanda are two different countries. Which answers your question."
Which was because even he knew the optics of saying "Yes we'll ship people from countries that Rwanda doesn't like to Rwanda" out loud sounds horrendous.
The original mix up still makes him look like a thick fucking bell-end though.
Spot-on. It would turn their worldview upside down if they saw and understood the richness, the vast diversity of people and cultures all over the world.
Yeah, the least they could do is keep up with the geography of the continent they've fucked so much.
(Watch as someone rightfully asks "which continent")
Yeah, I think this is a garden variety instance of a politician being less-informed than the average person. I don't think I've ever met anyone in the UK or Europe who couldn't name at least five different African countries.
A lot of people won't know the difference between the two Congos, but I don't think it's accurate to say that most British / European people treat Africa as a single country.
Bro, I'm a french dude with parents who immigrated from Portugal >_>
And I'm not saying europeans should have some knowledge out of guilt or some shit. Just following the news a bit will get you some knowledge from the neocolanialist shit still going on is what I'm getting at.
I wasn't taught about the Congo at school, or Kenya, etc. but I did learn enough to fucking open a map and a few history books and do it myself - and that's the case for many more people than this Tory prick represents as an MP, I warrant.
Yeah, this makes more sense to me
Really does expose quite succinctly how ill thought out this policy is. For such an enormous amount of money invested, I just can't see the logic. Maybe the photoshoot the day the first plane leaves will make some Tories cheer, but I will be looking at it with disgust.
That's fine. I too often forget that England is it's own country and not just the dying half of the cancer cell that mitosised into America.
This really needs to be a new meme template.
And on topic do these fuckers not feel any kind of shame? Even embarrassment? Honestly I wish I had that kind of skill to even a mild degree, if I ever entered politics and was told part of my recorded history will have me saying the phrase "I was ambushed by cake." I'd honestly go to cultivate plants or something instead.
