She features on several podcasts from Slate, has always come across as credible when I've heard her.
Congress Releases Barr's summary of the Mueller Report (SEE STAFF POST)
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She features on several podcasts from Slate, has always come across as credible when I've heard her.
Yep. Fucking vote. I don't wanna hear about how "so-and-so didn't win the Dem primary so I'm skipping the general election" bullshit, but that's way too optimistic haha
Just because you see someone calling for AOC doesn't mean everyone is pushing for AOC. Me personally I don't see anyone running for president on the Dems side that has the charisma or balls to really challenge Donald Trump. He's done so so much dumb shit and it just gets swept under the rug. No one has pushed the fact that during the time Trump was running for President he was working on a lucrative deal with the very same people attacking a US election while at the same time publicly lying to the american people that he had no business dealings in Russia.
You're right. I mean, Trump was unelectable in 2016, and we all saw how
She said the summary was super damaging to Trump a few hours ago.
She has zero credibility.
Doesn't it say the report doesn't exonerate him?
Anyway, I too believe Trump is mostly gonna get re-elected but NOT because of this whatever it turns out to be, but because Bernie is definitely not winning the nomination and the "bros" with the help of bots/GOP?/russian trolls? are already attacking and vilifying everyone not named bernie.
Anyway, I too believe Trump is mostly gonna get re-elected but NOT because of this whatever it turns out to be, but because Bernie is definitely not winning the nomination and the "bros" with the help of bots/GOP?/russian trolls? are already attacking and vilifying everyone not named bernie.
This part will be interesting:. The Revenge Tour. Which, like everything else he does, will fire up his base but won't help him otherwise.
If what people say is true and his base never cared about this, hasn't moved the needle an inch, then yah I guess outrage from Dems could fuel 2020.
But they CANNOT get their shit together. Arent there already like 40 Dem hopefuls, fighting each other for the top spot?
We need one person in front and unfortunately it may have to be whoever has the most appeal, not the most qualified. Offtopic, sorry.
Barr is probably getting scheduled for questioning as we speak, and I really hope he doesnt get to bury the full report.
Oh and tons of Rep congressmen going "this is a disgrace, stop asking questions!"
But they CANNOT get their shit together. Arent there already like 40 Dem hopefuls, fighting each other for the top spot?
We need one person in front and unfortunately it may have to be whoever has the most appeal, not the most qualified. Offtopic, sorry.
Barr is probably getting scheduled for questioning as we speak, and I really hope he doesnt get to bury the full report.
Oh and tons of Rep congressmen going "this is a disgrace, stop asking questions!"
I disagree, there are a lot of minorities who get shit on by the choices that straight white America makes and they don't deserve all the fallout.
I saw the 'no collusion' coming at least from Trump's side of things, but it's hard to believe that Mueller did not think that either Don Jr. taking that meeting in Trump Tower specifically for getting dirt on Hillary Clinton + Manafort sharing private campaign data with Kilminik qualified as event attempts to collude. Hopefully the full report sheds more light on his thinking there.
But what I really can't get over is that Mueller did not think Trump admitting he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation or Trump personally dictating a false statement to lie about the purpose of the Trump Tower meeting or Trump repeatedly attacking and threatening multiple FBI officials over the investigation, none of that stuff could be determined to qualify as obstruction of justice. Fucking hell man, how much more blatant does it need to be? I'm not surprised that Barr, if given the choice of whether it was a crime or not, concluded it wasn't one. Wouldn't be the first time he used his position as AG to help cover up for a president. But even Mueller didn't think it was definitively obstruction? Just unreal.
Nixon was fucking right: if the president does it, it's not illegal.
But what I really can't get over is that Mueller did not think Trump admitting he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation or Trump personally dictating a false statement to lie about the purpose of the Trump Tower meeting or Trump repeatedly attacking and threatening multiple FBI officials over the investigation, none of that stuff could be determined to qualify as obstruction of justice. Fucking hell man, how much more blatant does it need to be? I'm not surprised that Barr, if given the choice of whether it was a crime or not, concluded it wasn't one. Wouldn't be the first time he used his position as AG to help cover up for a president. But even Mueller didn't think it was definitively obstruction? Just unreal.
Nixon was fucking right: if the president does it, it's not illegal.
If Trump wins in 2020 it's because incumbent presidents tend to win re-election, particularly when the economy is good. Not because of three unrelated things you shitted out here into a pattern.
I think most of us on Era will vote, so we're really just preaching to the choir. It's the other dumbfucks in this country that gives me great concern.
Incorrect. Her source said the report was very damaging, but that Barr's summary would not be representative. Then, after it dropped and that was exactly the case, her source reaffirmed that the full report is much worse.
No, she said the report was super damaging and specifically cautioned *against* putting faith into Barr's summary.
Republicans also said the Nunes memo proved that FISA warrants on Carter Page were granted off the back of the Steele dossier, and when we got the Nunes memo, it literally said the opposite, so I'm gonna wait for the Mueller report proper.
They aren't right.
Hilary was a vulnerable, unloved candidate who had multiple never ending "scandals", was in the middle of an FBI investigation with a last minute blow from James Comey, interference from foreign governments, decades of smears, and made serious campaign mistakes but still won the popular vote. Trump is less popular today than he was in 2016, losing a lot of ground in rural middle-American especially, with states like Wisconsin polling like they will flip. Florida actually has a million+ new potential voters, mostly minority and left leaning, re-enfranchised.
