Easy to follow your advice. The first TLOU is a good rental IMO and easily the most overrated game by the community.
IMO because people get upset if I don't mention it.
IMO because people get upset if I don't mention it.
Yes, clearly the only non vain, non hypocritical, non selfish action one can possibly take here is relent, call their congressman and spend $59.99. You've sure figured it out.
edit: Thinking on it this warrants a fuller response. I'm not sure what political fantasy world you operate in but I live in America, where corporate interests and lobbying set the agenda 95% of the time in this industry (and most industries sadly). If you want to talk about a futile response that realistically leads nowhere then certainly privately contact your representatives on this issue and spend $60. And hey, while you're at it remind them we're still letting kids gamble too while spending another $60 on your annual shooter or sports title of choice.
The reality is that legistation in the public interest here almost always follows public outcry, not the reverse, and mechanisms like social media or the press are core drivers of that. There isn't one singular route here and your continued dismissal of doing anything that at all could involve spurring any degree of public interest, plus your complete degradation of personal moral choice, I find totally insulting and transparent.
Double esasy as apparently you don't have a PS4, as you were gloating that you will play Ghost of Tsushima at a friend's, and then port begging for it on Steam.Easy to follow your advice. The first TLOU is a good rental IMO and easily the most overrated game by the community.
IMO because people get upset if I don't mention it.
I was suspecting this thread might be a productive conversation but posts like these and others I have read have really made this thread a shit show...Awww poor fucking developers they have to work overtime to make a video game. Be a fucking adult and make my damn game lol
Double esasy as apparently you don't have a PS4, as you were gloating that you will play Ghost of Tsushima at a friend's, and then port begging for it on Steam.
Just one shining example among many of how these threads tend to be just a repository for shit posting from people who didn't give a shit in the first place, and wouldn't play the game anyway.
Double esasy as apparently you don't have a PS4, as you were gloating that you will play Ghost of Tsushima at a friend's, and then port begging for it on Steam.
Just one shining example among many of how these threads tend to be just a repository for shit posting from people who didn't give a shit in the first place, and wouldn't play the game anyway.
Haha, pretty much! "Would've bought it for a friend" reply says it all, but when given an actual solution like some posters mentioned they are nowhere to be seen.Double esasy as apparently you don't have a PS4, as you were gloating that you will play Ghost of Tsushima at a friend's, and then port begging for it on Steam.
Just one shining example among many of how these threads tend to be just a repository for shit posting from people who didn't give a shit in the first place, and wouldn't play the game anyway.
As someone who has crunched postproduction to make films, I can tell you that despite how physically tolling it was, I never once for one minute regretted the amount of time I put into any project. And some of those projects paid me considerably less than what Naughty Dog pays its employees.
Yes crunch is difficult, but fuck do I care about the art I make.
so I guess Cory posted this in response to all this going on. Kind of disappointed he didn't really take a stance, but especially disappointed he liked this tweet reply, wtf?
Oh, they absolutely give a shit. They just don't have access to the game, so they have to find a way to convince themselves they aren't interested.Just one shining example among many of how these threads tend to be just a repository for shit posting from people who didn't give a shit in the first place, and wouldn't play the game anyway.
I have a feeling this will be like the Modern Warfare 2 boycott, once all the reviews come out...After the kotaku article and the recent developer testimonials on Twitter detailing the work environment at Naughty Dog studios I can not in good conscenince support their toxic work practices.
No product, no matter how great, is worth sacrificing worker health and well being.
It is clear that things need to change in much of the industryin regards to crunch culture and so I will be carefully considering where my money is spent in order to support developers that do not rely oncrunch and avoid supporting ones who do.
Last of Us 2 will be the first of many games I am sure I will need to boycott. This will be my main deciding factor in purchasing games going forward.
If you, like me, see this as unacceptable I urge you to join me in not supporting this practice with your money.
#CrunchNoMore
please feel free to post studios and games that we know were not made with crunch so we know what we can support. I will do my best to update the OP with the names of studios that are safe to support
the following are studios we know do not rely on crunch:
- Insomniac Games
- Rare
- Valve
- Media Molecule
- Bithell Games
- DICE
- Klei Entertainment
- Iron Galaxy Studios
- Remedy (unconfirmed)
Studios/publishers who are making notable progress on crunch and actively working towards eliminating it:
- Bungie
This sums up the fanboy mentality perfectly! They dont have access to something so they do their best to convince themselves the game was shit either way so...Oh, they absolutely give a shit. They just don't have access to the game, so they have to find a way to convince themselves they aren't interested.
Edit: This is specifically directed at people like the one Elandyll was responding to. Not the people who are actually boycotting due to the reports of crunch.
I'd like to see the people boycotting this, also skip Cyberpunk 2077. I mean, surely this is because they are against crunch and NOT because they are pushing an agenda against Naughty Dog, I am sure...The most funny part of this thread are the people who say "Yes, I'll boycott TLoU2" and then say "I don't even think TLoU is a great game and don't like it".
If you don't like a thing, not buying it doesn't mean boycott in my opinion. It's like someone hates burgers and say "I'll boycott McDonald's because they use poor animals to make those burgers". But he continues to eat pizzas and hotdogs!
I'd like to see the people boycotting this, also skip Cyberpunk 2077. I mean, surely this is because they are against crunch and NOT because they are pushing an agenda against Naughty Dog, I am sure...
the following are studios we know do not rely on crunch:
- Insomniac Games
- Rare
- Valve
- Media Molecule
- Bithell Games
- DICE
- Klei Entertainment
- Iron Galaxy Studios
- Remedy (unconfirmed)
Studios/publishers who are making notable progress on crunch and actively working towards eliminating it:
- Bungie
I wonder if a large number of people played it on used or lent from a friend copies, that would send a message. Sony absolutely can track who has booted it and got trophies from the game vs sales and see how much demand there is for the game?
I understand the need for action, but gamers boycotting products isn't going to do anything other than potentially harm the bottom line of the developers you're speaking out for.
They won't. To boycott crunch would be to boycott a great deal of videogames. Most developers crunch, in some shape or form, even if not to the extremes that Bioware and ND do.
This is why boycotting games is in my opinion a foolish practice, though as a consumer you're free to spend (or not spend) your money as and how you like. I just think there are better ways to go about making change.
so I guess Cory posted this in response to all this going on. Kind of disappointed he didn't really take a stance, but especially disappointed he liked this tweet reply, wtf?
The only ban on this page is a troll writing what you said doesn't get actioned. The previous page it's a whataboutsim post that the staff explicitly stated not to do.I love that simple constructive questioning gets labelled as antagonizing and results in bans but trolls can be completely off topic and jump in and say they weren't going to play it anyway because it's an overrated pile of garbage.
Just love it.
They already got paid and judging by other reports, they will soon leave and be replaced anyways.
This.Nah. It won't change shit. Would rather buy the game so I contribute to these developers hopefully getting a bonus or something.