He's responding about lifetime revenue for Sony titles. It was in response to this:
View: https://x.com/wowitzdave/status/1785703332943913349
He's responding about lifetime revenue for Sony titles. It was in response to this:
View: https://x.com/wowitzdave/status/1785703332943913349
Well then... I think it looks like this:
1. God of War: Ragnarok
2. God of War 2018
3. Spider-Man 1
4. Spider-Man 2
5. Spider-Man Miles Morales
6. Ghost of Tsushima
7. Helldivers 2
(Not sure where to place SM2. Above or below SM1? 🤔)
I knew that XV was up there but had no idea it was 1st in the US. I'm glad that Squeenix nurtured the talent that made that game to capitalize on the successes of that product while addressing its shortcomings. Oh wait.
Rebirth doing better than I expected, dunno what the I'm in danger tweet was about.
Good to see Ronin up there, feels like the sort of game that will have decent legs and WoM especially once it hits other platforms.
Rebirth doing better than I expected, dunno what the I'm in danger tweet was about.
Good to see Ronin up there, feels like the sort of game that will have decent legs and WoM especially once it hits other platforms.
Unless you are BF or COD, launching at $70 against various established franchises, some that have been updating their latest release for years is such a mountain to climb. They could take the XDefiant path of launch f2p, but if they can make a compelling case for $40 it may be fine as well.
Going by what Matt said, surprised that Ghost has done better than Tlou 2 in the US. Going by the leaked info we got earlier in the week, that would mean Tlou 2 did a decent bit better outside of the US (compared to Ghost) if I'm understanding all the data correctly?
The Last of Us part II sold over 10 million copies 2 years ago
I guess it needs to be said here to lol
View: https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1785717895697477846?t=8T-L3QNoUrkqDzs-sZUQgA&s=19
View: https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1785717895697477846?t=8T-L3QNoUrkqDzs-sZUQgA&s=19
Europe has better taste than USThe Last of Us part II sold over 10 million copies 2 years ago
Bet here is above Ghost and GoW
The fact that people can't use their brains and that Mat has to say it out plain and clear to avoid getting heat, is kind of amazing in the worst way.
Ghost of Tsushima was huge outside the US. It's a million seller in Japan. The worldwide sales numbers for both are very similar.
TLOU2: 10 million after 2 years.
Ghost of Tsushima: 9.73 million after 2 years.
Fantastic numbers for a new IP.
There have been a lot of toxic people agitating over this. It's weird!
and we just went through the exact same thing with FFXVI lol
Eh, Ronin would've probably done much better, but I suspect PC gamers would've largely sat out Rebirth because Square support out of nowhere without a clear commitment would've just made it into a "let's give them a few years and see if they'll still be good for it" sort of exercise. There's also the likelihood that PC gamers generally aren't chomping at the bit to play Rebirth given how the last round of late ports went, and considering the point of these exclusivity deals, from Sony's point of view, is to sort interested parties into the PS camp by default, if they were interested, they likely have a PS5 and bought it within the launch period.
Ive no idea where your getting the above from, but we've already seen series seen sales boosts on them just being on PC day 1. Including JRPGs. So yeah, it would have pulled in decent sales I think.
It stopped the game from selling a ton more at launch.
The game had 200K CCU day 1. Day 2 and 3 (Sat and Sun) CCU only had an increase of 28K on Steam..
Still doing extremely well as indicated by OP. All I was getting at. I'm sure the circus did affect things, but the sequel to a niche game like DD1 performing like that is still great.
Ofcourse It sold really well. Just saying that it did halt in sales due to the outrage.
If you're talking about Sega, Atlus, Capcom, and Namco, well, they don't have the baggage that Square saddled themselves with regarding FFVIIR's initial release strategy, and have demonstrated a fairly good release strategy on PC prior to their most successful recent releases.
Not much trust for Square in the PC community right now. It'll take a few years of good work to reverse that, and a VIIR2 day one release's performance would've made that somewhat clearer (while confusing the hell out of SE most likely). I think there might be a sales bump for Rebirth's eventual PC release once people see footage for R3 AND Square reveals it's coming to PC day one.
