My point exactly. Selling consoles is largely irrelevant to them.
We have information that Starfield cost them at least $200 million to make. Marketing might have doubled that cost.
Given that expense, does it seem likely that Microsoft would be happy for the game to have fallen to the 14th best seller one month after release? Doubtful.
Given that expense, does it seem likely that Microsoft would be happy for the game to have fallen to the 14th best seller one month after release? Doubtful.
I mean Xbox revenue is going to exceed Sony because MS just bought on of the biggest publishers in the world. They are only going to be under Tencent at this point. That has little to do with how the Xbox is selling since a great deal of their revenue will be coming from Mobile, PC and Sony themselves.
I mean, as long as they continue to sell consoles, ppl will talk about and debate about it.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Can we stop with this? Hardware is key to driving Game Pass subs (which they've missed pretty projections hugely in the past year or two).
Starfield dropped to #14 in its second month and Xbox is getting outsold by a 7 year old Switch right now
How are these numbers good lol
Then why make.... anything exclusive? Why not sell Bethesda games on PS5?
I mean we were getting platitudes like this about the game. I don't see how not to view this game as anything else but expecting it being a big hit.
Those are great numbers and the Switch is a beast, how are they bad?
YTD it is ranked #9 and that excludes add-on content like the Premium Add-Ons purchased for early access on game pass. Seems fine to me.
PS5 and XBS hardware sales LTD compared to their last gen
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Well yes, that's what happens when you acquire the largest third party publisher in addition to having previously acquired another large third party publisher. It helps that clearly the Xbox division isn't funding these acquisitions either and it's MS as a whole so they're not taking a hit that way either.
I reject your realities and substitute my own.
Those publishers are Xbox now though, so it's all the same. The reason MS bought them is for the money that's generated.
Over the top hyperboles like this, didn't do the game any favors.
That's the biggest Spider-Man movie by A LOT iirc, and the 10th movie for Spidey. Mario did a decent debut outselling every other movie prior of that I think, not sure if it will grow from that but who knows:).(… Now that I think about that that's the second movie for Mario lol)
But yeah, back to games even if it seems Mario is outselling Spider-Man in Europe and Asia right now i don't think it will close the 700k gap for the rest of the year WW l and 0% in US.
Spider-Man is the biggest Sony IP while 2d Mario is maybe the 7th for Nintendo.
But That will be fun to follow!:)
Regardless we win as both did fantastic and we will be getting more of them.
They aren't, whatever wishful thinking may be going on. Being a console maker or platform holder (such as steam) means you get cut of third party sales, dlc, microtransactions etc. These are all lost when you lose your platform.
This is such a massive backtrack on Starfield. The PR was that it was the biggest Bethesda launch.
View: https://x.com/bethesdastudios/status/1704246639970369954?s=46
Starfield is still 9th on YTD sales while being in Gamepass. It's 9th in most played. The only other single player only game in top played is Like A Dragon at 26. The console sales aren't beating the market lead but there was no expectation even by MS of that happening.
As much as it is a good estimate for marketing costs similar to movies, the marketing was probably not anywhere near $200 million.
I agree, SF is most likely doing fine and a profitable game and there is nothing to suggest otherwise. It is also likely that MS wanted the game to be significantly better than fine. Otherwise you would not use verbiage like, "one of the most important rpgs ever made."
People were absolutely expecting XS to beat XB1 in the traditional peak year of sales.
What's the source for these figures? Are they projected from Circana data / Matt's tweets? If so, this looks pretty dire for Xbox hardware.
well...is kind of a conundrum for Xbox really, not as easy as "they care" or "they dont care"
is not irrelevant, buuuut they're playing the LONG game within the console market, Microsoft is probably thinking about the next years not in the current sea, COD as an exclusive at some point, couple of new IPs that can rival Sony and Nintendo huge stuff, and even Gamepass dominating subscription services.
they wont abandon hardware but i dont think even they expect to move the needle without something with the impact of a BOTW.
If they expected Starfield to be that...yeah, thats unlucky because will a success, it wasnt like...an EVENT, but is not like is their last chance.
PS5 and Series consoles are literally going in the opposite direction.
Yes, that is the choice Microsoft made to offset pure sales for a mix of pure sales and Game Pass subscribers playing the game. Bethesda's first new IP in 25 years was a big attraction to the game. Elden Ring was bigger than Dark Souls 3.
Let's not forget..The GameCube and OG XBOX had no shortage of great 1st party games( ok mainly the gamecube but the Xbox still had Halo 2 and a few others) ...yet they never took off because the competition was so strong.
They aren't even trying in so many countries still while PS and Nintendo are becoming more entrenched.
in the hardware side...even if after so many years they finally had something at that BOTW level( which I wouldn't bet on).. people would either skip it or play on PC gamepass as opposed to buying a Xbox console.
It sure would appear so and considering now is when consoles is suppose to peak, I do worry for the Series S and X consoles. I think Sony haven't got everything right with the PS5 era doing so far and big 1st party developers on their part not releasing a new game for the system, you'd think the gap might only get bigger really.
Damn this is rough.
So PlayStation pretty much went up 10% while Xbox went down 10%.
They're literally going in the opposite direction.
With Insomniac developing it, it's sure to do well.
I can't believe once upon a time some of us thought Sucker Punch was making the 2018 game, and were like...why....when it was revealed to be Insomniac, lol.
Im excited to see that as well. Been too long since we had either a good X-Men or Wolvie game.
Number in YTD is meaningless. MK1 outsold it in US and WB said MK1 sold 3m worldwide. So Starfield is below that in US.
Yeah those where crazy time lol, but SP was working on something just as great.
Yeah I never got a change to play origins would love to see it on the store one day.
Haha who would have thought that simple reveal when looking back at it will lead to all of this now.
OG Xbox were different times, this day and age even with the huge hit of the One, the Xbox brand is at least recognizable.
but i agree, is gonna get significantly harder as time goes on, it will definetly be interesting if they can develop THAT game.
