Between Cloud and Zack in terms of their personality, design, character, powers, etc who comes out on top for you.
Cloud:
Zack:
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Cloud or Zack. Who do you like more?
- Thread starter PhoenixAKG
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I might have liked Zack more if I had played Crisis Core when it came out, but as it is Cloud is the loser that I adore
Zack is designed to be more likable, no question about it.
But Cloud is a far more complex character and has a sublime development arc (Advent Children doesn't count), so he gets my vote.
But Cloud is a far more complex character and has a sublime development arc (Advent Children doesn't count), so he gets my vote.
Cloud.
I love Zack, but there's a dychotomy with him for me: he's an actual character mostly thanks to the Compilation, which I found incredibly awful, no exception. His biggest claim to fame, Crisis Core, too, both in execution and what it changes and introduces.
That said, he's an incredibly charming dude, despite the bullshit he has to endure (or maybe because of that, his reactions to the stupid shit happening around him are golden).
I love Zack, but there's a dychotomy with him for me: he's an actual character mostly thanks to the Compilation, which I found incredibly awful, no exception. His biggest claim to fame, Crisis Core, too, both in execution and what it changes and introduces.
That said, he's an incredibly charming dude, despite the bullshit he has to endure (or maybe because of that, his reactions to the stupid shit happening around him are golden).
It's refreshing to see Zack on the bottom. People usually think of him being on top rather than Cloud but I believe they can work both ways.
Remake Cloud > Zack > OG Cloud
I've always liked both characters but preferred Zack to Cloud up until the remake. I like what they're doing with Cloud in the remake. Maybe it's just because it's fully voiced or something I'm not sure, but Cloud's on top for me.
I've always liked both characters but preferred Zack to Cloud up until the remake. I like what they're doing with Cloud in the remake. Maybe it's just because it's fully voiced or something I'm not sure, but Cloud's on top for me.
I only know Zack from the Crisis Core trailer released the other day and hate him already. Cloud is ok.
Cloud.
He was a relatively complex character for the late 90s and they've done a pretty good job updating him in Remake.
He also taught me the valuable lesson to always do the right thing and make sure you get paid for it.
He was a relatively complex character for the late 90s and they've done a pretty good job updating him in Remake.
He also taught me the valuable lesson to always do the right thing and make sure you get paid for it.
Zack is just a straightfordward badass, which is rather bland in videogames, we always play as cool guys. Cloud is refreshing and his ark is very interesting, I think, so Cloud wins for me.
Cloud.
I'm surprised so many people think OG Cloud and remake Cloud are all that different. Seems like the same character to me.
I'm surprised so many people think OG Cloud and remake Cloud are all that different. Seems like the same character to me.
OG Cloud > Zack > Compilation Cloud
OG cloud is a good well rounded character
Zack is a fun, if a bit slight and occasionally annoying, dude.
Compilation cloud is a oversimplification of the original character.
Edit: FF7R cloud is hard to judge as it's only part of his original arc.
OG cloud is a good well rounded character
Zack is a fun, if a bit slight and occasionally annoying, dude.
Compilation cloud is a oversimplification of the original character.
Edit: FF7R cloud is hard to judge as it's only part of his original arc.
I think this is entirely fair to say, yeah. Zack is at his core a more likeable person but all of the content based around him is staggeringly incompetent in execution due to bad writing.
Yeah, only difference between OG Cloud and Remake Cloud is that FFVII takes a lot longer to reveal that the badass persona is just a facade, whereas Remake is much more upfront about him being traumatised and struggling with intimacy.
I just finished FF7 (original) for the first time and its funny how Zack became a thing.
He is just a shitty model-swap of Cloud, that has like 3 lines of dialogue and barely features in the game at all.
He is just a shitty model-swap of Cloud, that has like 3 lines of dialogue and barely features in the game at all.
Cloud. Zack has a whiny ass voice lmao.
Also my 15 year old self hated Zack because he was Aeris' real boyfriend and you playing as Cloud was the third wheel.
Also my 15 year old self hated Zack because he was Aeris' real boyfriend and you playing as Cloud was the third wheel.
Cloud's character development over the course of the original game is absolutely phenomenal. Even with the lousy localization, his gradual transition from "I'm so cool, I'm a SOLDIER and I don't give a damn about any of you" to a surprisingly kind and empathetic man is really well done. He's a guy with a lot of deeply repressed trauma, and when finally able to reflect on who he actually is versus who he believed he was, he winds up maturing into one of the most compelling protagonists in Final Fantasy. He heals through his trauma in a way that's both appropriate for the setting, and yet is surprisingly easy to connect to and empathize with.
I haven't seen Advent Children, and I consider myself a better person for it.
I haven't seen Advent Children, and I consider myself a better person for it.
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I was way more invested in Zack's character journey than Cloud's, so Zack.
Truly. AC completely undid all of Cloud's character development.