I think that was the intention, but I mean it's right here.
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Corrida Colloseum Mafia |OT| My Heart in SHAMBLES, trying to make it out in One Piece.
- Thread starter SalvaPot
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it is 🧐
I had a good laugh when I realized how my role and the one I got compare. Even shared that laugh with Salva in my role pM.
Wouldn't that bring heat on scum turm if town Zipped got lunched?
I dunno to me those scenarios just seem like too much work or risk for too little gain.
That is true, and because flavor doesn't get swapped we don't know what turm's character is.
More affirmation that I am a very uncreative man lol
literally the first thing I did, hence my "half a role, was something missing" comment.
it's far more dangerous if our roles got split up and some people got more and others got less. Knowing that everyone went 1 for 1 is still a huge knowledge gain for town
That's always a risk when scum makes a claim that gets a townie lunche
It's another thing to considering when looking at Zipped and Turms later. I do agree with most people that both probably aren't scum together, I'm just leaning right now that both are town until I see otherwise.
Yeah, I basically agree that that would be a good scenario for mafia, as I said a bit later in my post. Just thinking it through.
Thanks for your kind words about my avatar! It's Mr. Crow from the Rusty Lake/Cube Escape games.
I agree with everything you've said here too (hopefully we'll disagree soon XD). People should share info about the roles they made if they think it would help town, but they should think it through carefully first. An organized mass claim of created roles is a bad idea, but nobody really seems to be seriously advocating for it at this point.
The false premise I'm referring to is the idea that the roles were not swapped randomly accross all players without regard to alignment. You seemed to be pushing this idea in some of your posts such as this one:
So to be clear, I'm not disagreeing with you that town should try to work together, build circles of trust, share information when safe, and so on. I'm totally on board with that! But I want us to not fall into the trap of thinking that a player who received a town role is automatically town, or vice versa. I view this as being more about accuracy than caution.
My text got deleted D:<
Anyways "lunched. However, turm more often than not gets lunched so I'm sure scum hum would be willing to take that chance.
How about the invisible pressure on Turmoil then? Scum Turm creates a not-so-clearly-town role and panics a bit after Zipped essentially calls him out. It could be a thing but I can't see how that is distinguishable from town Turm creating a not-so-clearly-town role and deciding to claim it for the well-being of town after Zipped calls him out. If anything, I'd expect most people to respond with silence when panicking and that wasn't what Turm did.
Flavor wasn't swapped though, right? Only powers were swapped.
🤔 So as has been stated serval times now, everyone keeps the flavor, alignment, and role name of the PM they made, but the power is new.
I'm now realizing that flipped PMs will be very informational because they should include the role name of the power that player made. While completely original powers or ones with different names won't be as useful, we can use these role names to figure out who made what power with out having to claim everything lol
So like say if I flip, the player with my role will learn i made it. That doesn't really help them that much because they will already know my alignment, but at the very least they can know their role is legit lol.
I'm now realizing that flipped PMs will be very informational because they should include the role name of the power that player made. While completely original powers or ones with different names won't be as useful, we can use these role names to figure out who made what power with out having to claim everything lol
So like say if I flip, the player with my role will learn i made it. That doesn't really help them that much because they will already know my alignment, but at the very least they can know their role is legit lol.
You should've asked Salva to do it for you and wait for him to laugh and say no.
should also point out that for more straight forward powers, we can learn what power that person made which is definitely super informational. However, the person who got the role should probably keep silent unless the maker was scum. We don't want scum knowing who got the power if they didn't.
That confused me too, ngl. Unless the PR itself has Sanji's abilities so it's easily recognizable.
I think the only cases where flavor would be swapped are if like you said they are attached to the power like an explanation flavor wise how it works.
It's like that one role in that one game we made together Vere that is coming out :D :D :D *forever shilling my mafia games*
I'm not sure this would necessarily work, because the connection between the role name and power might not be obvious. Like, suppose I made the role of "vanilla town" (I didn't, but for this hypothetical). I gave it the role name of Bob, a random One Piece character. When I die and flip with the role name Bob, the person who has the power of "vanilla town" won't necessarily make the connection. I guess there might be some role/power combinations where they could make a guess, but it would always be a guess.
True. We'll just have to wait until we have our first Flip to find out and even then, only the one who got the role may have a clue what it means lol.
I'm mostly just basing it off of how my Role PM was given to me.
Did people receive the name of their new power below their flavor and role name?
#Stayshilling
But seriously, turms said his fluff was Basil Hawkins so I have no idea what Zipped meant there.
OP
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DOOOOON~
Announcer: Oh! Seems like someone already died! Even before the fight started! Let's look at his Wanted Poster, shall we?
Announcer: What a great battle! Let the fighting continue!
Announcer: Oh! Seems like someone already died! Even before the fight started! Let's look at his Wanted Poster, shall we?
Announcer: What a great battle! Let the fighting continue!
I have the horrifying thought that this announcement implies that we're not going to see a role pm when people die, just the power type..
lol. Guess we'll find out when we lunch someone...
this is where I pull a Turm and joke we should just turbo someone. :D :D :D
The panda thing just seems too weird to not be a power, but I guess we'll see when someone gets flipped.
