CNN sues President Trump and top White House aides for barring Jim Acosta
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If you restrict press passes expressly to coerce newsrooms to give you favorable coverage, you are restricting free speech as a government entity.
At least, I think that's the argument.
They can't discriminate for any reason they want. They're clearly singling our CNN for political views. Id say CNNis likely to win.
I'm not saying anything has backfired or not, but they aren't doing as well as people may think.
Basic Cable Top 10: October 2018 (Prime Time)
- Fox News – 2,829,000
- ESPN – 2,698,000
- TBS – 2,487,000
- MSNBC – 1,575,000
- FS1 – 1,339,000
- USA – 1,168,000
- Hallmark Channel – 1,158,000
- HGTV – 1,120,000
- CNN – 931,000
- TNT – 911,000
- Fox News – 1,685,000
- ESPN – 964,000
- MSNBC – 909,000
- Nickelodeon – 766,000
- TBS – 760,000
- Hallmark Channel – 690,000
- CNN – 689,000
- HGTV – 656,000
- Investigation Discovery – 639,000
- USA – 576,000
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Fox, ESPN and TBS as the top 3 tells me all I need to know about the US lol.
You may as well strip out the non-news channels there, for purpose of this discussion. Also it would be helpful to compare with the numbers of say 2015. AFAIK, Fox has always been way out on top, and I'd have thought CNN would be doing worse than those numbers you show, considering how many of his dumb cult members buy his bs about "fake news".
Doesn't matter. At this point they could abolish the free press and his supporters would celebrate it.
I can agree with that.
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In 2015
CNN
- Primetime (Mon-Sun): 712,000 Total Viewers / 235,000 A25-54
- Total Day (Mon-Sun): 490,000 Total Viewers / 149,000 A25-54
Thanks for the data. Wow so CNN is up from 490K daily in 2015 to 689K now. I did not expect that. I guess his cult members were never watching it back then either. How was Fox doing at the same time in 2015?
I asked for 2015 because it was before the whole "fake news" smearing of the network by POTUS, which appears to have influenced many people in the US.
The ratings for 2015 (Nielsen Live + Same Day data):
Fox News Dec 2015
- Primetime (Mon-Sun): 1,789,000 Total Viewers / 339,000 A25-54
- Total Day (Mon-Sun): 1,080,000 Total Viewers / 207,000 A25-54
...Fucking insanity.
But yeah, Fox News watchers have disliked CNN for decades.
No problem. It was a good question.
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OT: CNN should absolutely sue.
Good. Everyone should sue for everything they can, bury Trump and his enablers in legal woes until he's dead. Not until he's out of office, dead.
3 of the top 5 all carried significant sports coverage. The other two were Fox News and MSNBC.
So what exactly does this tell you about the US? That people like baseball?
I would imagine that this is an issue that the court is going to have to determine. The White House can't get away with violating the 1st Amendment just because they manufacture a lie to cover up the true reason. So CNN will probably have to argue the case that their press pass was revoked because of their coverage and that the officially stated reason that Acosta assaulted the reporter doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
The top 1 is FOX News, a right wing propaganda channel and a very obvious one at that.
American people like baseball, racism and Trump sounds more like an appropriate generalization.
They yet again change their story, while accusing anyone else of "grandstanding". Those hypocrites. So was it "grandstanding" when the WH posted an Infowars video and falsely accused him of attacking a woman?
I haven't looked at the demographics so I could be way off here, but there are probably a few factors to consider, and yes I realize I'm responding to your generality with my own:
1. Fox's demo presumably skews older? Those people tend to be more conservative, and are watching more TV.
2. Younger people are watching YouTube and playing Fortnite, not watching Fox or football.
3. The rising number of hispanics may be watching more Spanish language channels.
4. The #1 network Fox has a daily viewer count of 1% of the US population.
What I'm saying is, it's a lot more diverse than those TV rankings might suggest.
One of the main reasons Fox is number 1 is that it's pretty much the only right wing channel. The left is split all over the place since there are options abound.
Even if we bump up Trump's base and give him 50% of the population, that's 50% of the country watching a single channel versus the other 50% choosing among CNN/MSNBC/CBS/CSPAN etc. Obviously individual channel viewership is going to be lower on that side.
The only actual left leaning network is NBC. Cnn/cspan/cbs/ABC are all politically neutral. It's just Republicans have moved so far to the right that the non partisan networks, which report on crazy things like "facts", are now considered to be liberal
I think this just says more about Fox News watchers vs. Cord Cutters really.
Agree.
At this point, ratings are for out of touch old people. I watch a fair amount of CNN, but I watch it all on YouTube.
Sherrill v. H Knight
This decision pretty much serves as a template for a CNN complaint in the DC Circuit.
https://openjurist.org/569/f2d/124/sherrill-v-h-knight
Most judges don't like Constitutional fuckery, regardless of their political leanings.
Honestly, being seen as weak. Imagine the following:
Acosta: Trump is AFRAID to take my questions. He only ignores me because he knows he can't answer.
Good. Don't really see much chance of this succeeding, but definitely way more chance than if they'd gone with defamation.
Factually, yeah.. but not to the right they aren't. As you've said, in their view, anyone who isn't them are liberals.