Any candidate the Dems will put up of the major players here should walk Donald Trump, but if it would definitely help if the Bernie bros in particular don't get as shitty about another candidate as they did about HRC.
Right now everyone is.
I mean lots of hysteria and reactions in this thread are 100% the same as Woods'.
Maybe ask yourselves if you're ok if you are as hysteric as James Woods right now.
This basically gives him a shield against every attack that will be levied at him in the next election. He's spent the last several months going on and on about the witch hunt against him and this completely backs that up. The dems went in so hard on this and it blew up in their faces.
Any time someone attacks him for something he's done or said he can simply say "Fake news! It's all a smear campaign against me! You all remember the Mueller investigation!" and people will eat it up. There is no way this is not a massive win for Trump and his republican buddies.
Brought this up earlier in the thread but I'm still curious how Cohen's testimony on Don Jr.'s and Trump himself's knowledge of Roger Stone's actions with Wikileaks play into all of this seeing as how Stone hasn't had a hearing yet. Is Cohen embellishing the truth? Is his testimony weak? Did Stone and Wikileaks have no interactions with Russian agents?
idk, it seems pretty fathomable to me. we don't know if the full report is "nothing happened" or "there were concerning actions but we cannot establish beyond a reasonable doubt that they were part of a knowing criminal conspiracy" or something in between. we still don't know wtf the polling data manafort handed over even was or why he did it, but if they don't know what became of the polling data and manafort says he was just trying to impress his paymasters/convince them Trump was gonna win so they should give him money for being a conduit to the president, well, that's not gonna be enough proof.
This don't know why people are listening to a Trump stooge for confirmation on what was in the Mueller report.
Right, despite the fact Bernie "bros" came out in force and voted for Hillary in much larger numbers than Hillary voters voted for Obama. Keep blaming them...
Most likely Trump was aware of the activity of Flynn/Gates/Stone/etc but didn't provide explicit instructions, making it very hard to nail him down on anything conclusive, especially if WikiLeaks was used as an intermediary and they weren't working directly with Russia. From Cohen's testimony it sounds like Trump operates like a mob boss who never gives explicit instructions of a crime but knows his cronies know what he means. From all the smoke I'm still assuming there is something there, but there's just no proof conclusive enough to take down a sitting president.
Emptywheel put some of her thoughts on Barr conclusion into longer writing, snippet:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2019/03/...n-back-flips-to-avoid-arresting-donald-trump/
Post those tweets please? I've only seen where she says Mueller's report it super damaging, and then predicts that Barr's report will be spin, but still bad. And it literally was, because it literally says it does not exonerate the president. Nobody gives a fuck about that part but it's still there. Unless you can provide the tweet where she says Barr's report will also be super damaging, she's looking like she got it right, but if she did say that then yeah, not good.
So if this is the case, there's no reason the whole report shouldn't be out in the open, no?
If they don't release it in full, this is shady as fuck.
If they don't release it in full, this is shady as fuck.
James Woods is a complete nut who I believe has to be self aware.. he's like if Andy Dick and Nick Cage had a baby and that baby was somehow older than them.
This is what she said about the summary. Not sure its her who has zero credibility.
So what, Christopher Steele, an esteemed MI6 agent with literally no motive to do so, just fabricated his entire incredibly detailed report on the Trump campaign's collision with Russia which has already had many aspects of it corroborated? Yeah, sorry, I don't buy that
The fact that we know so little still, and I haven't heard anything from.McConnel and Graham and Nunez, leads to me believe that it's going to be bad once we see it.
Dems will subpoena it and works with the intelligence agencies to release it publicly, or will just leak it if Republicans don't want to play along
Dems will subpoena it and works with the intelligence agencies to release it publicly, or will just leak it if Republicans don't want to play along
This is rather astute, but even then it won't lead to Trump being indicted, meaning to the liberals who were really into following this shit it would be all for naught anyway. It might be best to leave this as a background note and start shoring up support and excitement for 2020.
Also a good things for Dems, they haven't been running on the Russia Investigation.
They been running on stuff like health care, environment, etc.
They been running on stuff like health care, environment, etc.
People not taking Donald Trump series as a threat in 2020 are going to be in for a rude awakening. Hilary Clinton might have been weak but we see how the system works to protect the republicans. Donald Trump literally had a video of him saying he could sexually assault women because he had money and it didn't even matter. Trump still doesn't even say that Russia tried to interfere with the 2016 elections. Also Democrats going so hard on the abortion issue is going to hurt them in the future. While some of those people claim to hate Trumps rhetoric (I don't believe this for a second) they still see it as a binary choice. Chose the GOP candidate get a supreme court seat, possible ban abortion, etc. Or chose the Democratic candidate.
The definition of conspiracy in the letter states cooperation or coordination does not have to be explicit but can be tacit. Wouldn't surprise me if Cohen's was embellishing at this point.
NBC News
Senate Majority Leader McConnell: "The Special Counsel's conclusions confirm the President's account that there was no effort by his campaign to conspire or coordinate with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election."
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1109924822694412288
Senate Majority Leader McConnell: "The Special Counsel's conclusions confirm the President's account that there was no effort by his campaign to conspire or coordinate with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election."
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1109924822694412288