She's saying that because the sample PM was a basic bitch one, all of them will be. Or are you referring to Ambulances post?
Yep, Ambulance. Although I can see where Hawthorn is coming from, it's nothing until our first flip.
Gonna be out for a bit to play some ps5. will be back later, dont set the house on fire, etc. etc.
Might be why I find this iffy. It feels like a lot of words to say little.
I agree on this not being a w/w thing but my conclusion on them is the opposite from you lol
Bit meta but since Zipped is expecting a new baby any day now the best option would be to go boom when he is here instead of when he may have to leave. At least that's how I'd play it if I was a bomb. :x
Hmm, there's a couple things that bother me about this post and I can't totally put my finger on it. I don't think scum would come around this early and plan out a scenario like this? And you don't even agree with it? So I'm not sure why it was brought up? Kinda feels like noise. :x
Might be why I find this iffy. It feels like a lot of words to say little.
Isn't Turm technically being proactive here by claiming the role and giving everyone a heads up? He could've said nothing.
I agree on this not being a w/w thing but my conclusion on them is the opposite from you lol
yes
It's been so long since I've been in a mafia game, I keep having to remind myself I can't edit my typos ><
Luckily I always remember before I do. :blobghost:
I miss being a game running ;w;
Luckily I always remember before I do. :blobghost:
I miss being a game running ;w;
Same, I thought someone died lol.
OK, now im gone.
I may have been a little too literal in responding to Ambulance's question. My thought process was this: my gut reaction was to say that turmoil was probably town, because it didn't seem that mafia would have a reason to claim the created role like he did. But I wanted to "fact check" my reaction by trying to think of scenarios in which mafia might have done what he did. Then I posted my thoughts so that I could get info from the group on whether the scenarios I thought of were plausible.
Now that zipped has said that actually he thinks it might be a mafia-type role, and turmoil said that he claimed it because zipped called him out with his vote, I'm not sure what to think, there are too many layers. I wouldn't vote for either right now.
I'm going to ask you to go back and re-read what I said to you previously. Don't get hung up on guesses I made. They're guesses. You'll note I'm not pushing those. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, it's not a big deal, and intra-faction swapping is not even the key part of the strategy I'm proposing. So please: go back and re-read what I'm actually proposing, because I laid it out.
idk why you are so aggressively opposed to teamwork but keep being salty, I guess
Vote Zeke!
it was totally unclear lol, I also thought someone died!
Okay, I'm gonna go play some vidya:
Early townreads, may change:
Zipped, even more now because he was "solving" while roles were being made, apparently. There was one moment when I thought there was something weird up with Zipped but overall he's exuding Big Town Energy
Sawneeks, because she's jumping in and getting involved and not scumtelling
AllThingsPurple, it was one post but big towntell
Less sure:
Small possible for Launch but I'm not sure yet, Launch too slippery
Fran is probably town, but we'll see
Ambulance, and it's a meta read, but I would guess I have the best meta read on him so I feel okay about it so far
Early scumreads:
Zeke, only truffleshuffling so far and he's not wrong about that being his scumtell (not doing it) so it looks like he's pushing to do it while people are talking about real stuff. He's not weighing in, but he's present.
Not killing today, probably:
turmoil - that role is NAI but unless there's a reason I'm not voting to kill turmoil d1 just in general (though I've said this before and then voted him lol so we'll see)
Hawthorn - actual read pending but I would like to give her a chance to actually play if she's town
Early townreads, may change:
Zipped, even more now because he was "solving" while roles were being made, apparently. There was one moment when I thought there was something weird up with Zipped but overall he's exuding Big Town Energy
Sawneeks, because she's jumping in and getting involved and not scumtelling
AllThingsPurple, it was one post but big towntell
Less sure:
Small possible for Launch but I'm not sure yet, Launch too slippery
Fran is probably town, but we'll see
Ambulance, and it's a meta read, but I would guess I have the best meta read on him so I feel okay about it so far
Early scumreads:
Zeke, only truffleshuffling so far and he's not wrong about that being his scumtell (not doing it) so it looks like he's pushing to do it while people are talking about real stuff. He's not weighing in, but he's present.
Not killing today, probably:
turmoil - that role is NAI but unless there's a reason I'm not voting to kill turmoil d1 just in general (though I've said this before and then voted him lol so we'll see)
Hawthorn - actual read pending but I would like to give her a chance to actually play if she's town
I know its only our second game playing together but town reading me off one post is becoming a thing with you lol
I agree with Monkey about both Zipped and Neeks. I would put Monkey in my town lean pile as well along with Turms. Turms making a role like that is weird, but was upfront about the info and claimed in a way that told town the stuff we should know while leaving out info that Zipped shouldn't tell us.
Could be Turms just getting in front of it because Zipped would obviously tell town eventually, but I'm pretty sure Turms is just town
Could be Turms just getting in front of it because Zipped would obviously tell town eventually, but I'm pretty sure Turms is just town