There seems to be more rage quaking over HD2 numbers and if the PS5 secretly sucks or not
DD2 selling more than Rebirth even tho it released a month after it is both impressive for DD2 and sad for Rebirth.
All this and the debate is about a game that cost $40 and the game prices this gen went to $70.
So basically both companies are now focusing on the other sku.
Sony pushed the disc version heavily since 2020, MS did that for the Series S.
Thank god for the Series S! Don't want to think about where Xbox would be without it. Especially when it was the only available SKU for like a year.
The leak from early 2022 had these values in terms of revenue from SIEA (rounded, million $):
Spider-Man - 471
God of War - 328
Uncharted 4 - 304
Ghost of Tsushima (including DC) - 245
Miles Morales - 239
The Last of Us Part II - 219
Horizon Zero Dawn - 216
Ofc this is from all America and not just US.
Hard to say honestly. Without the Series S, the Series X probably isn't designed the same way and is likely cheaper to manufacture.
OG FF7 retailed for 49.99 USD, not sure why you think it released for 34.99. It was a cultural milestone game whereas Rebirth is just another AAA game that's exclusive to one platform and ignoring the huge market growth of other competing platforms.
Just another example that SE needs to go multi-platform.
Hard to say really, maybe with no Series S they have an easier to manufacture console. Who knows?
Maybe I'm not connecting proper dots but what would that matter for console sales?
OG FF7 also had 27 years of sales on tremendous amount of platforms. Even 16 couldn't catch FF7 OG yet despite selling better than Rebirth (at least initially) and being out for 10 months.
Rebirth is definitely not gonna stay #14 forever, we dont really have a frame of reference to say how good/bad this performance is compared to other titles though. Its really more of an interesting bit of data rather than something you can really make a lot of assumptions of.
I mean once a game is past its initial launch period, it'll only sell like 300 copies after that. Just look at original Uncharted. Remember the joke how it was uncharted in the NPD top 20? I think it only sold like 2000 copies ever
Was wandering about the +%:)… It's been edited to
- US : -16%
- UK : -15%
- EU : 0%
- also JP: -40%+
If there was only one design they'd be able to make more and thus sell more. Who knows what that console would be if it was just one SKU though.
remember shipments vs sales. I think they will beat 4.2m; their target.
Better designed so you're not having to chose between what I think 3 Series S systems for one Series X or however the split was. The shortage was in part due to this. Also the design philosophy. If you didn't design the Series S to effectively be your price drop it's quite possible the Series X is designed in a way that's both cheaper to produce and profitable in a way those savings can be passed on to consumers. Again, the Series X has a lot of demand, just not at $499.
It's just hard to say. Without the Series S, the Series X doesn't exist. It's probably named different, designed different and powered different. Anaconda from the jump was always two systems. To get the full suite of changes you'd have to go back to 2016-17.
There's this really weird narrative that consoles are doomed and everyone under 30 uses PC. I have no idea why people suddenly think this way; it's something that started up this past year.
The Series S continues to outpace the X tho. So, there is a customer that this system caters to that wouldn't be buying an X. Maybe if absolutely forced, I guess. It's hard to say. But the main plus for the S if you are a consumer is price point and it's not like PS5 has dropped in price with one tier of specs. So, what we'd have there is an Xbox and Playstation going head-to-head with comparable performance and the same price point.
I don't see a world where that would have ever been better for Xbox console sales.
EDIT: I'll put it another way. We seem to know from December sales that Xbox in the US market has about a 20% value proposition problem. Series X will sell quite well at $400. But, to make that box from go and forego the Series S/X approach, you are coming in quite a bit weaker than the Playstation 5. And that is also a scenario that I don't think would have been better for Xbox console sales.
Personally I think they would have been better off selling a single discless $400 SKU and then heavily discounting it. But I mean, I guess it depends what they want out of their user base.
Very happy to see Unicorn Overlord doing so well. Rebirth seems to be doing pretty well too despite the doomsaying.